Men Vs Women Vs UFO's VS Serial Kilers (Dahmer) & Crazy Reels! 2026-10-07 19:52

12:55Jay DyerWomen in current year are not okay I'm

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14:42Jay DyerAlright. What's up? Welcome. Y'all ready for some insane cultural commentaries some serial killers?

14:52Jay DyerSome UFOs. It all comes together one grand conspiracy tonight on

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16:01Jay DyerDo the

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16:10Jay Dyerthey're canceling. They're trying to cancel people for hunting. Did you see that?

16:14Jay DyerWoman that has the number one song now is canceled because she she hunted. And when you see all this insanity the

16:24Jay Dyerleft,

16:25Jay DyerI think it just really shows you that people are losing it, dude. They just can't they're detaching from reality. And why are they detaching from reality? Because the Internet is driving people insane, I think, is a big part of it. Social media is driving people insane. On top of that, hardly anyone talks about this element which I think was part and parcel of the... On August twenty... The Lindsey stuff is pharmaceuticals. A massive

17:05Jay Dyerportion of the population is on pharmaceuticals. And so what's happening is, basically, people are being anesthetized, drugged, and possessed, basically, I think is what's going on. Because if you look at what the behavior of this serial killers was,

17:27Jay Dyerdecades ago. All of that behavior is being normalized and accepted and approved by the establishment, by the system on purpose. For many reasons. If we think back to the John Marks text,

17:44Jay Dyeron MK Ultra that we've covered, That early text noted that they had studied the effects of MK Ultra or LSD, and LSD had the effect of, in some actually, in quite a few cases, inducing dissociative states. And so the big pharmaceutical companies, I think, are applying a lot of these techniques and principles not just to the masses in order to, you know,

18:12Jay Dyerget them into some technocratic system, but also in case I think, to perhaps induce dissociative main... Manic states They wanna induce mania. And we have come across some of the elite white paper documents that discuss inducing mania and psychosis in the population to essentially fracture the the psyche. And then these insane

18:39Jay Dyercelebrity folk are a big part of pushing this on the population. Even though we see the celebrity people going crazy, literally, they're all rushing now to become Laura Loomers. Right? You got Megan Fox over here who's like, no. I don't wanna be the chick. I'm going to drink blood with machine gun Kelly. Live forever, and turn into Laura Loomer.

19:05Jay DyerWhat?

19:07Jay DyerAnd, no, I'm not joking. If you remember,

19:10Jay Dyershe said that she wanted to drink blood,

19:16Jay Dyeror that she was drinking blood, with machine gun goober and then it was, like, a super sex ritual or, like, whatever. Is this super sexy for just a little bit of blood?

19:31Megan FoxBut, yes, we do consume

19:34Megan FoxBut, yes, we do consume each other's blood on occasion for ritual purposes.

19:40Jay DyerIt's so sexy. It's so hot. It's so just to suck on some blood or whatever. Only.

19:48Megan FoxIt is used for a reason and it is controlled where it's like, let's shed a few drops of blood and each drink it. He's much more haphazard and hectic and chaotic where he's willing to just like cut his chest open with broken glass and be like, take my soul. Let me bleed on you. That happens. It

20:07Jay Dyerplease.

20:09Jay DyerDude, these people are absolutely insane lunatics. And

20:14Jay Dyersee this with the people that get into the occult.

20:17Jay DyerRight? Whether it's wealthy eccentric weirdos or trailer trash people that become satanic priests. These are people who buy into some lie that they're going to obtain power. Now keep that in mind because that's gonna be a huge factor in Jeffrey, but don't get don't Jeffrey Dahmer, in many of the interviews, will state that I actually got into the occult and into this stuff because I wanted to obtain apotheosis, a kind of

20:49Jay Dyerenergized demonic power. And he thought that the consuming of people and the rituals and so forth would give him that power.

21:00Jay DyerAnd he said, I'm basing it on exorcist three with Brad Dorf as the Gemini killer. But what happens in all these cases and including Megan Fox, as you can see,

21:14Jay DyerThe occult is just a giant scam, dude.

21:16Jay DyerIt's a giant scam on the earthly level and the spiritual level. Like, you don't get any of the stuff that you're promised. Right?

21:25Jay DyerDid drinking machine gun Kelly's blood?

21:29Jay DyerHelp her at all?

21:31Jay DyerWhy is she turning into Laura Loomer? Is that what it means to live forever? I I become Laura Loomer?

21:41Jay DyerAnd it's the same with Alistair Crowley. Remember Crowley died a broke, drug addicted,

21:46Jay Dyerfiend alone in some crack house.

21:54Jay DyerSo everything that the system offers

21:58Jay Dyeris a lie. And then people fall for it. What's what's crazy is that people keep falling for it. Right?

22:04Jay DyerLike we know it's a lie, but then they keep falling for it.

22:12Jay DyerNow this is interesting because we were just talking about Philip Arthur and we're gonna do episode since it's a spooktober. I'm focusing on serial killers for Spooktober, and we're gonna do an episode Philip Arthur Thompson, the octopus adjacent CIA contract assassin serial killer. And it just turned out... It turns out that, Whitney Webb is doing more

22:37Jay Dyerresearch and posts on the origins of not just Palam tier, but the tech state, and that she's tying that into Danny Casolaro's untimely demise. And, of course, he was one of the journalists that was on a live that's called the octopus conspiracy, so we'll talk about that. But

22:59Jay Dyerthis also popped up on my feed today, which didn't surprise me because it's in it's in Quigley. Listen to the Quigley lectures, you would have already known this, that Mussolini worked with British intelligence. And he was awarded $12,000 a week as a World War one asset for British intelligence. Guess who else was an asset British intelligence in World War one? Alistair Crowley, secret agent six six six. I'm not not familiar with this guy, but he says,

23:30Jay Dyerthe fascist leader in Italy was actually a British agent. Fascism was

23:35Jay Dyercreated out of London, simultaneous new parties and movements across Europe. Oh, if you watch Peaky Blinders, you saw that with Oswald Mosley. Right? They have... Make him a big part of that

23:48Jay Dyerstory.

23:52Jay DyerBritain and her agent... Britain had her agents everywhere this was British involvement in the fascist takeover Spain, Portugal. Hitler was then recruited in 1913, spent a year in Britain with his British in laws.

24:03Jay DyerSee the book by Bridget Hitler.

24:07Jay DyerThis is the astonishing angulophilia he had, and this is why

24:12Jay Dyeryou know, you get all those chapters in Tragedy and Hopefulness. Thus, we had Dunkirk,

24:18Jay DyerUltimately, this was to make war. It was actually to destroy in a war and then to destroy Russia. So this is half correct. But as Quigley says, the purpose of the two world wars was to destroy

24:30Jay Dyerthe Austro Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire.

24:35Jay DyerAnd so point being with all these

24:40Jay Dyerthese individuals, whether it's Mussolini or Crowley, they're not who they are

24:48Jay Dyersaid to be in mainline Normie history. You dig into history, as you get deeper, you find out that the real story is not at all what. Normies are told. I think Quigley even talks about British intelligence helping Mussolini leave, right, at the end of the war. Like, they flew him out. And Berces also has a history doing that. I think they also... They flew out the Ayatollah as well. So interesting.

25:18Jay DyerNow

25:21Jay Dyerwe're seeing then the rise in the population of this totally narcissistic

25:28Jay Dyerpsychopathic, sociopathic, psychotic behavior. The dark triad traits. People think that

25:33Jay Dyerwhat the pickup artist used to talk about, what the dark triad traits about how to get a girl and all that. No. Actually, that's what we need to survive in society is we all need to become total psychopaths. And so... And I don't necessarily believe all... These might be fake stories. I don't know. I haven't looked into these. But

25:51Jay Dyerwhether they're real stories or whether they are media push psyops, there was this rash of stories of moms killing their children. On a living. Here's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, In the last

26:10Jay Dyercouple weeks.

26:12Jay DyerAnd the... This... Yeah. This is the last couple weeks. What is the explanation for this? I think there's many things going on, and we're gonna talk about this today. There's the toxic social media culture, which spreads the virus of weird evil thoughts. And people see TikTok clips and they see reels. And they think they're getting the full story. And then they are immediately siding with some team much like with politics.

26:44Jay DyerAre you a leftist? Are you a democrat or republican?

26:48Jay DyerAre you for the the bros of the frat party, or are you for the three zero four chick making up stories? Right? And in most of these cases, many of these cases, there's probably... I don't mean with the moms and the kids. I don't know those cases. But usually in a lot of these SEX cases, there's a little bit of shared guilt. But also, there's FBI statistics, which that doesn't mean it's true. I'm saying as an example that a lot of these rape allegations, I think they somewhere to up to... Upwards of 70% are falsified and exaggerated. And remember when it was going around TikTok all

27:22Jay Dyerthese things last year, all of these feminists saying it's time to literally kill men. They were saying, I don't live men. If you're at the coffee shop and you're a barista, poison the men secretly. You remember this? This was all over. They were going viral.

27:40Jay DyerAnd we had the... Two years ago, the TikTok trend of the girls talking about unaliving as a ritual. Remember that?

27:50Jay DyerAll

27:50Jay Dyerof these insane TikTok trends,

27:55Jay DyerAnd these TikTok trends

27:58Jay Dyermean, obviously, the older you are, the more

28:00Jay DyerI think, discernment you have. But the younger you are, the more that these people... These kids are brainwashed for this stuff.

28:10Jay DyerAnd so there's a symbiotic feedback loop where these people are getting programmed with this stuff. And then they're becoming

28:19Jay Dyerserial killers. We're basically getting serial killer society. They... And I think the establishment wants to induce mass serial killer psychosis in society for the purpose of

28:37Jay Dyerchaos and upheaval.

28:39Jay DyerRight? Problem reaction solution. The more chaos, the more problems, the more the system comes with the establishment solutions that they wanted the whole time. So how do you get to end goal, cause the problem, offer your end goal as the solution to that problem? Very basic psychological warfare. And so we're gonna talk about some of the serial killers, but also

29:03Jay DyerI see this going around, and I don't know if this was something that somebody did it as a joke because I got people from another profile

29:10Jay Dyersending this, asking if this was me.

29:14Jay DyerI mean, yes, it is, if... To answer your question. Well,

29:18Speaker 3ladies, those of you watching, welcome to your future. Sean Roach, Sean with a w. Well, I'm a catch. I'm six'three and a half, and I've been underweight my whole life. So if things come up in a relationship, this was romantic. This was not romantic. I operate from a place of trying to be very romantic, so that's not gonna ever be my fault. Well, lady

29:39Jay DyerYeah. So people found my old dating profile, and they're sharing it around. Yes, it is me. I went under the pseudonym of Sean with a w. That was me back in about 1999, if you're wondering.

29:53Jay DyerShout out to all them Internet sleuths digging out my old profiles. And

30:01Jay Dyerthis also is relevant because we're gonna be looking at some of the complaints society tonight. People saying that they're also noticing

30:09Jay Dyerpeople are becoming not just pod peoples, not just demonically possessed goblins, but pod people, serial possessed, serial killer possessed goblin people.

30:25Megan FoxOkay.

30:33Jay DyerAnd I also... We're gonna go full skids tonight. I wanna tie it into the recent so called sightings. We're gonna take a look at the sightings.

30:42Jay DyerBut let's watch this video first to see

30:46Jay Dyerwhat is happening with people. Why are they going crazy?

30:49Jay DyerThis was a

30:50Jay Dyerinteresting... It's interesting to hear people's assessments of what they're noticing with other people. And we will, of course, also be ripping on these people and busting on them, making funny funny comments. Busting on them. Everybody loves it when I said that because they're like, do you not know what that means?

31:09Jay DyerWell, when I was in high school, you'd always say, man, that dude's busting. Jokes on your mom, dude. So it doesn't mean I am releasing my seminal fluids to me. To me, it does not mean anything to do with seminal fluids. All of you 17 perverts in the audience might think that, but that's a you problem.

31:29Megan FoxA few people

31:30Speaker 4to consider other people when I go out in public. It's exhausting.

31:33Jay DyerNothing feels the same anymore in the world with I do have to agree though that like this this kind of thing where people are preaching at me on TikTok in reels, I do not want to hear you preaching at me with burdens. Like, that is immediate way for me to tune out. But

31:53Speaker 3look.

31:53Jay DyerAre we going into a pod person scenario? That's why I keep putting up the pod people stuff.

31:59Jay DyerLike, I think we're going into pod person world And then the people, they come out of the pod, the replacement synthoids they're gonna be serial killers. They're creating

32:11Jay Dyerthey want everybody to be Jeffrey.

32:14Jay DyerThat's

32:14Jay Dyerwhat I'm

32:15Jay Dyersaying.

32:16Jay DyerBecause the elite themselves... Remember the Epstein stuff?

32:20Jay DyerIt's basically Hannibal Lecter Jeff Stein Mcgeff... I mean, Jeff Stein Mcgeffrey is Jeffrey Dom... Dahmsteen.

32:31Jay DyerJeffrey Domstein. Jeff Stein McDomer. Dommer McEpstein. That's where we're at, dude. We're going full remember Buffalo Bill, he was mentally ill in the movie.

32:47Jay DyerRight?

32:50Jay DyerBecause he... Not just because he puts the lotion on it itself,

32:57Jay DyerAnd I've I've never even like, is he talking about lotion on the little puppy?

33:01Jay DyerIs it

33:01Jay Dyerthen he low... He, like, lowers a puppy down, doesn't he?

33:06Jay DyerI've never even understood what he's talking about. Is he talking about in third person that the lotion gets put on himself by his altar because he's like MPD?

33:18Jay DyerOr is he talking about the Clarisse in the pit puts the lotion on herself or does Clarisse in the pit put the lotion on the little puppy? I've never understood what is supposed to be happening in this scene. Right? Yeah. Here it is.

33:37Jay DyerSo so so

33:41Jay Dyerhere is Clarie... Is it Clarice down there?

33:47Jay DyerYeah. No. It's this other chick.

33:49Jay DyerOkay. So he's like, here, I'm gonna play, let's play

33:57Jay DyerI don't know what's going on. What's going on here? I just... Oh, gross, dude.

34:06Jay DyerRemember this little puppy.

34:08Jay DyerK. So we got a a poodle.

34:12Jay DyerHe's playing dress up.

34:15Jay DyerRight? The poodle's pulling... I don't know what's going on.

34:22Jay DyerYou don't know if this poodles a villain, or is it a hell

34:25Jay Dyerout?

34:25Jay DyerRight? This poodle was trained in the school of Buffalo Bill psychopathy. So I think the poodle's also a villain. Right?

34:36Jay DyerThere's a b movie with poodles that are killers.

34:39Jay DyerWhat's that movie, Jamie?

34:42Jay DyerDo you remember?

34:43Jay DyerJamie?

34:45Jay DyerShe can't hear me.

34:49Jay DyerI mean, look at this thing. This thing is vicious, dude. That's a killer. What's that eighties movie that we're gonna watch with the poodles that are that are psychopaths, serial killers?

35:02Jay DyerJamie?

35:03Jay DyerWhat's the movie with

35:04Jay Dyerthe serial killer poodles? This is what we need to be watching. I'm trying to teach you boys how to walk a fine line between being a psychopathic serial killer and finding a lady. That's what we're trying to talk about today. I'm trying to give you all some data advice. Don't go for Megan Vampire Fox, Laura

35:21Jay DyerLoomers. Jamie?

35:23Jay DyerThe serial killer poodles.

35:30Jay DyerCan you not hear me?

35:33Jay DyerJamie. You talk about every time we scroll pass pass it on Amazon. Oh, the the meme face? Yes.

35:43Speaker 5Oh.

35:46Jay DyerOh. Just realized that's the poodle from silence of the lambs that's walking over, looking down in the hole. And who's putting the lotion on who? The poodle put the on himself or on the girl or on Buffalo Bill? The girl has to put it on herself. Why?

36:01Speaker 5To make her skin soft

36:02Megan Foxso he can wear it.

36:04Jay DyerOh. I've never understood that. I'm like,

36:08Jay Dyerwho... What's the poodle doing with the lotion? How is the poodle involved? I know what you're talking about because when

36:14Speaker 5you see you see a bad boy, and he's

36:16Jay Dyernot... Evil killer poodles.

36:18Speaker 3Yes.

36:18Jay DyerThere's a movie about evil

36:20Speaker 3killer poo...

36:21Jay DyerNo. It's a eighties movie called something else. Right? I think it's not just poodles. There's, like, other... There's other killer pets. Little killer tortoises. I still

36:31Speaker 5wanna watch slugs.

36:37Jay DyerThere is an eighties movie. It's a lesser known eighties b b where basically all the animals at the pet shelter

36:46Jay Dyerstart attacking

36:52Jay DyerKiller

36:55Jay DyerNo. It's in the eighties, dude. We need to be watching these kinds of movies.

37:00Jay DyerIf you guys

37:02Jay Dyerwould get your crap together, we could have fun over here on this channel.

37:09Jay DyerIt's not chud.

37:11Jay DyerOh, shit. Now I'll never find it. Boneyard. That's it. Boneyard, dude. Boneyard, Jamie. Now she doesn't even care. Jamie love... Rubs the lotions on yourself, so Jamie rubs the lotion on itself.

37:29Jay DyerBoneyard. Here we go. Look at this.

37:33Jay Dyer$19.91.

37:35Jay DyerOkay. Yes.

37:38Jay DyerLook at that thing. See?

37:42Jay DyerIt rubs the lotions on itself. It's multiple personality. So there's a

37:50Jay Dyerokay. So it's a morgue. It's a serial killer poodle at a morgue. Great idea for a movie. I wanna remake this movie. And the the creatures are coming back to life. They got a fake, Andrew McCarthy.

38:08Jay DyerLook at that thing. Because it's got Laura Loomer in it. It's got Megan Fox right there, starring Megan Fox. And remember that black preacher for... That ghetto black preacher that cusses when he preaches? It's got him in it.

38:24Jay DyerThis this movie is so so... Look at this. Look. There it is.

38:27Jay DyerSee? What if the whole time it's not even Buffalo Bill or Hannibal Lecter that is the real killer? It's the poodle running all that shit, dude. The poodle is the handler.

38:41Jay DyerSee? Right there. Boneyard is actually the key to decoding silence of the limbs.

38:50Jay DyerAnd I just now understood from Jamie why it puts the lotions on his skins

38:55Jay Dyerso that he would have soft skin to wear. I mean... But whole reason we got on this was because Buffalo Bill considered an

39:03Jay Dyerinsane psycho in 1991 that's now normalized.

39:10Jay DyerSo I can tell you very clearly

39:12Jay Dyerwhat's happening with society. Literally, everybody has been

39:15Jay Dyerdriven insane. And people think that this is all just... Well, I guess it's cause of the the incompetent liberals that run... No. No. No. It's by design. They are by design driving everyone insane. Listen. The key... How we're gonna rebuild with Xantium? No poodles allowed.

39:38Jay DyerRule number one.

39:39Jay DyerWe're gonna go full Muslim. We're gonna go half Muslim.

39:44Jay DyerRight? Dogs are allowed, not serial killer poodles. That's Byxantium bylaws number one. By the way, if you guys are having fun tonight,

39:57Jay DyerI aim to have fun. I don't know

39:58Jay Dyerabout you guys. I aim to have fun.

40:00Jay DyerI mean, it's a stream called women versus men versus UFOs versus serial killers. Clearly,

40:06Jay Dyerthat's fun. The whole society has by design been big pharma drug. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That is a big part of this. Then you throw into this big witch's brew. So you got a little bit of SSRIs in the brew.

40:23Jay DyerYou got promotion of leftism, insanity, furries, LARPing, fantasy in the in the the witch's cauldron. You've got

40:36Jay DyerMarxism, socialism, and the witch's cauldron.

40:40Jay DyerAtheism, nihilism. You've got feminism in the witch's cauldron.

40:45Jay DyerThe promotion of narcissistic the narcissist, the psychopaths, narcissistic psychopathic insanity on social media. Getting people into the idea that

40:57Jay Dyerthe new economy is you becoming an influencer and doing whatever you have to do to get your fifteen minutes of viral fame, whether that's harassing homeless people or punching white people or whatever it is that people think they're supposed to be doing. Prank, crazy pranks on homeless people, just weird degenerate evil stuff. They want a society of Jeffrey Bedonka k? They want Jeffrey Epstein handling Jeffrey. Jeffrey Dahmer. K?

41:32Jay DyerThat's the goal.

41:39Jay DyerAnd I did wanna comment briefly on Scully. Because agent Scully plays an interesting role in this. Yes. You heard me correctly. How does agent Scully play a role in this? Well, I don't I don't... I can't prove this, but she is in some new big Matt not Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, baffleck movie. Okay? And

42:11Jay Dyershe has come out now as full

42:15Jay Dyerpansexual. No. Yes. Panfluidsexual.

42:21Jay DyerAnd then you said, well, what is that? What is that? She's just bisexual. Or she has women tendencies.

42:30Jay DyerBut she intentionally says, no. No. No. Pansexual.

42:34Jay DyerWhich... Does that mean you're also attracted to other things? Like like outside of men and women, all the other, like, what is that? Creatures? You're attracted attracted to serial killer poodles? Other creatures.

42:53Jay DyerNow I've lost my Scully video I saved. Here it is.

43:02Jay DyerOh, you know what? I'm afraid if I play this now because

43:09Jay Dyerbecause this will

43:13Jay Dyerteam Coco, they usually they usually like,

43:17Jay Dyertake their copyright stuff seriously. So let me find Yeah. Here we go. Headlines. Now why does this matter? Because she is now gonna be in big high profile profile movies. I guarantee you they were saying, okay. We need you to step up the propaganda. And we... Jamie and I watched Hannibal, and we're gonna be doing an analysis

43:53Jay Dyerof, some serial killer films.

43:57Jay DyerAs part of Spooktober. And in season three, if you don't know, this is so crazy. In season three of Hannibal,

44:08Jay DyerScully... And she's kind of actually like Scully. Right? I mean, I think she's some kind of psych person, but she... She's working with the FBI. So it's sort of like Scully's back with

44:20Jay Dyerand then she falls for Hannibal. She's like Hannibal's psycho sex babe.

44:31Jay DyerBut I think she might even be, like, bisexual in the movie. I don't remember... In the TV show. I can't remember. Season three, she's like... Anyway, she's like she's like full serial killer. And we we had all this rash of TV shows. Right? Dexter and Hannibal. Right? Oh, the serial killer. The serial killers are everywhere. There are actually not that many serial killers, but the movies and the media, it's they make you think that, oh, there's, like, literally half of your town is, like, serial killers. But serial killers are on the rise. There are more and more of them now.

45:08Jay DyerAnd I have the theory that

45:11Jay Dyerthey've... Not just the Dave McGowan's thesis of program to kill, which we're gonna be getting into some Dahmer Stuff. I Found A Really Interesting Dahmer Documentary. Somebody Took All The Lowell field information, which was building on Dave's stuff, and put it into a massive super dumber documentary.

45:30Jay DyerWhich goes way beyond previous... A lot of new information. New stuff I have not seen before. New occult things that Dahmer was involved in that I was not aware of. So we're gonna be looking at that in a moment. We're gonna be going deep We're gonna have to be acting silly tonight because we got a lot of crazy materials to try get through. And you guys are on this insane journey. We're also gonna look at some of weird new UFO stuff that's popped up, which I do not believe in aliens. But

46:01Jay Dyerwill take a look at it because it's interesting. So here's, here's, agent Scully. Now if you remember in the show, one of the themes of x Files was Scully could never find a dude, which is weird because she's the most normie person ever.

46:16Jay DyerThere's nothing weird about Scully in the show. She's the skeptic She's the super turbo normie NPC until the later seasons when she, like, can't deny the fiftieth time she's seen a giant UFO flying around. Or a googly goblin that she's interacted with. So finally, she comes around, but she's the turbo normie, but she could never find a dude. Although she kinda hooks up with Mulder, I guess. Kinda they have baby William, which is the worst storyline. I hate the baby William storyline. It's so stupid.

46:47Jay DyerAnyway, basically, scholar just can't get laid for, like, ten years. And she tries really hard, and she can't find the dude. But she's a slay queen.

46:55Jay DyerShe's a professional FBI woman who also, by the way, has a degree in physics, and she's a doctor, and she wrote her thesis on Einstein. If you didn't know. But now she's come out as Skittles. Publicly describing herself Or half Skittles. Pansexual in a new interview.

47:13Jay DyerGiving a more specific label to a conversation about her sexuality, that she has discussed for years.

47:19Jay DyerCandace is about to be all about the x fouls. Okay. So I'm I'm about to watch x files. Guys, Candace over here looking at that scully booty, baby.

47:28Jay DyerFrom millions of fans,

47:30Jay DyerAnderson will always be remembered as Dana Scully from the x files.

47:34Jay DyerThe intelligent FBI agent who became one of television's most iconic female characters. But away from the screen,

47:41Jay DyerAnderson has spent years speaking openly about sexuality, relationships, and

47:45Jay DyerI... So brave, dude. So brave.

47:49Jay DyerShe's so brave to openly speak about sex, do you know how oppressive that is? You get oppressed so hard. It's so brave to

48:00Jay Dyerspeak out like those identity.

48:02Jay DyerHer latest interview with the Australian, Anderson described herself as pan, explaining that she means pansexual, attracted to people across genders. The revelation quickly attracted international attention because

48:15Jay Dyershe has discussed relationships with women before, this appears to be the clearest label she has publicly embraced.

48:22Jay DyerAnd now she's in some big Ben Affleck movie. So I know.

48:29Jay DyerMy thought is that these people do this to signify, like, please, I will you know, I will promote... We've been saying this forever. I'll promote your next agenda. Just put me in the next big thing. Right? Because these are also a bunch of narcissistic psychopathic people. Especially the pop star entertainment people.

48:50Jay DyerRight?

48:52Jay DyerNow that's interesting because in the third season of Hannibal,

48:58Jay Dyershe kind of... It kinda mirrors, like, her character in the third season. Kind of in weird ways like

49:08Jay Dyerthe show Nashville mirrored intentionally, according to the writers, the life of Hayden Panettiere. Anyway, so we gotten way off into this crazy land. But gonna get into this. But why is everybody being turned into serial killers?

49:23Jay DyerPeople

49:23Megan Foxwith events, things that I'm supposed to be excited about or things that are supposed to bring me joy. Or I don't like people. I've come to that conclusion now. The older I get, I've realized that most people are dickheads.

49:39Speaker 3People have changed. Right? Let's say it. Let's state the obvious. Times are just different than they were back then.

49:45Speaker 3Let's talk about it. You

49:48Jay Dyerknow,

49:49Speaker 4we live in a day and age where it feels like you're so much better off being alone.

49:57Jay DyerWell, they want everybody to be alone, so I'm not sure this is the right course of action. Although, I know that if I was single, it would be it would be tough. It would be a challenge. You know what I mean? So yeah. No. You guys are right in this. I mean, they don't just want

50:19Jay Dyerto push

50:21Jay DyerThey want all forms of psychopathy and sanity It's kakistocracy's design to turn the public into a bunch of goblins, dude. The elite want people to be serial killers like the elite. Is it the elite or serial We did a whole podcast episode, fourth hour of Lord Voldemort on the elite are just serial killers. They're just more wealthy versions of Jeffrey. Jeff Dahmer was

50:52Jay Dyerliving in the damn ghetto doing his stuff. Right? He's just a brokey. Don't Jeffrey was just a brokey serial killer. But he ain't nothing compared to, like, a Henry Kissinger.

51:06Jay DyerBut they're basically the same.

51:08Jay DyerHey, Jamie.

51:12Speaker 4People are so unpredictable anymore. A friend today

51:17Speaker 4can be an enemy tomorrow. Look outside. Look around.

51:24Speaker 4This world is off.

51:26Speaker 4Ever since COVID,

51:29Speaker 4it feels like there's been, like, an energy shift.

51:32Speaker 4In our world. In our...

51:34Jay DyerG shift in our world, in our

51:37Jay DyerI don't know about her vibes, but a lot of people are noting that this seems to be a post coup hyped up thing. Right? It's a lot more

51:48Jay Dyerintense in terms of the pod people scenario that we're seeing. Post coup, And I don't know if that's just because of

52:00Jay Dyerthe psychological damage and trauma that people went through with Kuf, or is it other toxic sort of factors that have synthoidized pod peopleized people.

52:14Jay DyerOur society, and a lot of people have changed and not in a good way.

52:20Jay DyerI'm honestly getting to a point where don't even wanna make new friends be

52:26Jay DyerI also wonder though, like, think these videos are interesting, this style of video. And when I've done a couple of these, But I'm also wondering if people are just copying everybody else's videos where they just say, and it's like a AI script of just saying,

52:40Jay Dyerpeople are different now. Everything is weird. Have you noticed? No one's nice anymore. There's no quality service. Like, they just copying other popular TikTok trends? But this actually does seem to be my experience. Though. You go out in the public, and it's like, you know, it used to be, like, you would think ten years ago, the public got hit with a tard ray. Right? Lord Baltimore would make that joke. Now when you go in public, it's like, we've got pod people, dude. They're mutating into pod

53:10Jay Dyerpeople. Because we live in a day and age where you can't trust anybody anymore. You don't know who truly has your back. You don't know who's going to switch up on you. We live in a

53:23Jay DyerThis, however, I have experienced in the last couple years. It seems like I've seen way more backstabby, weird psycho behavior in even people that I've known for ten years.

53:34Jay DyerThan ever before. So something in the last two years seems to have really flipped to where people are, like, they're becoming weird pod people synthoid serial killer types. I'm not saying they're all serial killers. But with these

53:53Jay Dyeroutbreaks of women, like going after their youths,

53:58Jay DyerAnd we already see that with abortion. Right? I mean, that's already a form serial killing. I mean, if you counted abortions as serial killing, like, we'd already have, a lot of women serial killers. Right? But it's beyond that to where it's now, it's like, no. They're actually just on a living, like, living four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 year which is getting crazy.

54:19Jay DyerNow used to be when you would hear stories like that, ten, fifteen years ago of moms on a living children, like, you know, drowning them or whatever.

54:30Jay DyerPop pop, you know, that kind of stuff. It was because they would have some sort of mental breakdown on SSRIs. But I'm thinking now massive sections of the population

54:44Jay Dyerespecially the women are on all kinds of pills. And this is one of the things that's really annoying about the boomers. Because the boomers just worship the Fox News medical establishment as if it's not completely controlled by big pharma. And that as if the brave new world, soma pharma scenario isn't a massive problem in our society for the last thirty years, because this really started in the nineties when they started pushing Zoloft, Prozac, all the SSRIs in mass.

55:18Jay DyerAnd the boomers are like, I'm just dressed up. A medical system. I trust doctor, you know, take your meds. Remember Jordan... Even Jordan Peterson, take your meds. Miss, take your meds, Jamie. Jamie, take your meds.

55:32Jay DyerIs that Ephes? No.

55:35Jay DyerIt's a new one. Thank you. Appreciate you. She's one of the good ones. Take your meds. I'm taking my meds right now. Taking my meds.

55:55Jay DyerAnyway, I'm rambling, but let's get back to

55:57Jay Dyerwhere everybody wants to be toxic so bad. It's like what has happened to this world?

56:03Jay DyerYou know, People... We're going into a pod person scenario. It's a pod person scenario. I was wondering why I've been vibing with so many of these pod people movies in the last ten years. Is because you guys remember my

56:21Jay Dyerquasi prophetic... I'm not saying I'm literally prophet, but our... My quasi prophetic call in to Lord Voldemort. Right? I put that up on Instagram. Glad I did. Got, like, half a million views. So in 2007, I called in to Lord Voldemort, and we talked about the zombie outbreak scenario. That there would be these biowarfare releases. Okay. And we talked about they were gonna use the plague pandemic scenario in the future. It... That was twenty years ago.

56:52Jay DyerThen we got the coup and all of that. Now they're pushing for a new psyop of the month, the new psyop of the last year. Because if you notice every couple years, they do this. Right? There's a new

57:10Jay Dyerplague

57:12Jay DyerAnd you notice they branded it with pneumonic plague? Right? Because it sounds like the bubonic plague. And so now they're saying it's the squirrel virus.

57:24Jay DyerThat

57:25Jay DyerPutin leaked the squirrel virus, dude. This is the most ridiculous news mainstream news, boomer news title I've ever like, I haven't seen a title like this in, like, ten years. Remember when they were... They had a great one where it was Putin was using squids. Ten years ago, and then they had one. Putin is using,

57:48Jay DyerPokemon Go to infiltrate the West. Now it's the squirrel virus, dude. Remember Peanut?

57:56Jay DyerThe crypto peanut? Dude, I'm schizoassociating now.

58:01Jay DyerPeanut was behind this whole thing. Peanut is Russia colluding with Putin.

58:08Jay DyerHe didn't die. People thought Peanut died They thought he died. There was this cryptocurrency. No. Peanut Peanut didn't die. He was whisked away as an operative of Russian intelligence to work with Putin to craft

58:25Jay Dyerthe squirrel virus. Remember peanut? Y'all don't even care about peanut. Cecil,

58:35Jay Dyerharambe, peanut. Y'all are heartless. Basically, we're all serial killers already because you don't even remember. You guys don't even care about Peanut the squirrel anymore. You've been given an animal... A new animal of the year to care about.

58:53Jay DyerThe one that

58:56Jay Dyerthat country singer killed, Remember Peanut? Just look at Peanut. Oh, he's so cute. He's so harmless with his little cowboy hat. He's playing a role. He's a Soviet illegal, you idiots. He was whisked away in his death by Russian intelligence to work with Putin to craft the World War three bioweapon, the squirrel virus.

59:29Jay DyerBoomers are like, I believe it. I believe it. And Russians got Trump elected. They're working with peanut. They're gonna make a damn bioweapon. We're all gonna become squirrels. We're all gonna become furries. It's the end, the end times.

59:47Megan FoxWill say that that a man in his thirties, I think it's harder than ever to make friends today. I really do. I also do though think that it takes effort to make friendships. Right? You have to put yourself out there and I think that's the problem where most people have is they're afraid to put themselves out there to get a new relationship

1:00:09Jay DyerHow's that go? Have we all forgotten basic principles of friendship? Just making friends, dude. Remember when you're a kid?

1:00:19Jay DyerIt's so easy to make a friend.

1:00:22Jay DyerYou just go to the playground.

1:00:24Jay DyerBoom. You already got three friends. Right?

1:00:28Jay DyerYou got the same Star Wars toy. Your friends automatically. I think we need to return to zak attack. We need to return to a... I mean, Zach Morris was trying to tell us all along.

1:00:49Jay DyerIt's really simple. Friends are friends forever. That's it.

1:01:17Jay DyerSee?

1:01:19Jay DyerDid you even think about

1:01:21Jay Dyerfriends forever?

1:01:23Jay DyerNo? You didn't think about that? The the way that we combat serial killer pod person, bioweapon release that's going is we become friends. Again. We all sing zac attacks friends

1:01:39Jay Dyerforever.

1:01:44Jay DyerLook. There's Candace. See, Candace can be our friend. There's potentiality for even Candace to be our friend again. Whoo. Hitting the notes.

1:02:20Jay DyerSimple solutions. Friends and Bitcoin. That's the solutions that I'm talking about tonight.

1:02:24Megan FoxTo make a new friendship because they don't...

1:02:27Jay DyerYeah. Probably not a good idea to go into showgirls. Right? So we want friends forever except for Kelly going into showgirls. Right? Friends forever.

1:02:41Megan FoxKnow what's gonna happen. Right? They don't want to get too tight I think our world has definitely changed in that regard.

1:02:48Speaker 3I need a COVID documentary that explains psychologically how COVID fucked me up. Like, I need to need Hulu or

1:02:57Jay DyerWe'll take off grandma me mo's glasses first, dog.

1:03:01Jay DyerWhy are you wearing glasses?

1:03:04Speaker 3Netflix to gather all the mental health experts, all the profession Yeah.

1:03:08Jay DyerThe those are the people that run the establishment, dummy. Those are the faces and the voices of the establishment, and they're not gonna help you.

1:03:15Speaker 3Get them in a room. And have them discuss the

1:03:19Megan FoxI mean, I ain't gonna fight it.

1:03:21Megan FoxI definitely think we have a totally different world since COVID happened back in 2020. I mean, you see it in kids these days. I mean, see the kids... My daughter's one of them. My daughter was born in 2020. She was literally born the day like the whole world was falling apart. March 2020, I remember being in the hospital watching CNBC and seeing the stock market crumble because no one knew what was coming. No one knew what was going to happen. And I do think that really messed with a lot of

1:03:46Jay Dyerpeople. Oh, wait. If you guys are having fun, hit like.

1:03:50Jay DyerDo only 200 of you thousand actually like this show? Come on now.

1:03:54Jay DyerY'all are here because you know you have fun. You know you like to joke around with your elder millennial unc. Y'all like it. Show some love now.

1:04:09Jay DyerCome on now. We're all having fun. We're all exposing serial killers in the calergi plan. We're having fun, dude. Come on.

1:04:17Megan FoxAdults and kids It was a very, very strange time that I think will be talked about for hundreds of years from

1:04:24Speaker 5now. Who feels like when you meet new people nowadays, they know... Oh,

1:04:26Jay DyerI've I mean, this... I I think after a couple days, this Russian story is totally fake flag. Totally. It's just purely Western intelligence made up, not even a real thing.

1:04:39Jay DyerI'm hearing that Moscow or Saint Petersburg is not under

1:04:43Jay Dyerlockdown, and this is all coming out of Moscow Times, which is, like, Western intelligence run stuff.

1:04:52Jay DyerSo that would be my guess. I mean, I I don't know anybody in Russia to ask, but you'll notice that Andy Jacobsen who writes all of those Pentagon, DARPA, you know, books, era 51 books, New York Times, you know,

1:05:10Jay Dyergreatest writer ever, whatever nonsense. She wrote this book in July about the Russia virus. The squirrel... She didn't call it squirrel virus, the Russia virus leaking from Siberia.

1:05:28Jay DyerAnd then... Oh, wow.

1:05:31Jay DyerYou must be a prophet. Or is she in touch with Western intelligence and she puts out the future psyops scenarios.

1:05:43Speaker 3Friends forever.

1:05:46Speaker 4Friends forever.

1:05:49Speaker 5No longer possess normal human emotions, and it's terrifying. I'm talking like passion, empathy, remorse. They do not care about anything that you're saying. They are in their own world It's so hard for them to hold on a conversation.

1:06:01Jay DyerThis is true. I think this is true. This is the... But, see, I think people are being debased and engineered to be this way. To control them. People people don't understand that

1:06:16Jay Dyermilitary warfare, psychological warfare, it's not just like psyops and lies. It's also brutalizing the population and making them debasing them.

1:06:26Jay DyerYou debase the population to make them more malleable and controllable.

1:06:33Jay DyerThis makes them much more easy to shuffle them, herd them into the solutions that you had and wanted the whole time.

1:06:43Speaker 5So robotic, things have changed fast and drastically. Who agrees with me? It's actually really scary.

1:06:49Megan FoxWhat do you think? Do you notice that? I... Sometimes I feel I'm on the side of a yes. I agree. I feel like people are just

1:06:56Megan Foxsometimes people don't know how to talk anymore. They don't know how to just have a conversation. That it's it's very strange. But I will also say being in the real estate world of

1:07:05Jay DyerYeah. See, I think the zombie archetype of the two thousand twenty tens is now... It's gonna move into the pod person archetype. The pod person synthoid, serial killer archetype.

1:07:18Jay DyerThat's what we're moving into. The new... The the archetype of this decade

1:07:26Jay Dyeris pod person, dude. Thanks, people.

1:07:29Megan FoxStill have to build relationships. The business still runs on relationships.

1:07:33Jay DyerYes. It is the combination

1:07:36Jay DyerWho said that? Spring Larkin says, it's the combination nanotech gene therapy, psychological warfare. Yeah. And the SSRIs, and it's just a giant witch's breed.

1:07:48Megan FoxSo I think seeing that has kinda helped me a little bit. As far as like seeing that there's still people who want to communicate. But then you think of it as, like, okay. Well, are they communicating because they want something from me? Are they communicating because they want business? Are they communicating because they truly wanna get to know me? That's the

1:08:02Speaker 3hard

1:08:02Jay Dyerpart. Nothing feels the same anymore

1:08:04Speaker 6in a world with people, with events, with things that I'm supposed to be excited about or things that are supposed to bring joy. Going about the world lately in the last few years, things kind of feel like this deflated balloon, anticlimactic, Like, I

1:08:18Jay DyerI think another reason for this is everything being online. So the removal of physical media, I think, is a big part of this. People are overlooking the fact that, like, I don't think we're made to read on Kindles and to read PDFs. I hate it. We're me... We're... Humans are made for whatever reason, to read actual books, actual texts. Right? You're supposed to have that tactile experience because we have bodies. And there was a podcast some years back that father turbo did where they were discussing

1:08:50Jay Dyernot that the Internet's necessarily inherently wrong, but that the whole idea of everything being abstracted kinda removes the bodily components that humans are made to have and to do. You can't have a completely digitized abstraction. Abstracted experience of everything and expect the endorphins and the reactions to be the same. So the Internet kinda flattens everything.

1:09:20Jay DyerEverything becomes essentially flattened out because you're seeing in this stupid infinite scroll, you know, you're seeing chicks, Instagram butts, warfare in The Middle East, You're seeing buildings popping off. You're seeing black people punching white people. You're seeing

1:09:40Jay Dyerthe worst thing I've ever seen in a recent note I'm sure you all saw it because it went viral. Was this insane Asian dude

1:09:53Jay DyerHow can I say this? Spinning his monkey at the airport in front of everyone. And, I mean, spinning. I don't even understand how a person came to

1:10:09Jay Dyerplease themselves by thinking that it will spin spin my monkey in the airport with everybody watching.

1:10:17Jay DyerAnd I'm like, Asian dudes are are crazy, bro.

1:10:21Jay DyerThey're wild. I remember when I was at college when I worked in the library, there would be, like, Asian exchange students. They would come in the library

1:10:30Jay Dyerand they would, like, turn the speakers all the way up, and they would just be watching the craziest prawn you've ever seen. I don't think of professor Zhang but dude was going full helicopter, which I don't even know. Like, how do you even do that? That doesn't make any sense.

1:10:47Jay DyerLike, I'm not... I mean, that was the worst thing I've ever seen on Twitter, hands down. Now I take that back. One time I looked up something, and it... And I got black chicks butts that I was not looking for. Right? I typed in something about one of the... One of these black pop star, like, not sexy red or, like, ice spice. That's what it was. I was looking for... And I'm like, oh my gosh, dude. What is this? Little... So you cut

1:11:18Jay Dyerespecially if we're doing it on stream, you gotta be careful what you... Like, remember that one time we were on stream and we searched gay Roman Catholic priests? Because we were looking for that calendar. And I was like, oops. I shouldn't have put that into Twitter because that's that's gonna pull up more than I was expecting.

1:11:34Speaker 6Feel more excitement or fulfillment or filled up and satisfied by things that I just don't really care about that much anymore. I care more about like simplicity, quiet, peace, valuing more just one on one connections and and love and family and special moments and the people that matter. I think there's an opportunity in this. There's an...

1:11:52Jay DyerNo. I was not looking up ice spice and what's that fat chick that got skinny? Who's the big old booty? The the what's her name? She did the WAP

1:12:06Speaker 4song.

1:12:08Jay DyerWe were looking up degenerate black pop stars.

1:12:12Jay DyerWhat I'm talking about. Not because I'm into black pop. I'm sorry. I'm not. We've already had this conversation. There's only, like, three good looking black women. Look. Vanessa Williams, Holly Berry, and one or two others. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't I just... I don't think Beyonce is like a looking I'm just

1:12:34Speaker 6Trinity in this big deflation, this big destruction, this big big social and moral collapse. This feeling that the world is

1:12:40Jay Dyeremotional. Lizzo. That's what was trying to think of. Lizzo. I just wanna say lizard. David Ike. Lizzo. Cheetah Ori Lizzo. Lizard.

1:12:50Speaker 6And spiritually bankrupt because it it makes some space for the new. It makes some space for something new to be born, but everyone's kind of dipping their foot in and they're kind of awkward, they're kind of nervous. It's like when the music just started playing, and no one's, like, quite gotten out on the dance floor yet. It's in just a whole new world. It's a whole new music and energy.

1:13:09Jay DyerThis guy doesn't strike me as a dude that

1:13:11Jay Dyergets out on the dance floor a lot.

1:13:14Jay DyerI don't know. Those are weird analogies.

1:13:18Speaker 4You know

1:13:18Jay Dyerwhat I mean? Like, people that just don't get out on the dance floor. Well, now if this man got on the dance floor and did the wigs and teen twerk, our new official dance that I showed you guys, I would be impressed.

1:13:30Speaker 6Yeah. You're getting ready to kinda paint that canvas. Don't be deterred by people's

1:13:35Jay DyerAnd really, the only... I'm the only good looking black queen. Is... I mean, seriously, is there another? No.

1:13:43Jay DyerThey're all jealous. So

1:13:45Speaker 6Gordon has or sadness or fear, the people that are grasping onto the old world and in all this angst and taking a longer time to play out their darkness of the soul for their purging of their grief for their whatever, playing old scripts, on a broken record. The world is playing on a broken record a lot. But we're already in a new energy. You can feel that we've already jumped and hopped into a new world. Really, it's just

1:14:02Jay Dyerthe... I don't really get his analogies. They're weird, but

1:14:08Jay Dyerit is... It it... Look. It does seem like everything's different. The last ten years, and if you were around, you know, pre 09/11, like, post big nine event, the world was way different. And then here we are down in, you know, post big koof event. And this shit is just going off the hook. It's just... Reality is unhinged. The metaphysics of reality became unhinged. So maybe CERN is

1:14:40Jay Dyercreating pod people out.

1:14:41Speaker 6D world or people that are maybe slower in that are kinda walking through the mud. They're angry. They're like, don't get this. I don't get this new world. I

1:14:48Speaker 4don't get

1:14:48Speaker 6how to move, how to think, how to act, how to progress. A lot is being thrown at us. There's lot fear, there's a lot of paranoia about,

1:14:54Speaker 4everyone's

1:14:54Speaker 6gonna lose their jobs. Then I would encourage you to embrace it see it as an opportunity and say, hey, I can carve out my own niche. I can carve out my own new skills and new niche niche in this world that we came here for. We came here knowing that this time period that we incarnated into

1:15:10Jay DyerThese are all all... These these kind of dudes talking like this, I always end up saying some Instagram yoga spiritual chick bullshit. What are you talking about?

1:15:19Jay DyerWe came here and incarnated in this... Into this timeline. What talking about? This nonsense.

1:15:25Speaker 6Would be highly transformative and a whole new vibration landscape. So I think it's exciting times and it's okay if no one just going off...

1:15:33Speaker 4This

1:15:34Jay Dyerthis guy's name is Raw Awakening. But listen, when he gets on the dance floor, like, this guy's not afraid to get on the dance floor. He'll do the Roger Rabbit. He'll do the the Bart Simpson. He'll do the... He'll twerk, do the twerk.

1:15:47Speaker 6Your own lane and no one really understands what you're doing because we're all kind of just starting from the scratch, like everything's been blown up and understand how powerful you are. Don't underestimate yourself. Your ability to create new to create new friendships, relationships,

1:16:00Speaker 6and a new life for yourself.

1:16:01Megan FoxI think that's super good and I think he's spot on there because what we're seeing pop up a lot right now is you're seeing like these local communities. Right?

1:16:09Speaker 3Yo, I mean this from the bottom of my heart.

1:16:12Jay DyerYou tell it, girl.

1:16:14Jay DyerThat's a southern girl right there. We need some southern wisdom. I think all of y'all need some southern wisdom. And I'm here to give it to you. Welcome to Southern Wisdom with Jay Dyer. Straight out of West Tennessee. Do y'all want some Southern today? Well, let's talk to our nurse correspondent out in the field amongst the NPC serial killer pod people. Sister, what is your report?

1:16:44Speaker 5I don't care what you say.

1:16:46Jay DyerPeople are different.

1:16:47Jay DyerHell yes. Girl. That's what we're talking about tonight. Everybody's becoming a Jeffrey of a donkey donkey.

1:16:54Speaker 7Since the respiratory virus back in 2020, there were

1:16:58Speaker 3Mhmm.

1:16:59Speaker 7People are not the same. You can argue with me all day long if you want to.

1:17:03Jay DyerGirl, I will argue with you until the the cows come home all day long.

1:17:08Speaker 8I'll argue with you until them fronza boxes are dead empty. I

1:17:12Speaker 7don't care. I'm a nurse. I live through it. I work through it. People are not

1:17:17Speaker 8But, honey, did you make a TikTok video dancing to it? Did you bounce that booty to that song, girl? That's what I wanna know.

1:17:25Speaker 4Same.

1:17:26Speaker 7I'm not exactly sure what if it's PTSD, if they didn't get enough oxygen to their brain. Brain, but people are just not the same as they were back the... Back before that it came. I don't know. I don't know if it's because they were in their house for so long. They just got so used to not dealing with the public. Like I said, if it's because they didn't give enough oxygen to the brain and now they just have problems, like, communicating, but people are rude. They just don't know how to act no more.

1:17:51Jay DyerI need to talk to a sister in the field. Okay? I don't trust white people. I trust my brothers and... I wanna hear some bipoc correspondence from the field. Let's listen to this man.

1:18:03Megan FoxTo get ahead, and I can't stand it.

1:18:05Megan FoxI don't like

1:18:05Speaker 8it. I don't know if it's the generation. I don't know if it's the he I don't know if it's because of what happened in 2020. People are extremely weird now, and that's why you will find me at my house or with a couple people or by myself.

1:18:18Megan FoxThere you have it. I mean, maybe that's the domino effect that's happening. More people that are staying by the themselves and not getting out and not trying to build relationships because, well, hell, you know, people are just different. And they don't wanna deal with...

1:18:29Jay DyerWell, let's see what the sisters are saying.

1:18:32Speaker 9Like, if you are kind to somebody, just out the kindness of your heart, like, you're not pleasing. You're not doing any of that. You're just kind. More than likely, within the next few days or weeks, that person will turn on you. Mhmm.

1:18:48Jay DyerTell her, girl. It is so weird. That's what I've been talking about. Something happened with some kind of betrayal demon got head let... Had got let loose. And in the last year,

1:18:59Jay Dyereverybody just betraying. Beyonce, more like betray.

1:19:05Jay DyerOkay? Everybody

1:19:06Speaker 9just betraying. Here in this world, like, I've never seen anything like this before. Or you just kindly, like,

1:19:13Speaker 7hello.

1:19:13Speaker 9How are you? Just the the the vibe are so off, and it really shows you how people are just getting stranger. People are just getting weirder. People do not have

1:19:25Jay DyerStrangers thing, dude. We talked about it when that show came out. And it ended up being all faking gay. Membership is all about The Stranger's Thing. That was the end of the show. You got you got you got trolled the whole... You watched all these seasons. It ended up being about a stranger's thing. It's all gay, dude.

1:19:43Speaker 9God in their life. People do not fear God, and you can tell by their demeanor. You can tell that these people are actually not at peace with themselves. This message is not for

1:19:54Jay Dyereverybody. Their turning into demon pod people, bro. That's what I'm trying to say. The public is becoming demon pie people, and I'm a show you how they did it. We're gonna look at Jeffrey. Right? Well, the communist talk about the new man. The new man of the future, the new communist man. Nietzsche talked about the Ubermensch. We're gonna show you that the planned Ubermensch of the future is Jeffrey.

1:20:21Speaker 4You

1:20:22Speaker 9are offended right now. It's probably because you're one of those people. So this this is not for you. You. But for the people that understand what I'm saying, this world is getting stranger. And the more genuine you are, the more kind you are, the more real you are is the the more you will be targeted.

1:20:41Speaker 9The more you will be targeted, the more people will just find... They'll just find fault with you. And it's so

1:20:49Jay DyerAlright. Girl, we get it. Right now, let's talk about some of the ladies. What's happening with ladies? How's it affecting... Now we all... We... We've done a lot of talks on the dude, trying to help the dudes out. Trying to help y'all. How do I talk to a girl? What do... Don't talk about spiders.

1:21:06Jay DyerK?

1:21:08Jay DyerNo chick cares about you. Your knowledge of spiders and arachnids.

1:21:17Speaker 8She don't care, dude.

1:21:20Jay DyerAlthough nowadays, girls are so weird. They probably would like that. Probably could spit some mad spider game. Be like, spit mad spider game. Peter Porka.

1:21:36Speaker 4Don't do that.

1:21:37Speaker 5Men are scary. My rights are actively being threatened.

1:21:40Jay DyerWhat the hell is

1:21:41Jay Dyerwrong? This is that kind of stuff all over TikTok, so we're gonna watch a little bit of this nonsense.

1:21:44Speaker 5Wait a

1:21:45Speaker 8minute. Women are terrified of men, but is that because men are

1:21:49Speaker 10truly dangerous? Or are men being used as props because women enjoy being titillated? Let's watch.

1:21:55Speaker 5Men are scary.

1:21:57Jay DyerRemember, man or bear? How about man or brother? What's your... Wait. Bear or brother? Would you rather meet a brother in the elevator or a bear in the elevator? Trick question because by a bear, I meant a large hairy gay man. Oh, I just trolled you all.

1:22:16Speaker 11What percentage of men do you think would choose to attack you?

1:22:20Speaker 5Probably, like, 80% of

1:22:22Speaker 4men. 80%?

1:22:25Jay DyerYeah, dude. Totally. 80% of men, if this shit goes in the elevator, are gonna attack her. Now she's talking about a elevator in Detroit, which, by the way,

1:22:35Speaker 8elevator

1:22:36Jay Dyerdon't even work in Detroit.

1:22:39Speaker 10Send four out of five men. You must be terrified

1:22:43Speaker 4I

1:22:43Speaker 5don't know how many years I will have lost in my life.

1:22:47Speaker 12To being so hypervigilant and having my nervous system jacked every time I walk past a man on the street.

1:22:56Jay DyerThis is so over the top dramatic.

1:22:58Speaker 4Yeah.

1:22:59Jay DyerEvery person, every guy you've ever walked past, is just literally just, like, ready to freaking pounce and grape. That's that's how dudes think. We're over here. We're just, like, ready to go great, just pouncing.

1:23:14Jay DyerAbout the

1:23:15Speaker 4grape, dude.

1:23:17Jay DyerWhen you text him, what you doing, dog? I'm about to grape. About to pounce.

1:23:23Speaker 12Why are you still playing video games when my rights are actively being threatened?

1:23:29Speaker 3Oh,

1:23:31Jay DyerOh, how come she's not doing this? You wanna sit there and play Bioshock? You wanna play your World of Warcrafts?

1:23:42Jay DyerYou wanna play your

1:23:44Jay DyerTomb Raiders?

1:23:46Jay DyerYou wanna play womb raider?

1:23:49Jay DyerHer rights are being attacked and taken from her

1:23:55Jay DyerI mean, this is almost like doesn't even seem real. This almost seems like a... Like she's trolling. Like, this is a character. Maybe she's playing a character.

1:24:03Speaker 12Why aren't you doing... I mean, if

1:24:05Speaker 10you're that scared, then men must be truly

1:24:08Speaker 4awful.

1:24:09Speaker 7We need men

1:24:09Speaker 4control.

1:24:10Jay DyerSomebody needs to control men because women are not committing

1:24:13Speaker 7crime at the

1:24:14Speaker 4rates

1:24:15Speaker 7that men are. 98%

1:24:17Jay DyerOh, wait. Who's committing all the crimes?

1:24:21Speaker 4Who? Men's?

1:24:25Jay DyerWhat kind of men's are committing all these? Just any of the men's? Or certain men's, certain youths? Certain youths committing, like, all of these crimes?

1:24:35Speaker 510 of mass shootings, men. 99% of grapes, men. And 80% of violent crimes, are committed by men. And yet when we say this, we're called sexist.

1:24:46Jay DyerThis is not

1:24:47Jay Dyersex... Oh, but wait a minute, leftist woman. What mens are doing most of this Could it be the men's brought ins? To the West, perhaps, from all of these other countries?

1:25:02Speaker 8Perhaps?

1:25:04Jay DyerIs that left

1:25:05Speaker 4out?

1:25:07Jay DyerPretty sure it

1:25:08Speaker 7is. This is just the truth.

1:25:10Speaker 9I mean,

1:25:11Speaker 10is it? Because if you define rape as including being forced to penetrate, then it actually happens to men at the same rate as women. And if you wanna convince people that women are in real danger, that there's this unique threat to women that men could just never understand, then why not include the about who's actually a victim of all of these crimes? Homicide, violence by a stranger, robbery, aggravated assault, Overwhelmingly, these are crimes that are perpetrated against men. These women

1:25:38Jay DyerOkay. But also, who is large the perpetrator of such actions? Which people groups? It's not just men's. I don't like men's no more.

1:25:55Speaker 10Have tried to aggressively monopolize a unique fear of violence for women, but by any objective measurement, is men that should be They are the ones legitimately in more danger, you have to ask yourself if the facts aren't important, then what is?

1:26:05Speaker 5There has been times where I feel that people are like,

1:26:07Speaker 4stopped.

1:26:08Speaker 6Did they or did they not? They

1:26:08Speaker 7made me feel uncomfortable.

1:26:09Speaker 5Like, I'm scared on my walk to... Back to my parking lot.

1:26:11Speaker 13In a city. Yes. It's scared of

1:26:12Speaker 11me. I grant that this happens, but, like, how many men do you walk past and there's no encounter whatsoever?

1:26:16Speaker 13A lot of the

1:26:16Speaker 11times. Tens of thousand

1:26:17Jay DyerOkay. And again, when you're in the city, and you walking into the parking garage, you're walking down the alley,

1:26:26Jay DyerAin't nobody scared of a normally dressed cracker man.

1:26:32Jay DyerLet's be honest.

1:26:35Jay DyerRight?

1:26:37Jay DyerWhen you're walking down the alley, you don't see freaking Patrick Bateman. Do you? Be honest. Like, in in the eyes of these women,

1:27:01Jay Dyerthis is what we're supposed to think they're seeing when they walk down the alley. In freaking ghetto town? Yes. Yes. Clearly. There are

1:27:11Jay Dyermillions of Patrick Batemans just waiting behind the dumpsters in the alley. To jump out. And go full American Psycho. Right?

1:27:23Jay DyerThat... That's... The cities are just jam packed with Patrick Bateman's 80% of the city is Patrick Batemans in the in the alleys and in the backways and in the parking garages. Right? Clearly.

1:27:41Jay DyerThat's that's, like, 80% of the crimes. Is Patrick Batemans everywhere in Detroit, Memphis. Memphis is all Patrick Batemans. You can't walk You can't... It's like Times Square, dude. It's like being on the damn floor of the stock exchange. Patrick Bateman's just running wild. Everywhere. Mhmm. Yes. 100 per... A 100

1:28:06Speaker 4per

1:28:08Jay DyerA 100%.

1:28:13Speaker 11Of men you

1:28:14Speaker 9watched last your entire

1:28:14Speaker 11life who've done nothing to you.

1:28:16Speaker 4Yes.

1:28:16Speaker 10Women are scared of men. But who is You gotta do that.

1:28:18Jay DyerIf you go to down... You go to Atlanta? You go to Downtown Atlanta or South Atlanta?

1:28:23Jay DyerIt's all Patrick Batemans.

1:28:25Jay DyerFar as I can see, dude. You think you had a a stock exchange convention? You think you were at a business corp meeting.

1:28:37Speaker 10Responsible for that fear. There are two lies that feminism needs to be held accountable for. The first is that women are under attack, that they are in constant danger. The evidence does not support The second is that men's advocacy content is literally causing a wave of violence against women because young men are so sex But that is also a lie. We were completely vindicated by that study from The UK earlier this year that showed that despite all the constant fear mongering about the manus young women are three times more prejudiced against men than the other way around. So why are they always complaining about sexism from men? Well, it's like I always say, a woman's complaint is her confession. It's

1:29:04Jay DyerSo all of this is really a very sophisticated form of psychological warfare to get society in the West. Pitted against itself by design. Men and women against each other by design. But as Lord Voldemort pointed out today, which is kind of crazy, there was a black college that put out a propaganda piece saying that it's actually good if

1:29:28Jay DyerWestern non BIPOC persons are graped because it helps society to accept immigration. You can't make this up. Yes. You heard me right. So

1:29:42Jay Dyerforeign on Western grape,

1:29:45Jay DyerRight? But if a white dude hits on a girl, great, dude. That's freaking great.

1:29:54Jay DyerOr if you let one slide,

1:29:59Jay Dyerthat's fart grape. Remember when the feminists were pushing fart grape a few years ago? I'm not joking. If you rip one in the subway, that's fart grape, dude. You just grate my nose.

1:30:10Jay DyerThat's how silly this stuff

1:30:11Speaker 4is.

1:30:11Speaker 10Projection to distract us from how insanely bigoted and

1:30:14Speaker 3sexist

1:30:15Speaker 10modern women are. No one wants to say this out loud, but here we go. The truth is that all of this fear and paranoia that women are experiencing is a choice. Worth

1:30:23Jay DyerIt's even beyond what this guy is saying though. It's intentional psychological warfare intended to destroy society. This is sophisticated Tawas stock, RAND Corporation, high level psychological warfare, Harvard, MIT, like all of these Remember when the coup was happening, the Canadian government admitted that they were using Harvard Yale psychological warfare studies on how to just simply destroy the public with fear. That was admitted.

1:30:56Jay DyerIs... Do you think that's it?

1:30:59Jay DyerLike, this stuff is by design. And the manosphere, quote unquote, stuff, you'll notice over over time, it gets so obsessed with women that it eventually... It starts flipping over into the gay stuff. I'm not saying that this guy's gay. Don't know about this dude. I'm just saying in general, like, happens is the pressure points from both sides are so intense. That they try to radicalize people. So they want 20 year old dudes radicalize into being just absolutely insane

1:31:31Jay Dyerincel dudes that will snap.

1:31:34Jay DyerThey want that. So don't do what they want, you goobers.

1:31:42Speaker 10That it is a lifestyle preference. It's a form of entertainment. They enjoy And this woman is going to tell you why. But first, this message is sponsored by Raycon. I recently damaged my shoulder really badly when I was hiking. My physio has me on a rehab pro You can celebrate. If the manosphere inspired wave of misogyny is

1:31:55Speaker 4a myth

1:31:55Speaker 10and the crime statistics show that women are not in some unique danger from men, then let's hear what's actually causing their panic.

1:32:00Speaker 5These are the things currently rotting women's brains on social media.

1:32:03Speaker 12Number one, true crime. There's difference

1:32:04Jay DyerI need to find that, that clip of Mary Morgan talking about Mar a Lago face Although, she wasn't talking about... She was about

1:32:13Jay Dyercan't find it, but she was talking about plastic surgery because we're gonna talk about that in a minute. Because the plastic surgery stuff is also, like, serial killer adjacent, believe it or not. But

1:32:27Jay Dyerwell, we already kinda covered that with freaking Megan Fox, right, turning into Laura Loomer.

1:32:34Speaker 4But

1:32:35Jay Dyerthere is something to this with

1:32:37Jay Dyerthe obsession with crime and all that stuff. Now I know that we're talking about serial killers. So in a sense, like, yeah, we're talking about that kind of stuff. But we were talking about the serial killer stuff six years ago. Did a whole bunch of podcasts on the mafia and serial killers and now this is, like, back in the public's consciousness because everyone is obsessed with true crime. Right? I figured the true crime stuff would kinda die out because it was starting to pop off in 2020 when we were talking about it. I thought it would kinda die down. I think Candice be... Is basically the magnifier of

1:33:15Jay Dyerthe true... Because her whole thing is basically a... Just a true crime podcast of she's gonna solve the twirly court situation, which has turned into just a giant embarrassing fiasco, which in my opinion, did nothing but damage actually figuring out what happened to Charlie Kirk. By the way, I think I'm vindicated. I was telling you all along that this is super sus. All that stuff came out. By the way, she went on and said, okay. Yeah. That is my... I thought it wasn't your profile. Okay. But it is. But it's not, but it is. I mean, she can't even keep her live stream.

1:33:47Jay DyerDude. I told you guys this all e. You guys are so stupid, dude. I'm talking about her audience. But the wine mom true crime audience,

1:33:57Jay Dyerwhich we're trying to now capture,

1:33:59Jay DyerI'm trying to capture all the wine moms to come over here. I'm joking, by the way. They come over here and call in. On the regular, so I guess it's working.

1:34:09Jay DyerBut even Mary Morgan figured this out. Oh, true crime. A true crime, and then the Lindsay Clancy thing, and then the

1:34:17Jay Dyerand they're a new one. There's a new

1:34:20Jay Dyeroh, the the the the college frat trial thing.

1:34:24Speaker 3Right?

1:34:25Jay DyerAnd what's happening, people aren't even looking at the facts. This happens on both sides, by the way. People just jump in and defend their team. Everything is a team.

1:34:35Jay DyerOh, I'm gonna defend... I'm on team... They'll even say this. I'm team Candice. Team Candice. Team, three zero four, who... Whoever the chick was. I'm on team Bonnie Blue. What?

1:34:48Speaker 13Between taking an interest in criminology or a particular case and habitually indulging in an utter fascination with the most evil gruesome crimes imaginable. These women either end up idolizing criminals or convincing themselves as serial killers around every corner. One

1:34:58Speaker 10of the reasons why the Lindsay Clancy case. I said

1:35:00Jay Dyera long time ago. I said this that this is intended to make women think that everybody's a serial killer, right, which is

1:35:07Speaker 10crazy. This came out of nowhere for so many men is because men don't typically treat the criminal justice system as a source of entertainment and gossip. We didn't really hear about the case until we saw a news piece that showed women dressed in pink outside the courthouse supporting her. All did a double take and we're like, wait. What? What did this woman confess to? Why are these women supporting But women had been following the case and all of its details for ages, discussing it, dissecting it, forming theories. You're probably

1:35:27Jay DyerAlright. I'm gonna skip ahead to the next part.

1:35:31Speaker 10The dots to the fact that these same women rubbing themselves raw every night listening to stories of serial killers? Seriously,

1:35:36Speaker 5The reason we're so focused on the perpetrator

1:35:40Speaker 14is because we're trying to protect ourselves from that.

1:35:43Speaker 4What

1:35:43Speaker 14trying to figure out is how do I spot that predator when he's sleeping in the bed beside me?

1:35:49Jay DyerOkay. This is so silly because

1:35:53Speaker 4the

1:35:54Jay Dyeridea that every man is a potential serial killer is crazy. That's just ridiculous, man. This is so insane. And then people flock to this too because they want to have drama and stories. They wanna text their friend.

1:36:06Speaker 8And I think my husband's like a secret serial killer.

1:36:09Speaker 14Specifically designed to seek out death and danger in safe controlled environments. Psychologists call it morbid curiosity. This morbid curiosity, it's actually a survival mechanism. True crime viewers and listeners are actually measurably better at spotting threats and remembering escape tactics than people who

1:36:22Jay DyerOkay. So... Yeah. So true crime will make everybody into dreadlock Holmes. Right? So Candice watched a bunch of true crime, and she became dreadlock Holmes And she's gonna solve all the crimes, dog. She got that shit figured out, bro. She got it on the lockdown. Man or burr?

1:36:46Speaker 14Don't consume it. This red flag radar isn't just for extreme situations. It translates to smaller everyday situations like spotting a bad apple in the workplace or sensing it's time to cut off the

1:36:53Speaker 10data. We need to invent So

1:36:56Jay Dyerwatched a bunch of true crime and now I can tell AR... Department who to fire. You need to fire that guy because he asked me out. On a date. By the way, this is how it actually works in corporate settings. Right? I was... Last time I was in a corporate setting was, like, twenty twelve. And thank god there were no good looking women where I work. But it was the same way where if happened, like, oh, you go to the HR, and the HR department would yes. HR speak, right, which is this this

1:37:26Jay Dyerthe the corporate world is absolutely insane.

1:37:29Speaker 10Wrong to vocabulary because words like delusional just don't cut it anymore. These women are spinning in their own fucking universe. And it's hard to tell if this is just a really bad faith argument or if quite sincerely, these women just had no concept or ability to understand scale. Serial killers rapists, kidnappers, these are extremes, statistical anomalies, They exist on the outer fringe of human behavior.

1:37:47Jay DyerNo. They're literally everywhere. Right? This is this is the thing with the true crime stuff. Is it makes people think... I'm not saying... Because we're into true crime. Right? Our study of the global elites is a form of true crime. It's the truest of the true crime because that's the true criminals actually running shit. Right? But it's not as sexy because it's like white papers and giant 600 page books as Jeffrey. Right? That's a lot sexier. Although Jeffrey was Skittles, so he wasn't

1:38:17Jay Dyerinto girls, so it's not as

1:38:18Speaker 4sexy.

1:38:19Speaker 10Extreme psychopathy? Does not give you any useful tools for identifying the sort of man that you're going to meet in everyday life. The guy who's just a problematic. He's dishonest or

1:38:26Jay DyerYeah. I guess I'm actually honorary wine

1:38:28Speaker 4mom.

1:38:28Jay DyerThat's a good point. Mark Coleman says wine moms know serial killers the way that dudes know football stats. That's true, dude. I'm a honorary wine mom, but... Because I could tell I could tell you about some serial killers. Look. I'm trying to give you a dude's version of a wine mom true crime podcast tonight, guys.

1:38:50Jay DyerAnd I... I'm still convinced that's less gay than being obsessed with sports hole.

1:38:55Jay DyerBecause sports hall is just sweaty black dudes running in circles. Putting objects into holes. That's gay as

1:39:01Speaker 4heck, dude.

1:39:03Jay DyerWe've already talked about that a lot.

1:39:06Jay DyerWhat's a lot less gay than that? Figuring out who the gay dudes are eating other dudes in cannibal rituals. Jeffrey. Wait. That's way less gay because we're trying to stop that shit. You trying to perpetuate the gay NFL and NBA, the NBA.

1:39:24Jay DyerAnd the WNBA gay. We're trying to stop all of this. What's a good crypto wallet besides Robinhood or Coinbase? Those are not good crypto wallets. Those aren't even... I mean, those are hot wallets, but

1:39:41Jay DyerI mean, I would say you just need to look into cold storage ultimately. Do not get a cold card. I'll tell you that. Thank god I never got a cold card. And I had people mailing me free cold cards trying to get me to get... Here. Use this. Like, I'm gonna use a wallet mailed to me from some... Come on, dude. I'm not that stupid. I might be a little spooky, but I'm not stupid. I don't think. Alright. Let's move ahead here. We gotta get to over here to Jeffrey. What's this chick talking about?

1:40:10Speaker 14Murdery on TV. Even if it's a doctor Phillips, it has

1:40:13Speaker 4to be about murders.

1:40:13Speaker 15And then slowly, I'll just drift into sleep. And I don't know how or why. You have to

1:40:18Jay DyerI gotta... I mean, I guess I'm a honorary wine mom because I do all the same stuff, dude. I'll fall asleep listening to them Leonard Lake, Jeffrey, serial killer podcast. I'm a honorary. I gotta come clean, you

1:40:30Speaker 4guys.

1:40:30Jay DyerI'm a... I am a wine mom. I'm a wine mom, true crime, I'm a wine daddy, true crime. Man. We just gotta come clean.

1:40:44Jay DyerI guess that's the BIPOC in me. That's the the e diva in me. I wanna be the queen of their true crimes. It should not be Candice. It should be me.

1:40:54Jay DyerI'm convinced too a lot of Candace stuff is ripped off of me

1:40:57Speaker 10anyway. Sorry about the mindset of a democrat

1:40:59Jay DyerWho was the one saying faking gay the whole time? Me. A saying faking gay for, like, a decade, and they can't Faking guy. Faking guy. Faking guy, if I can... It's all for me, dude.

1:41:10Speaker 11Who

1:41:10Speaker 10finds this kind of gory violence not just entertaining, but soothing? I go into more detail No.

1:41:15Jay DyerIt ain't soothing.

1:41:16Speaker 4That's the thing.

1:41:19Jay DyerI guess it is a little odd. Right? I'm a wine ounk. Even though I hate wine.

1:41:26Speaker 4I'm

1:41:28Jay Dyernot a...

1:41:28Speaker 4Yeah. I'm a

1:41:29Jay Dyerhonorary wine unk. Honorary wine ant. But we look at the serial killers because we're full schizo. Right? We're like, no. This is some kind of MK Ultra you know, occult networks thing going

1:41:47Speaker 4on. Right?

1:41:47Jay DyerSo we take it to the next level.

1:41:50Speaker 10Hell, on exactly why women find this so pleasurable in part two, but it's undeniable this genre.

1:41:56Jay DyerI can tell you I don't find any of it pleasurable. Disgusting. Dude, it's gross. That's why we pace ourselves. Right? We go in cycles. Like, we talked about the serial killer six years ago. Right? So there's a new cycle of the serial killers because new information comes out. That's what we care

1:42:10Speaker 10Feeds on the morbid hypergamous pool that women feel towards dangerous and aggressive men. It's a taboo attraction that these women enjoy exploring. It's just thinly masked under this

1:42:20Jay DyerShit. This... I feel like I'm getting exposed. And do I have a taboo attraction to Jeffrey What the heck, dude? Am I getting exposed? Am I am I just Patrick Bateman the whole time? The wine moms have been correct? I'm a Patrick Bateman the whole time, dude.

1:42:39Jay DyerExposed. I mean, he is look... He does look kinda fly. Looking

1:42:44Speaker 8pretty cool.

1:42:46Speaker 4Right?

1:42:49Jay DyerLet's check out your boy here.

1:42:52Speaker 4Jeff.

1:42:56Jay DyerI mean, ladies, we need your... We need a top 10 here. Who's the hottest of the serial killers? Is it Ted Bundy? Come on, ladies. Be honest now.

1:43:07Speaker 4If

1:43:08Jay Dyerif Jeffrey was into dudes, if if Jeff walked up in the bar, and started spitting some of that serial killer game, would you ladies go for it, or would y'all be like, get away. Ew. Or would you be attracted to the danger I went to the Donner's own. Y'all wanna... Ladies wanna go to the

1:43:30Speaker 4Dommer's Own?

1:43:31Jay DyerSeem like the... Jeffrey just like to eat the chocolate meat. He was a fan of chocolate because I think he only... Didn't he only eat black dudes?

1:43:41Jay DyerI'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying. Like, that's... Ain't that a fact?

1:43:48Jay DyerLadies ladies think Otis Toole might be the hottest. Are you sure it's not Henry Lee Lucas is the hottest? Let's see. Well, ladies, what... Is it Henry?

1:44:00Jay DyerAbout Henry? Henry ain't got his teeths. He lost a couple of his tiefs.

1:44:08Jay DyerYeah. See? Henry got a lazy eye and one tooth. So I don't know a lot, but I know that ladies don't typically like guys with lazy eyes and... Well, two out of two out of 10 teeths.

1:44:25Jay DyerHe's about a 20%.

1:44:28Jay DyerDentistry percentage man.

1:44:32Jay DyerGuys, thank you for the super chats. We're having fun tonight with we're full on true... I'm almost... I'm a just start calling my podcast the the wine unc podcast, the wine ant podcast. The wine bipoc podcast, bipod. BIPOD.

1:44:49Jay DyerWine and BIPOD.

1:44:52Jay DyerI mean, technically, am a bipod. I have two legs. I walk on two

1:44:56Speaker 4legs.

1:44:56Jay DyerI am a bipod. Bipod, bipod. The BIPOD BIPOD podcast. BIPOD by podcast.

1:45:05Jay DyerIt all works.

1:45:06Jay DyerBut ladies, who's the hottest of the serial killers? You gotta... Is it is it Ted? Does Ted get a 10? I mean, Ted's kind of like for you ladies. Right? Is he like a probably the closest thing to Patrick Bateman. Right?

1:45:31Jay DyerBut, I mean, you know, I guess that's his best picture there. Ladies, what do you think? What do you ladies rate a... Rate rate your... Not a serial killers?

1:45:44Jay DyerOh my gosh. Tide is like, so... I was like a a or a naught. Oh my gosh. Todd is so hot

1:45:51Speaker 4right now.

1:45:55Jay DyerCome on. Ladies, we got a 10%, 8% lady audience. Is Ted the hottest, or is it Henry Lee Lucas? Y'all gotta tell me. Or perhaps Ed Gein.

1:46:03Speaker 10Socially acceptable facade of pursuing justice. But the whole thing also reinforces women's monopoly on vulnerability and justifies their weaponization of their supposed victimhood. It

1:46:13Jay DyerYeah. Where is everybody standing up for gay black dudes? Jeffrey was over there just chowing down on, like, 15 gay black dudes. Nobody cares about ghetto gay black dudes getting eaten by Jeffrey.

1:46:28Jay DyerWomen are mad because, like, how come Jeffrey wasn't eating women? Like, how come he didn't wanna eat me? I don't mean that in a dirty way, I mean like actual

1:46:38Speaker 4physically

1:46:38Jay Dyerlike consuming the flesh.

1:46:40Jay DyerWar with men right now or, like, I'm feeling very against men right

1:46:44Speaker 5now. We are gaining consciousness and, like, seen as everything about men thanks to the Internet and technology at a rate, like, faster than we know how to deal with.

1:46:51Jay DyerOh my gosh. Dude, look at her

1:46:52Speaker 16eyes. Gaining

1:46:53Speaker 13access

1:46:53Jay DyerThe the Internet is driving these people insane, dude. It's TikTok. It's driving these people insane. I'm I'm... TikTok and SSRIs, dude. This is a nightmare mix.

1:47:08Jay DyerI'm starting to wonder, remember when

1:47:14Jay DyerI don't actually believe this, but it's funny to entertain the thought. Remember when Fred Springmire would talk about how

1:47:22Jay Dyerthere's all of these people that are mind controlled and can snap at any moment? And that the Internet and movies and songs can, like, trigger people to snap. I'm starting to think. Like, maybe there's an Ed Harris dude sitting up in his, you know,

1:47:41Jay DyerTruman Show meme control center.

1:47:45Jay DyerRemember? In Truman show, he's sitting up in that

1:47:51Jay Dyerhe's up there, and he's like,

1:47:53Jay Dyertrigger the MK Ultra wine mom.

1:47:57Speaker 4Right?

1:48:05Speaker 9Remember how

1:48:06Jay DyerFritz would give those lecture? I'm the, my god. He's got a bunch of super agents everywhere, and they can trigger them at any time. Illuminati can trigger the the sleeper

1:48:16Speaker 4agents. I'm

1:48:18Jay Dyerthinking, man, what if the aluminum... Ed

1:48:20Speaker 8Harris is up there

1:48:21Speaker 4triggering

1:48:21Jay Dyerthe wine moms to snap.

1:48:23Jay DyerHe's got them all profiled in his giant supercomputer.

1:48:27Jay DyerIt's chicks like this that snap. Right?

1:48:33Jay DyerY'all ready? We gotta get into

1:48:36Jay Dyeralright. That's enough of that. Let's get into

1:48:42Jay DyerJeffrey Badonkadonk, the new documentary that I found, and we're gonna give credit to this channel. This dude went and... We got a schizo conspiracy on bro. I don't know this guy, but he went full bore researching Jeffrey. And he made this insane level the four part documentary, so we gotta get into it. We're gonna start right now. Everybody strap in. But before we do, I gotta remember, we got a sponsor, which is

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1:52:55Jay DyerAlright. Here we go. We're gonna... We're about to get

1:53:01Jay Dyerget gross.

1:53:03Jay DyerGet... We're going full wine mom tonight.

1:53:06Jay DyerYou guys are

1:53:08Jay Dyerin for a treat.

1:53:10Jay DyerWe're going full hypocrisy, full true crying, why mom? BIPOC true crying. Mind elsewhere. He

1:53:18Jay Dyerhad also

1:53:19Jay DyerNow, I wanna give a shout out to our friend here. I don't know this guy, but he's put together a good series

1:53:27Jay Dyerand this is about MK Ultra and serial killers, particularly with Jeffrey. We're gonna start with this. I thought this guy did really good work. We have covered this six years ago, so we were ahead of everybody on this topic. I think there is a Jeff... Let me let me refresh myself. In Dave's book, is there a Jeffrey chapter? I think there is.

1:53:49Jay DyerLet me take a look. Because we did a whole book analysis of program to kill maybe six years ago. Well, of course, he doesn't have

1:54:01Jay Dyerthere's there's no index, which is annoying. But I think there is a Jeffrey chapter. But regardless, this guy did really good by putting together a lot of the loyal field... Lowell field information into a digestible

1:54:19Jay Dyermega documentary. So this is semiot's documentary. We're gonna be watching and reacting. Shout out to him. And he brought forth quite a bit of new information that I had not seen. I have followed the story pretty close for many years. So let's check out the new information.

1:54:40Jay DyerA gruesome story leads off our newscast.

1:54:42Megan FoxMilwaukee police found body parts a North Side apartment, and now they wonder if they've uncovered some kind of death factory

1:54:48Speaker 3You say in your book, why don't you say, I've come to believe that some of the compulsions that overwhelm my son may have had their origins in me.

1:54:56Speaker 4The person to blame is sitting right across from you. That's the only person Not parents, not society, not pornography. I mean, are just excuses. It appears that the jail isn't something that ritualistic process.

1:55:09Jay DyerRemember the Podestas? The Podestas had this very art hanging up in their New York facility. I think it was in... Or DC. One of their New York or DC place. And that was scrubbed from Washington Post, if I recall, because they did this whole

1:55:26Jay Dyerreport on the Podestas having this artwork.

1:55:29Speaker 4The entire Dahmer family underwent a psychiatric evaluation that Jeffrey and his brother told

1:55:34Speaker 5investigators they feared certain conduct by their father and that he should leave their home. And at the same time, father told authorities Dahmer had been abused by a neighbor boy at the age of eight.

1:55:43Jay DyerA lot of people don't know a lot of these, sort of suppressed forgotten details of the Jeffrey Bahnsen case. And as I was watching this documentary, there were things that I started thinking about that reminded me also of the chemical side of this. People don't know there's a massive chemical side to the stuff, particularly with his dad who was a prominent chemist working for PPG Industries, Pittsburgh Paints.

1:56:14Jay DyerI used to be a paint manager, paint store manager, and I mixed paint for many years. And I've always wondered if, like, maybe I was exposed to too many PPG chemicals. I don't know. I'm not saying PPG chemicals is to, blame for Jeffrey, you'll notice that with Jeffrey, we just have the underage period of being abused as you just saw here, which not many people know that, but also the exposure of Jeff in his mom's womb to a massive cocktail of chemicals.

1:56:53Jay DyerAnd that blew me away because people overlook this. When he was in his mom's womb, she was on, like, 30 pharmaceuticals. What? Just an insane maybe maybe not 30. Maybe it's, 15 or 20, but still, like, just an absolutely insane level that makes absolutely no sense for a pregnant woman to be on. And Lionel himself, the father, had this morbid fixation on hypnosis and mind control. Nobody talks about this, but Lionel himself talked about it. And we don't know all the details, but

1:57:28Jay Dyermy suspicion is that

1:57:30Jay Dyernot just in the womb, but Jeff grew up

1:57:34Jay Dyerexposed to, like, insane levels of chemical stuff.

1:57:38Jay DyerLike, absolutely weird, crazy toxic chemicals. Throughout his youth.

1:57:43Jay DyerThis has to have had a role in him. Then you mix that being what he became, and you mix that with the

1:57:53Jay Dyerabuse when he was eight by allegedly a neighborhood kid. But there also comes up stories, I think, by a caseworker, probation worker. There were stories also of Lionel himself. Being involved, although this later gets denied. One of the main problems with the serial killers is that they contradict themselves. Right? Remember, serial killers tend to be narcissistic psychos. And Skittles dudes quite often. And those guys lie a

1:58:25Jay DyerRight? So shocker. But there are all kinds of things that point beyond just the organic loan

1:58:36Jay Dyerserial killer, not person. And I always ask these questions because I see the same patterns with high profile assassinations oftentimes have the narrative. Oh, this is just the lone gun Oh, he's just a lone person, not working with... There's nobody else. He's working with. Now wait a minute. It's already come out. We know

1:58:57Jay Dyer100% fact that John Wayne Gacy was working with other people. And was connected to a network that included Dean Coral, the Candyman killer.

1:59:07Jay DyerAnd so... Wait a minute. He wasn't working alone.

1:59:11Jay DyerThere was a group, a network. This came... This seems to keep happening. Wait a minute. Henry Lucas wasn't working alone. He worked with Otis Toole as part of a network connected to the Matamoros cult.

1:59:22Jay DyerBut all that's suppressed because we're supposed to believe that all of the serial killers, the big famous ones, know they all all just are organic. They don't have satanic occult connections. Many of them do.

1:59:35Jay DyerExplicitly. No. No. They're all working alone. It's all organic. And it's just it's just above average white dudes that just snap.

1:59:43Jay DyerIs that true?

1:59:44Jay DyerNow I'm sure that sometimes that has happened.

1:59:49Jay DyerBut the creation of the of the serial killer in everyone's mind is a middle aged white guy with above average intelligence or high IQ who suddenly snaps because he can't get laid or something like that. And that is just not true. I don't think that's true. I think that's a fake created archetype And you'll notice the true crying wine moms they all believe then that, oh, you see there's all these white guys just waiting around every corner to grate me.

2:00:21Jay DyerNo. It's not the white guys that are doing a lot of these grapes. Okay? Right? But how do we get this archetype created? Well, through select choices

2:00:38Jay Dyerof people like Dahmer or Ted Bundy, right, these characters. And then the media suppressing other things about these people,

2:00:47Jay Dyerand then highlighting

2:00:50Jay Dyerand creating in fictional stories

2:00:54Jay Dyerlike with Hannibal Lecter. Right? The creation of an archetype. And just like with high profile assassins and high profile conspiracies, whether it's Charlie Kirk or whether it's JFK or RFK, It's the lone gunman, and they just snap, and it's all organic. Alright. Now most people these days don't believe that story anymore. They don't believe that

2:01:19Jay Dyeryou know, Oswald just acted alone and he just snapped and and think people started to figure this out a long time ago, but it's like,

2:01:27Jay Dyerwell, why does a mafia dude come in and assassinate Lee Harvey Oswald? Like, obviously, like, there's other things going on. It's like, Jack Ruby, this high level Jewish mafia guy comes and assassinates, Lee Harvey Oswald.

2:01:44Jay DyerYeah. Exactly. And there are women serial killers and black dude serial killers and Hispanic serial killers.

2:01:55Jay DyerBut you don't hear about any of that. Now I don't think it's all completely fake. But I'm saying the creation of the archetype... Because remember, the FBI didn't create a serial killer task force profiling unit until the late seventies. But we're supposed to think that all the circles are just Ted Bondi, Charles Manson, Henry Lee Lucas,

2:02:20Jay DyerJeffrey,

2:02:23Jay Dyerand then, you know, a selection of other archetypal patterns but that's a created pattern and archetype that is not true. And we're gonna see this first with Jeffrey.

2:02:35Speaker 4Was Jeff sexually abused at any time? No. Never.

2:02:38Jay DyerNow, why does his dad

2:02:43Jay Dyersay no when the caseworker said he was abused when he was eight.

2:02:47Speaker 4But not abused

2:02:48Jay Dyerby anyone

2:02:49Speaker 5in the home.

2:02:49Speaker 4No. Sexual? No.

2:03:01Jay DyerScope of the crimes committed here are beyond department two one three, beyond Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, and certainly beyond just one man, Jeffrey Dahmer. Will be discussing the facts of the case and in a way the birthing or manufacturing of the myth of the Milwaukee cannibal.

2:03:15Speaker 4I've often wondered why I haven't had more dreams or nightmares about what I've done. Some reason, it's like

2:03:25Speaker 4it's it's blocked off from part of my mind.

2:03:39Jay DyerPracticing chemist who would only... And suffered epileptic fits brought on by extreme sensory

2:03:48Jay Dyer05/21/2019

2:03:49Jay DyerBy the way, I would say if you are interested in a subject, I do recommend Dave McGowan's classic tax program to kill. Right? So we're already sort of we're not watching this fresh. We're watching this with the presupposition of the potentiality that serial killers in general, maybe not every single one of them, but many of them have connections to other networks of organized crime, perhaps corrupt cops, and the idea of ritual cult etcetera, all being kind of connected in certain case. Not in every case. So don't misunderstand what I'm saying. But you're gonna be surprised, I think, if you don't know about Dahmer the curious connections and things that the media

2:04:28Jay Dyersuppressed and that you never heard.

2:04:30Jay Dyer60, Jeffrey Dahmer was born into the world. For the past nine months, was being crafted in the bloodstream of a woman who was taking up to twenty six prescription pills a day and suffered epileptic fits brought on

2:04:40Jay DyerNow, by way, I've looked at several of this guy's sources. Right? So a lot of times, he'll source other investigators, lawyers that wrote on this case. And the sources are accurate as far as I've seen. Didn't check every single source, but the ones I did check, they were accurate. So note that she was on 26 What mom is on twenty six chemicals? And I would say this is is odd that, you know, Leonard, the dad, is that his name Leonard?

2:05:14Jay DyerWhy would he want his wife on that many chemicals? Right? Now he is a chemist, and he did study hypnosis, so keep that in mind. And in this... In the case of Lindsey Clancy, which I've not spent a whole lot of time on that case, but it is odd that this woman was prescribed so many pharmaceuticals. Like, why is she on so many... Why are these people on so many far... This is just insane.

2:05:37Jay DyerWho is on 26 pharmaceuticals? That's crazy.

2:05:42Jay DyerBy extreme sensory sensitivity that at times direct injections to subdue.

2:05:47Jay DyerHis father was a studying and later practicing chemist who would only after Jeff's crimes had been committed begin to question whether or not this extreme drug protocol may have affected Jeff's development in the womb. From Jeff's very conception

2:06:00Jay DyerSo do you see where I'm getting, like, the big pharma side of

2:06:05Jay DyerJeffrey is there from the beginning. He is conceived The mom is pregnant with him on 26 pharmaceuticals. This is absolutely batshit crazy.

2:06:16Speaker 4Okay.

2:06:16Jay DyerTo me. And fast forward to now,

2:06:21Jay Dyermoms are supposed to get how many? Stabbies?

2:06:26Jay Dyer60?

2:06:28Jay DyerI mean, we are in full on dystopia Jeffrey Bedonkadong world,

2:06:34Jay Dyerdude. His mind may have been irreparably warped. Jeff would seem not to show it though as he grew up an energetic and outgoing kid. He was born in Milwaukee, but quickly after he was born in 1962, his father would move he and his mother to Ames, Iowa, where Lionel would begin his study for PhD. While living in Milwaukee, Lionel, Joyce, and Jeff all shared the same basement Jeff would later kill him.

2:06:56Jay DyerBy the way, we will, also be looking at, since it is spooked spooktober, perfect time. Right? I'm a go full, you know, wine onk here with you guys. We will be looking at the finders, and we will be looking at Franklin and all that because all of this all ties in. I I think that a lot of this, not all of it, a lot of these things do connect. Certain individuals connect a lot of these cases.

2:07:22Jay DyerAnd I... I'm not convinced that Maury Terry is a total phony and that it's all fake. I I I don't I'm not believing the debunking that's now going on. Right? So this theory has been around for a while. Dave wrote his book in 2004. And, you know, the last stream we looked at, doctor Thomas, Navy, talking about the program that they had at a NATO conference to create serial killers. I don't think that... I'm not on board with all the debunk

2:07:52Jay DyerNow the debunkers have an important role because the debunkers are good at pointing out where there is bad information. But what happens is when the debunkers come along, we're supposed to then think, oh, it's it's all fake. It's all bullshit. There are no connections between... Look. It's already been demonstrated that John Wayne Gacy did have a direct connection with John David Norman, Paske, and Dean Coral. That's on record.

2:08:17Jay DyerAnd people thought and said for decades, including, I think, Gacy himself, that, no. I was working with other people. And I was working with other... There was other networks of

2:08:27Speaker 6this.

2:08:28Jay DyerOkay? And what connected that network network was that creeper dude John David Norman, who was setting up boys

2:08:37Jay Dyertown type things.

2:08:40Jay DyerHouses for boys, who were strays and runaways, to be discipled by older men.

2:08:48Jay DyerAnd

2:08:50Jay Dyerwe know... Again, here's another thing that... This is another reason why this is all suppressed.

2:08:55Jay DyerThis is a lot of gay networks.

2:08:57Speaker 4Okay?

2:08:59Jay DyerSame with Herb Baumeister.

2:09:00Speaker 6Right?

2:09:01Jay DyerThese are BDS gay clubs and networks,

2:09:09Jay Dyerand they connect together and they share

2:09:14Jay Dyerrecordings on record of what they do.

2:09:21Jay DyerKeep that in mind because that's gonna be a very important part of Jeffrey Benoncadon case.

2:09:26Jay DyerIt is here in this move to Iowa

2:09:27Jay DyerWhich, by the way, no one talks about. Because if in the case of Jeffrey, he had, recording equipment in his

2:09:36Jay Dyerhouse of horrors, in his ghetto

2:09:38Jay Dyerapartment. Jeff more than likely had his first memories. This could have been playing outside or roughhousing with his dad, but one memory has a higher probability than others to be his very first. In Iowa, it would seem Jeff was allergic to the place as Lionel, who had moved the family on campus would be going back and forth with Jeff to the clinic for seemingly endless infections Jeff had come down with, leading him time and again with a new round of injection. Several times during those years, he fell victim to various infections. Almost every week seemed to bring another round of illness.

2:10:06Jay DyerYeah. It seems like what young Jeff too, he has this very weak constitution, and he's very susceptible to getting sick all the time. And, apparently, I said, his name is Lionel. I forgot that his name. Lionel took Jeff to get all these injections. Alright? Which I'm sure they... I I mean, I'm saying literally, I'm not being facetious or or sarcastic. Like, I think they probably were just you know, allergy injections injections or whatever, but it is interesting that he's already in bad health when he's, like, eight and nine and having to get all

2:10:37Jay Dyerthese injections.

2:10:38Jay DyerHe often contracted ear and throat infections which would keep him crying through the night. Over and over, he was taken to the university clinic for injections. And after a time, his little buttocks were covered with injection lumps, and he began to lash out at the nurses and doctors who labored to treat him.

2:10:50Jay DyerThis, unfortunately, would not be the end of young Jeff's early medical intervention. That would leave any kid weary of the doctors. Jeff would begin to complain about a pain in his groin which was soon discovered to be a hernia. Lionel and Joyce were told that if this condition got any worse, the boy would need surgery. Right after Christmas in '23, Jeff would have to be put under, alive but unconscious, and operated on under the knife, much like his later victims. It was found that not only did he have a hernia, but the condition had worsened to a double hernia.

2:11:18Jay DyerThis, of course, would have a profound effect on Jeff's child mind. This once outgoing and exploratory kid was now introverted and would

2:11:25Jay DyerSo they say after I'm not saying he was mind programmed. No. I think he really just had a normal hernia surgery. But the going under for the double hernia surgery, they say that that he... This is according to his dad, that afterwards, he seemed to be a be a very different child. So it could have been the medical anesthesia or whatever, like the treatment,

2:11:46Jay Dyersort of profoundly changed his his brain state.

2:11:50Jay DyerStared blankly into space. His exploration turned from the world without

2:11:54Jay Dyerto the world within.

2:11:56Jay DyerHis father would remember of this time. He seemed to grow more inward, sitting quietly for long periods, hardly stirring, his face oddly motionless.

2:12:07Jay DyerJeff had always showed a love for living creatures. After his surgery, though, in the discovery of the living world within that made everything

2:12:13Speaker 4work,

2:12:14Jay DyerAnd this is one of the interesting changes that gets noted is that he moves from a fascination with and loving of animals and creatures to now being obsessed with their innards and dissecting. And that's gonna play an important role throughout his life because there's... Again, this is obviously some kind of significant change. Like, kids don't typically go from, you know, loving animals and creatures to then, oh, now I want to dissect them and pull their innards out. But he gets very obsessed with this, and this will actually lead to his first and I think this is legit. What appears to be his first flirtation with the occult, and that will relate to his

2:12:55Jay Dyerwhat he does with a dog carcass as we'll see.

2:12:57Jay DyerDeath's love turned to fascination, one that he would act on right away, but nonetheless planted itself deeply in his The

2:13:03Jay Dyeris not an AI documentary. I don't know what you're talking about. This is a a dude that does documentaries. It's not AI. So quit fussing and complaining.

2:13:11Jay DyerMind. Jeff would become increasingly shy, which was made all the worse when the place he had known since his earliest mem...

2:13:16Jay DyerI've got it on sped up so that we don't take forever. It's not an AI documentary.

2:13:20Jay DyerWould no longer be his home, and all the friends he had made he would never see again. After completing his PhD, Lionel move the family to Akron and later Bath Township, Ohio, where he would begin to work for PPG a paint company that he would be employed for.

2:13:35Jay DyerShout out. That was a I was a paint store manager for ten years at PPG. So hopefully, I didn't get the Jeffrey Bedonka dong program.

2:13:42Jay DyerAs a chemist, before the move, Joyce had told Lionel she had wanted another child. This she did not suffer the same epileptic fits, and nothing is mentioned of her drug use during her second pregnancy.

2:13:52Jay DyerNoticing the increased shyness of Jeff after the move, a

2:13:55Jay Dyerfew... Woah, dude. Look at that. It's a two headed dog. That's the problem. Lionel bought Jeffrey a two headed freak dog, and that's what drove Jeffrey crazy, dude.

2:14:05Jay DyerThings were done to try to bring him out of his shell. He would get a dog, Frisky, and he would also be allowed to name the new addition to the family. He would name him David.

2:14:14Jay DyerAfter David's birth in December 1966, Joyce's mental stability would again slip away from her. Time and again, Lionel and Joyce would get in fights where Lionel would, according to author Brian Masters, try to calm his wife.

2:14:26Jay DyerJeff Now this is when she begins to have serious mental problems and we follow the case. Or if you watch any of the films, most of the films bring this in where they show her as just basically batshit crazy. Hello, maybe being on 30 pharmaceuticals had some part to play in being bad shit crazy.

2:14:45Jay DyerSometimes saw his father hit his mother when she was screaming and he felt she needed to be calmed, but never brutally and never with malice. The domestic scene was by no means unusual or malignant. Yeah. We'll be coming to that later. Joyce's mental condition would only get worse, and on multiple occasions, Lionel would have Joyce institutionalized where she surely be treated with more medications and therapy. It be noted though that Joyce never had a history of mental health issues or drug abuse before meeting Lionel. They were the same age when they met on the campus of Marquette, and soon after they met, they would marry

2:15:15Jay DyerNow this guy's documentary series places a lot of suspicion on Lionel, and I I think a lot of that is justified. I'm not saying that any of this proves that Lionel mind control program the sun. We don't know that. But there's definitely a lot more going on with Lionel than the media portrayed or showed. And there's a lot of things that Lionel says that don't line up.

2:15:39Jay DyerAnd just as quickly, Jeff would be conceived. According to Joyce, it was after the beginning of her pregnancy, that she saw Lionel for who he was. Without realizing it, I was drawn to a man very much like my father, a man as controlling and just as abusive.

2:15:58Speaker 7And the caption

2:15:59Jay DyerNow Lionel comes off as the very unassuming, sweet, soft sort of beta man, which is weird because that's how he's always acting in the interviews. You know, there's a plethora of interviews out there for for many, many, many years. But when it gets to the point where Lionel's describing his early fascination with hypnosis and mind control, yeah, that's real. That's the that's the part that's really weird. Right? Like, why is this very sweet unassuming, soft beta male dude, this nerd, with a PhD in chemistry. He's obsessed with mind control.

2:16:33Jay DyerThat's very bizarre.

2:16:35Speaker 7Underneath says, the house in which mister Dahmer has admitted to his first murder.

2:16:42Speaker 7And I thought, Jeff's dad killed somebody.

2:16:45Jay DyerThe home was no refuge for Jeff, who would soon bike the streets and begin collecting animal carcasses and running experiments and dissections on them in the shed off the side of the house.

2:16:53Jay DyerThis being all under the nose...

2:16:55Jay DyerThis, by the way, is around the time that also Jeff had experienced the reported abuse incident. Right? So there's this the the... It was reported, I think, to the... A later probation officer that Jeff had experienced this neighbor

2:17:13Jay DyerSA him. Another boy, an older boy SA ed him when he was eight. This is around the time when there's also this change in his

2:17:22Jay Dyerattitude. His parents supposedly. Lionel would state on multiple occasions that he never knew Jeff was running the

2:17:27Jay DyerNo. I understand beta dudes can definitely be creeps. Absolutely. I'm saying that that might be what's going on with Lionel.

2:17:35Jay DyerExperiments.

2:17:36Speaker 4Hey,

2:17:36Jay Dyeryou talk freely there?

2:17:38Speaker 6Uh-huh.

2:17:38Speaker 7Okay. Do you remember ever me participating with bones when you were

2:17:44Speaker 7interested in bones? No. And were we eating chicken one and you asked what would happen if we bleached the bones? No.

2:17:53Jay DyerThis is Lionel, the dad calling and talking to Jeff.

2:17:56Speaker 7K. So I never participated, so to speak, in, you know, putting bleach in a pail No. And working with bone, bones No. Did I ever describe anything to you? Not that I Not that there's anything wrong with that because that could be just scientific curiosity,

2:18:13Speaker 4you

2:18:13Speaker 7know? No. Nothing that I remember. I pretty

2:18:15Speaker 6much

2:18:16Jay DyerYeah. I understand. But so people are saying, well, what about Kay Griggs? She says that

2:18:21Jay DyerMcVeigh, Qarash,

2:18:24Jay DyerDahmer were mind control and had... But, again, I the problem is that with a lot of the conspiracy people that come out and say this kind of stuff, like, they'll also say all kinds of batshit crazy stuff, which undercut their line of argumentation.

2:18:38Speaker 4Right?

2:18:38Jay DyerSo, yeah, some familiar with Kay Griggs. And I'll... I mean, I just... We just can't verify and prove a lot of those people's claims. That's why it's almost like it hurts the testimony or the thesis when you go to these kinds of people. And I'm trying to remember exactly what k Greggs says, but I haven't watched this in many years. But doesn't she also say some, like, retarded stuff too? Does she talk about lizard people on underground bases? I mean, it just makes look retarded. There's no lizard people on underground bases.

2:19:11Speaker 4Right?

2:19:19Jay DyerDang, dude. This is a eight hour interview? Good grief.

2:19:25Speaker 6So

2:19:29Jay Dyernow I'm not saying that means that everything she's saying is wrong.

2:19:32Jay DyerThey don't have the AI thing where you can fast forward to sections. Let's see.

2:19:38Speaker 7Your name

2:19:39Jay DyerSometimes there's the ask AI where you can fast forward, but it doesn't exist here.

2:19:50Jay DyerDoes anybody know where she talks about Dahmer? Because I would be interested to hear that clip. But

2:20:19Jay DyerAnd I think... So she did testify against her husband who was a military guy, colonel or something. And then

2:20:28Jay Dyershe claims he was, like, super mind controlled or something. I mean, does anybody have in the chat where she talks about that? Because I mean, it's a it's eight hour interview, dude. We need some kind of, like, timestamp or something. But see, the problem with a lot of these women that come out as the whistleblower types is that they'll then just say the craziest shit. Right? They'll start talking about aliens and underground bases. They'll go full David Ike. Right? Like, remember Arizona Wilder? Right? She was interviewed by David Ike, and

2:21:00Jay Dyerso I might be mixing with Arizona Wilder, but if you have a time stamp where she talks about it, I would be

2:21:10Speaker 7I was doing things in my own little world. All to yourself.

2:21:14Speaker 7Yeah.

2:21:15Jay DyerNeither did they know that around this time Jeff discovered he was gay. When a neighbor boy younger than himself initiated a sexual encounter with their son that he did not reject.

2:21:24Speaker 7Oh, was he age 13 when you had I guess it was a homosexual experience. How did that happen? Who initiated that? We both did sort of. I don't remember who actually initiated it. We were both quite comfortable with it. Both of you. Sort of at the same time initiated. Yeah. And was it always... It was just light. Kiss

2:21:43Speaker 6kissing

2:21:44Speaker 7and kissing. Nothing didn't go beyond that.

2:21:46Jay DyerDon't masturbation. No. So here is Jeff admitting that there was this youthful experience of Skittles stuff. Right? So that we... This is also confirmed by Jeff himself. I

2:21:55Speaker 6don't know. Not that

2:21:56Speaker 7I

2:21:56Speaker 6remember.

2:21:57Speaker 7And I didn't even think of telling me or or mom The hell no.

2:22:01Jay DyerThis, of course, will be one amongst many things about Dahmer's own life that he cannot recall. We will get to his missing memory quite shortly. Sherry, Jeff's later stepmother that married Lionel just as quickly as he had gotten divorced, would later state in the paper she always thought Lionel guided Jeff on these experiments. If true, then before Jeff even reaches high school, he would already have the skill set to commit his later crimes. Being in close contact with death, a smell hardly possible not to recognize, running chemical experiments on the corpses, and stealing for himself a collection of bones, all under the noses of those that he lived with.

2:22:33Jay DyerBut that, of course, is not all he would do.

2:22:36Speaker 5Jim

2:22:36Speaker 8Kipple was Dahmer's neighbor for ten years, but never a friend. In fact, when Dahmer was arrested Tuesday, Kipple had to dig into his high school yearbook to remember who Dahmer was.

2:22:45Speaker 4The kids around the neighborhood, got together, but never never really remember him. You know? He was always at home and played himself a

2:22:53Speaker 8lot. Kipple however does remember a gruesome discovery he made seventeen years ago while walking with his younger brother in a wooded area about a half mile the Dahmer home.

2:23:02Speaker 4I walked up and then I realized that it was a dog.

2:23:04Speaker 4And a pretty good sized carcass

2:23:06Speaker 6and...

2:23:07Jay DyerNow this is the beginning of his interest in what appears to be the occult, and there's a couple things that seem to verify this. We'll look at that. I'm trying to find where Kay Griggs talks about this. It says that it's

2:23:22Jay Dyerat the nine fifty mark but that seems a little too soon. I don't think she... Would she say it this early? Let's see what she says.

2:23:32Speaker 3General Jim Joy

2:23:34Speaker 4Uh-huh.

2:23:35Speaker 3And general Carl Steiner are... They're evil men.

2:23:42Speaker 3And they are in this diary meeting with my husband almost every day in Beirut.

2:23:50Speaker 3They

2:23:51Jay DyerOkay. So people are saying she does not talk about the alien stuff? I mean, I haven't looked at this in, like, ten years. I don't remember what she talks about. Other than she does talk about, like, mind control. But I'm trying to figure out where in this seven hour she talks about. She says, Dahmer, Kazinski, McVeigh,

2:24:10Jay Dyerbecause they had a sexually deviant back backgrounds, particularly homosexuals. They were actually sought out and profiled by the military. I mean, that does definitely seems to be the case with Dahmer because he was stationed in Germany where they had those

2:24:24Jay Dyerwomen unalived, and Jeff was a main suspect of that for many years.

2:24:32Jay DyerWhere is the... I need a timestamp, though, you guys. I wanna hear that part. But this is a freaking eight hour interview. That's crazy.

2:24:38Speaker 8It had been ripped open. You know?

2:24:40Speaker 4Gutted, you know, all over the... Guts hanging around and and decapitated in the head was actually on a tree. Like online,

2:24:47Speaker 8it was a real strange thing because there was a

2:24:48Speaker 4a cross and the dog hanging and then the head behind it on a tree. And then there was actually a path going down

2:24:54Speaker 8a little fire. Like, it looked like a devil were

2:24:57Speaker 4or whatever they do in that.

2:24:58Jay DyerThis would be, as far as we know, Jeff's first occult ritual. At just 13 years old, everything would now be in place for Dominic.

2:25:05Jay DyerSo

2:25:05Speaker 7that's

2:25:05Jay Dyerthe the dog carcass thing that we mentioned.

2:25:08Speaker 4Wanted

2:25:08Jay Dyerto To be, as far as we know, Jeff's first

2:25:12Jay DyerAnd this comes from the neighbor, Kipple, that discovered this. Kipple said he and his girlfriend found a dog head impaled on a stick. The dog had been skin and gutted. It was about a 100 yards away. There was a large fire in 13 small fires made around it.

2:25:25Jay DyerAs if it was a cult setting. Now, there will also be other, the prom date will also confirm in another case. Of his teenage occultism dabblings. We'll get to that in a moment.

2:25:44Jay DyerAnd then it says

2:25:47Jay DyerI heard stories in this area that there were things

2:25:51Jay Dyerthe animals were being killed. I don't know if it was, but it seemed like wouldn't be because he was a nice quiet kid, but this was in the neighborhood. Since the study cited by FBI Academy and Quantico aimed at profiling serial killers committed homicidal... Homicide action... Homicide blah blah blah. Many of these in overwhelming numbers seem to have been

2:26:13Jay Dyersexually abused as children. This means that they didn't... Then do not bond with the parents. And this makes them suddenly aloof, cold, and uncaring. That's exactly what happened with Jeffrey.

2:26:33Jay DyerRitual. At just 13 years everything would now be in place for Dahmer to become the Milwaukee cannibal. Bear with me while we take a short break from the Dahmer story to tell you about a few things that took place in the nineteen seventies.

2:26:46Jay DyerNow this is important. This is gonna rehearse some of what we looked at the other day. With the history of MK Ultra and Gary Heidnik being stationed right next to Dahmer at the same time. So we got two serial killers stationed in Germany right around same time, which is to me very fascinating.

2:27:03Jay DyerThat will be quite relevant. Trust me.

2:27:06Speaker 4By the early nineteen seventies, word of the CIA's mind

2:27:10Speaker 9control atrocities began to leak out to the public. An investigation was launched resulting in the creation of one presidential commission and two senate committees.

2:27:19Speaker 7And my feeling now is that the CIA can

2:27:22Jay Dyeroverall powers

2:27:24Jay Dyerthat put them in a

2:27:25Speaker 8different situation than

2:27:26Speaker 7other people.

2:27:27Speaker 9The American public was in shock.

2:27:29Speaker 6I am a

2:27:30Speaker 7upset that the system is such that what happened could happen if

2:27:35Speaker 9Their search for answers, however, would soon hit a dead end as investigators learn that doctor Sydney Gottlieb had destroyed the majority of the documents relating to the MK Ultra program.

2:27:46Speaker 4It was

2:27:46Speaker 9now impossible for the American public to discover the truth. About what the CIA learned from its mind control research. Officially, the agency's position would be that 30 year of aggressive experimentation had yielded few, if any, productive results.

2:28:03Jay Dyer07/07/1975, a story was hitting the papers in each state in The US, each province in Canada, and broke in the Sunday Times in London. Here are just some of those headlines. Report a accuses navy of training assassins, psycho

2:28:16Jay DyerThis is the Thomas Neroute, information information that we already discussed, so I'm gonna skip ahead because we already covered that.

2:28:22Jay DyerTheir eyes open, forcing them to watch films and increasing Films

2:28:27Jay DyerNow you notice some of these articles go into great details as to what they were doing. So they're actually making these guys strap them down like Alex in Clockwork Orange, watching, like, the most hideous stuff.

2:28:39Jay DyerSpecially designed to show people being killed in in violent ways. According

2:28:44Jay DyerOkay. By the way, it looks like around two hours in... Let's see if she mentions Dahmer here, and we'll go back to the video.

2:28:50Speaker 3Single Palestinian. Not one single Muslim religious

2:29:00Speaker 3Saudi, you know, Jordanian,

2:29:03Speaker 3not one Christian president.

2:29:06Speaker 3Not one Roman

2:29:08Megan FoxCatholic,

2:29:10Speaker 3not one plain old American whatever from corn pone.

2:29:16Speaker 3Every single person in all of those were either Zionist, Israelis, whatever. And they had pictures all over the wall of Israel Israel, Israel. They had magazines, Israel Today, you know, I was given a copy of one.

2:29:35Speaker 3And there were yarmulkes, you know, and and

2:29:39Speaker 3the

2:29:41Speaker 3Israeli writing. In other words,

2:29:43Speaker 3and I I asked one of the women after having gone through about you know, four or five of these offices. I said... Because I was pretending like I really, you know, wanted I was just kind of wanting to know where where the Palestinian office was, you know. She said, well, we handle all that.

2:29:58Speaker 3We handle all that.

2:30:00Jay DyerI'm still trying to figure out where it is in this video. It says two two eight. Does that mean two minutes and eight seconds in? Surely not. Let's see.

2:30:10Jay DyerAnd then we want to, we wanna get this down

2:30:12Speaker 10a storyline because I think what we've got here is something that is extremely important for people to know about. Yeah. It

2:30:17Speaker 6is.

2:30:17Speaker 10Alright. Let's talk a little bit about you and and see now you. Where'd you start out your life? You were born and raised in the country? Yeah. I was

2:30:24Speaker 3I was raised on a on a farm. In fact, I live in the same neighborhood in which I grew up. It was my grandfather's farm. Part part of it was divided into thirds, but 1939 my grandfather was an obstetrician in Norfolk He was also in the naval reserves.

2:30:41Speaker 3He was in charge of military intelligence

2:30:45Speaker 3in in Norfolk, is the

2:30:47Jay DyerYeah. This is I've asked... I'm asking the AI, and it's not pulling up the right

2:30:54Jay Dyeris saying that she says in the interview United States military, people like Dahmer and hosts of others have a sexually deviant background. Homosexual, particularly these individuals are sought out by the military. So let me ask me try asking it that way instead of asking where does she talk about Dahmer. Where does she mention homo sexual?

2:31:38Jay DyerWow. Quite a bit. So

2:31:46Speaker 6High level people

2:31:47Jay Dyerparticularly also in the military, are promoted because they are homosexual This is a prerequisite for a lot of activities. Let's see where she talks about that. Let's see.

2:31:57Speaker 6One zero nine.

2:32:00Speaker 3A marine corps click. Rob, Warner, you know,

2:32:03Speaker 10all senator Rob.

2:32:04Speaker 6Yeah. They're

2:32:04Speaker 3all marines. Pat Robertson, all fourth marines. Mean, they're all involved in this. They know... They're running everything.

2:32:10Speaker 10Now you mentioned Pat You're talking about the seven hundred club Uh-huh. Pat

2:32:12Speaker 6Robertson.

2:32:13Speaker 3Yeah. There's a power thing there. And it's all male. It's all white. And they're... They do... They know the murders are going on. They're surgical. They're strategic. They're political. But I was going tell you is I was used because I was the most gullible in high school.

2:32:30Speaker 3And I'm very, very spiritual. And

2:32:33Speaker 3I love people. So... And I I was driven to meet all these people from over the world for some reason.

2:32:41Speaker 3So they would feed me people

2:32:44Speaker 3because they knew I would react. It's kind of like Monica and Bill. I think they put Monica in...

2:32:49Jay DyerIt's all white people running it. Sure. Five thirty three, is that where she says it?

2:32:56Speaker 3Long before I met George Briggs. Mhmm. It's my granddaddy's farm. The the house that I

2:33:00Speaker 10So

2:33:00Speaker 7your

2:33:01Speaker 10phone was being

2:33:01Speaker 3diverted? Absolutely diverted. It's electronic warfare. Mhmm. It's part of their deception. They have many levels, but it's all under a big operation. They have an operation now to totally ruin me

2:33:15Speaker 3His first wife was murdered.

2:33:17Speaker 10Now, you know, some of the things you're talking about here, this big operation. You've come to understand about the the largeness of it, the intricacies of it through a diary that you have. Is there... Could could you hold that diary up so we can Yeah. Get a get a look at that? And the thing that I found... This is the actual diary. Just hold it up kinda like a chest high.

2:33:35Speaker 3Okay.

2:33:36Speaker 6Alright.

2:33:36Speaker 10You

2:33:36Speaker 6go. And

2:33:38Speaker 10these

2:33:38Jay Dyerare the

2:33:38Speaker 10actual handwritten notes of your

2:33:39Speaker 3husband. Absolutely.

2:33:40Speaker 10And they reveal an awful... In fact, the... Does the military or those in intelligence community, do they realize you have a copy of this?

2:33:46Speaker 3They do now. Yeah. I had a phone conversation with general Jim Joy.

2:33:51Speaker 10How long ago was

2:33:52Speaker 3this? It was in

2:33:53Speaker 6February '96.

2:33:55Speaker 3I tried to ask the colonel. They knew I was I was on the move, trying to find information.

2:34:00Speaker 6Uh-huh.

2:34:00Speaker 3And Can my husband had mentioned general Jim Joy. Yeah.

2:34:04Speaker 10It's hitting the microphone Right? They're

2:34:05Speaker 6just... Oh, sorry. That's

2:34:06Speaker 3alright. Alright.

2:34:07Speaker 3And I called general. I had to

2:34:10Speaker 3call a general Miller in Jacksonville Uh-huh. Who was in my husband's address book Uh-huh. And told him I was looking for Christmas card lists and, you know, I I needed General Joy's telephone number because

2:34:22Speaker 3one of the colonels who

2:34:23Jay DyerNo. Because again, I don't know why this is so hard to find. Should be easy to find if she talks about it.

2:34:28Speaker 3Marine Corps click. Rob Warner, you know,

2:34:31Speaker 10You're senator Rob.

2:34:32Speaker 3Yeah. They're all

2:34:32Speaker 6marines.

2:34:33Speaker 3Pat

2:34:33Speaker 6Robertson, all

2:34:34Speaker 3fourth marines.

2:34:35Speaker 3Mean, they're spiritual, and they're... They do they know the murders are going on. They're surgical. They're strategic. They're political. But

2:34:46Speaker 3what I was gonna tell you is I was used because I was the most gullible in high school.

2:34:51Speaker 3And I'm very, very spiritual. And

2:34:54Speaker 3I love people. So... And I I was driven to meet all these people from all over the

2:34:59Jay Dyerworld. Yeah. I don't see... Where... I mean, it says she talks about Dahmer. I don't know why this is so this is ridiculous. It's it's hard to find it when it says she talks about it. But you can't actually find the quote over talking about it. This is driving me crazy.

2:35:18Speaker 6She talks about her husband's bisexuality.

2:35:25Speaker 6Marine Corps' bisexuality practices I

2:35:30Jay Dyerdon't know. I'm about to ready to give up with this.

2:35:34Jay DyerIf we can't find it, I don't know. Don't know why... I mean, I just played one zero nine fourteen.

2:35:41Speaker 6Twice. Amazing.

2:35:44Jay DyerDoctor.

2:35:45Speaker 4Nerut,

2:35:45Jay Dyerthey were establishing how to induce servicemen who may not be naturally inclined to kill to do so under certain conditions, and that's this clockwork style training is done to high end their dissociative powers with regard to killing. Previous research on those given awards for valor and battle has shown, according to doctor that the best killers are men with passive aggressive personalities. They are people with a lot of drive. Though they are well disciplined and do not appear nervous, who experience bursts of explosive energy when they can literally kill without remorse. Asked whether he was suggesting that murderers were being released from prisons to become assassins, he replied that it's happened more than once.

2:36:23Jay DyerShortly after this, Narut disappeared for a week from his home and his work to resurface and claim that what he had disclosed was only hypothetical, and the navy categorically did they were selecting assassins out of a pool of convicted murderers. Back in The States, multiple hearings had taken place with the primary aim of auditing the actions of the CIA, a, quote, from the New York Times. Admiral Turner said that the CIA had secretly supported human behavior control research at 80 institutions, including 44 colleges or as well as hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies. Drugs hypnosis and electroshock were all but a few of the methods used in

2:36:56Jay Dyerthe research of human behavior control. What was being exposed would be known as Project MK Ultra, an umbrella program that encompassed hundreds of subprojects taking place in every single prominent field.

2:37:07Speaker 6From the

2:37:08Jay DyerI

2:37:08Speaker 6think we... Most of you guys

2:37:09Jay Dyerknow this, so I'm gonna skip ahead past this part because he quotes the famous Esterbrooks paper about creating multiple personality is still in the DSMB.

2:37:20Jay DyerWe all know this stuff. So

2:37:22Jay Dyergonna skip back

2:37:24Jay Dyerto the Jeffrey section.

2:37:28Speaker 5Killing in serial fashion.

2:37:30Speaker 8In this particular case, most

2:37:31Speaker 5perplexing thing, of course, that the police encountered was a written message on the wall saying for heaven's sakes, catch me before I

2:37:37Speaker 7Okay.

2:37:38Jay DyerTT says he found it. 53250. Alright. Let's see if that's it.

2:37:47Speaker 6We got one

2:37:48Jay Dyerone AI saying that she never talks about Dahmer, one AI saying that she does. But it can't find it.

2:37:53Speaker 3Operation now to totally ruin me

2:37:57Speaker 3His first wife was murdered.

2:37:59Speaker 10Now, you know, some of the things you talked about here, this big operation. You've come to understand about the the largeness of it, the intricacies of it through a diary that you have. Is that could could you hold that diary up so we can Yeah. Get a get a look at that? And the thing that I found... This is the actual diary. Just hold it up kinda like chest high.

2:38:17Speaker 3Okay.

2:38:18Jay DyerThere you go. To me.

2:38:19Speaker 10Uh-huh.

2:38:20Speaker 3And

2:38:22Speaker 3so I I got this general Jim Joy who was the one who was in the operation just Cause... It was Just Cause, the one in Panama. Mhmm. He was in charge of all the psychological operations, the booming music, that they hit Noriega Westbrook.

2:38:37Speaker 6Uh-huh. And

2:38:38Speaker 3told him I was looking for Christmas card list, you know, I I needed General Joy's telephone number because

2:38:44Speaker 3one of the colonels whom I trusted...

2:38:46Jay DyerI don't think this is it....

2:38:47Speaker 3Like, lied to me. Captain Phil Hallwager lied to me.

2:38:56Speaker 10Does the military or those in the intelligence community, do they realize you have a copy of this?

2:39:00Speaker 3They do now. Yeah. I had a phone conversation with general Jim Joy.

2:39:05Speaker 10How long ago was this?

2:39:06Speaker 3It was in February '96. I tried to ask the colonels. They knew I was I was on the move, trying to find information.

2:39:14Speaker 6Uh-huh.

2:39:15Speaker 3And General

2:39:17Jay DyerJim Joyce. Is he trolling me? Because I'm really trying to find this.

2:39:21Jay Dyer53315. I mean, I thought I just played that. Let's see.

2:39:28Speaker 10Hold that diary up so we can Yeah. Get a get a look at that. And the thing that I found, this is the actual diary. Just hold it up kinda like a chest high. Okay. There you go. And these are the actual handwritten notes of your husband.

2:39:42Speaker 6Absolutely.

2:39:42Speaker 10And they reveal an awful... In fact, the... Does the military or those in the intelligence community, do they realize you have a copy of this?

2:39:48Speaker 3They do.

2:39:49Jay DyerDude, it's not at 05:33 fifteen, man. Come on.

2:39:55Jay DyerIs he just trolling me? Is that guy trolling?

2:40:02Jay DyerI'm playing it because the guy is suggesting what the timestamp is. Why do you think I'm playing it? Why is he playing it over? Because I'm trying to figure out... Because you can't slide across the an eight hour stream

2:40:18Jay DyerWhy am I such a slow boy? I'm trying to find the quote, dude, because it matters to me if she actually said this or not.

2:40:31Speaker 3Now Yeah. I had a phone

2:40:33Jay DyerNo more. I cannot control myself.

2:40:35Jay DyerJeffrey got to me personally. Jerry Boyle, his defense attorney, asked me to test on his behalf. Mister Boyle? This nice, pleasant young man, How do you explain it? When we sat down to talk, I was surprised to see how quick Jeffrey Dahmer opened up. I asked him his his feelings when all this was happening and and, you know, was he really en... Enamored and into this sort of thing? He said, no. He said, was like like... He was

2:41:00Jay Dyeroperating in a mechanical fashion and and it was as if he was looking down at himself and watching this occur. This is a clear indication of dissociation. Dissociation carried out to its end would be multiple personality disorder. It was like there were two gifts. One was into the horror of it all and the other was standing

2:41:23Jay DyerOkay. We did find it. She says it at 05:33 nineteen. I did play it on my other computer, so she does say that. I do wanna hear what she has to say because this was 1998, so this would predate Dave McGowan by For what? Six years. So she says it right here. And it's hard to find this because it's an eight hour long video. So you can't... If you barely move the mouse, it skips past all these parts.

2:41:57Jay DyerSo this is where she says it. I did her say it on this this clip. Let's see.

2:42:00Megan FoxLogically profile them. The profile which is similar to my husband's and Lee Harvey Oswald's and MacVays and and some of the others who were all part of this program. Domler... Jeffrey Domler was

2:42:17Jay DyerShe just misplug... That's why the AI couldn't have found it because she said... Find it. She said, Dommer. She meant to say Dommer. That's why it was hard to find.

2:42:24Megan FoxProfiled and hidden. You know, they

2:42:27Megan Foxwhat what most Americans do not know is that all of these men know

2:42:31Jay DyerJeffrey Delmer, he has a military background?

2:42:33Megan FoxOf course. They're all army. Oh, okay. They were all picked out because they're perverted or twisted.

2:42:39Jay DyerOh. Yeah. Sexually perverted.

2:42:41Megan FoxSexually perverted and therefore

2:42:44Megan Foxyou know Yeah. Well, now I I don't think McVeigh was was perverted the way Daimler was, but certainly, the the group that my husband is over are twisted.

2:42:57Jay DyerSo they... Part of the... Wow.

2:43:21Jay DyerHere's her saying this six years before Dave McGowan wrote about it, which is pretty crazy, and she did testify against her high level marine husband. So that's pretty fascinating that it is in this interview. So I appreciate you. The patience is worth it to see. If she actually said... So she's saying that some of these key figures

2:43:39Jay Dyerare part of military programs to train and create assassins.

2:43:42Jay DyerAnd watching.

2:43:44Jay DyerLionel And by the way, we know those exist. Right? Not just Thomas Narritt with the Navy, but, I mean, the Phoenix program was explicitly that on record. We all know that

2:43:52Jay Dyernow. And Jeff both completely deny any such

2:43:54Jay Dyerabuse We know that Jeff was in the phoenix program, but he was stationed at the same base where another phoenix program

2:44:01Jay Dyerassassin came out of, namely Gary

2:44:04Jay Dyeroccurred. The way Jeff turned out and the crimes he committed was all

2:44:08Speaker 3a freak occurrence. Wrestler, in fact, did not testify and not a single posited the idea that Jeff was suffering from MPD when it was quite clear he had symptoms that would be hard to dismiss with a better explanation. No explanation is for Jeff waking up next to the body of his second victim, whom he had apparently murdered by bashing his chest with his fists in a blacked out state that left him with no memory.

2:44:31Jay DyerHe totally

2:44:31Megan Foxblacked out.

2:44:32Jay DyerYeah.

2:44:33Speaker 4You had no idea that you had done

2:44:35Speaker 5anything? No. Until I woke up in the morning. I couldn't believe it. How

2:44:39Speaker 4did you know he was

2:44:40Speaker 5dead at

2:44:40Speaker 4check his pulse?

2:44:41Speaker 5Right. No. And there was blood coming out of the mouth. Apparently, I had

2:44:47Speaker 5beaten them with my fists on the chest.

2:44:51Jay DyerNope. So now again, it's not true simply because Dahmer says it. Right? Because serial killers lie, obviously.

2:44:57Jay DyerAnd

2:44:57Jay Dyera lot of these guys exaggerate their their big fish stories and their criminal adventures. But he is saying that in this first murder, I recall not recalling. So he's saying I dissociated and woke up, and this had happened. I didn't even I didn't have any recollection of this. So again, just for the record, he claims that he dissociated.

2:45:20Speaker 3Explanation is given for the variation in each of his confessions, which, again, I must remind you, were dictated by the detectives from their memory instead of being recorded, which was common practice by then.

2:45:35Speaker 5We didn't tape

2:45:36Speaker 3his discussions, did you? No. I did not.

2:45:39Speaker 6There's no phonographic recording

2:45:41Speaker 5of them. No. There isn't. There

2:45:44Speaker 6is no other type of of of... Other other than your your typewritten note, we have no other record of his discussions with you, detective Kennedy, the other officers. Correct?

2:45:55Speaker 5That's correct. Other than our notes in our regular

2:45:58Speaker 6Sure. I understand it. Alright. Question. Sixty hours you had not put down every single solitary question and answer on paper that was asked to mister Dahmer during that sixty hours. No. We didn't. Of course.

2:46:11Speaker 5You

2:46:12Speaker 6had to make judgment calls as to what was important sufficient important that you put it down when you thought it was. Things that weren't important, you didn't. Right?

2:46:19Speaker 5As

2:46:20Speaker 6correct.

2:46:21Jay DyerYes. So there was a great episode in season three of Millennium about a military created mind control circuit. In fact, the whole season... The whole show millennium was actually about this this program. Right? If you don't remember, it's a great show. I recommend all three seasons of Millennium with the X Files spinoff with Lance Henriksen. It's basically, the creation of serial killers accidentally, but then are used by a program that's intended to create high acute shoulder So they take high IQ children, put them in this program, and they realize that the, tweaking of the kids also at times goes haywire and it creates serial killers. But then they can use these serial killers if needed. So that's actually the... You're absolutely correct. I wrote an article about that, by the way.

2:47:07Jay DyerI think I put it in as Sir Hollywood three. It's normal. Please proceed.

2:47:11Speaker 5That's

2:47:12Speaker 3correct. Jeff can't remember the six hours previous to his arrest. As described by the second and last survivor at the Oxford Apartments whom we can presume saw everything many of the victims saw.

2:47:22Jay DyerYeah. Brian, we were gonna get to that. The reason why we mentioned the video cameras in Dahmer's apartment is precisely because, presumably, this could have been SNUFF stuff, and that's also never been mentioned and it's been downplayed.

2:47:35Speaker 3For their deaths, Jeff would switch between multiple people. Tracy would go as far as to say, this was an interchange and not the result of Jeff's consumption of alcohol.

2:47:45Speaker 6You know that some people, when they have too much to drink change their moods. Was that the kind of mood changes he was having or a different kind of mood

2:47:51Speaker 5change? I think that's was, like, more of an inner mood.

2:47:53Jay DyerNow this is one of the black dudes, the Skittles dudes that hung out with him, and he says that Jeff definitely would have other personalities popping off. I think Jeffrey Don was possessed. Ob...

2:48:04Speaker 5Chains than alcoholic mood chains.

2:48:06Speaker 6What kind of mood... It's like inner mood? Yeah. Person change, not not alcohol change.

2:48:12Speaker 3These changes were also brought on by the viewing of The Exorcist three. That Jeff would put on to get in the mood. And with the testimony of Trace Edwards, his desire to be possessed through the viewing of the film.

2:48:25Speaker 6Parts of the movie that was going on that you saw that he said anything about?

2:48:30Speaker 6It was like the part about the preacher

2:48:33Speaker 5that used to be a preacher that had got possessed

2:48:36Speaker 5and that

2:48:39Speaker 6and that it was seemed like he was like

2:48:42Speaker 7interested in that part. That part had his attention more than anything.

2:48:46Speaker 6Tell us about what you mean by that. What impressions were made upon your mind when this was going on as to had his attention? How he... How did he appear to

2:48:55Speaker 5you?

2:48:55Speaker 7He appeared like

2:48:57Speaker 7like it was like he wanted to mimic it or be like that part, you know, being demonized or whatever in that nature.

2:49:03Jay DyerNow, for those who don't know, Exorcist three is about the Gemini killer. It's a serial killer who gets demonically possessed and then sort of has an apotheosis through that. The the demon, by the way, can hop into different people. There's a a priest that gets demonically possessed, and then the demon goes into the main characters of actor Brad Dorff, who's the Gemini killer. So it's interesting that his favorite movie was a movie about a demonically possessed serial killer. And according to this black dude that would

2:49:34Jay Dyerhang out with him and watch this movie with him, Dahmer would watch the exorcist just rocking back and forth. And have other personalities or spiritual sort of come out.

2:49:45Speaker 5With

2:49:46Speaker 3the cause of such symptoms, with many more examples to come throughout the video, being abuse at an early age, it is a wonder there are no signs or reports of Jeff being abused at any time in his childhood. Well, it just so happens there are. In the records of Jeff's parole officer Donna Chester was the discussion she So

2:50:02Speaker 5it

2:50:02Jay DyerI I remember correctly. It's the parole officer says he was.

2:50:06Speaker 3Had with a family member of the Dahmer family in April nineteen ninety. On the topic of Jeff's clear sexual dysfunction, he speculated that it may have something to do with an incident that occurred when Jeff was eight. What the man told Donna was that Jeff had been molested by an older boy in the neighborhood, and that this may have had something to do with his sexual perversions. This man was none other than Lionel Dahmer himself.

2:50:27Speaker 6The observations of his probation officer contained in this

2:50:31Speaker 8100 page file obtained by channel two. In November 1989, while still spending nights and weekends in jail, he was found to be drinking. In April 1990, a month after his release on probation, he frequently missed appointments with his officer. He repeatedly had to be threatened with arrest At the same time, his father told authorities Dahmer had been abused by a neighbor boy at the age of

2:50:52Speaker 3eight. Given the hundreds of people Jeff says he's with, there are surprisingly few who step forward to say that they have been with him. Back with Jeff's crimes were first revealed to the world, many near the case were associated with it were making the rounds on talk shows, and soon, one man would come forward to talk about his experience with Jeff in 1985. Going under the pseudonym Nick and having his ident

2:51:14Jay DyerWell, the incident with the dog carcass is not the first perhaps, alleged occult situation, because we don't know for sure if that was was Jeff, but we know that at that time, he had a fascination with carcasses. So... And and obviously, in that neighborhood is probably him. But we don't know for sure. But when we get to high school, there's gonna be a specific incident with with satanism that that I think confirms Jeff's interest in the occult.

2:51:47Speaker 3Be masked, he would disclose something that cuts the show short.

2:51:50Speaker 8First, let me just ask Nick, 31 years old. Is it fair

2:51:54Speaker 9to say, Nick, that you were Jeffrey Dahmer's former lover?

2:51:57Speaker 5Her At the time that I met him, it was more off as a a relationship semi regular

2:52:05Speaker 9How long did it last then?

2:52:07Speaker 10It began in the end of June, beginning of July in 1985, two months, two and a half months.

2:52:16Speaker 8You had a question

2:52:16Speaker 9for

2:52:17Megan FoxNick? Yes. I do. Because there's been some conflict, Nick.

2:52:20Speaker 11Don't want to pry into your affairs too much, but this is really bothering me. When this story first broke, in the papers, I still have family in Ohio. And I kept up with this very closely. That that Jeffrey been molested when he was eight years old by a neighbor. And that once when he was with you, he got drunk and told you that indeed it was his father and not a neighbor who molested him.

2:52:48Speaker 9Is that Trunic?

2:52:50Speaker 10Yes. It is.

2:52:52Jay DyerJeffrey Dahmer

2:52:53Speaker 9told you that his father

2:52:53Speaker 10molested

2:52:54Speaker 9him?

2:52:55Speaker 10In the course of

2:52:56Speaker 5our

2:52:57Speaker 10relationship, I guess, I was in inquisitive into the background of his life because he had no He did, but he did not claim any. He had a lot of hate and nothing good to say about it, and there were a time I asked, what was your first sexual experience, basically, to find a...

2:53:20Speaker 5Now

2:53:20Jay Dyerthis is... I think there's another one too. So this would then implicate Lionel. This is a person who alleged to have had relationships with Jeff. And if this is true, then they were lying or covering up

2:53:35Jay DyerLionel's abuse. But, again, we don't know because this just a random dude who's claiming to have had these relationships. Yes. You're right that he would... Those people with Halcyon, and we'll get to that here in a moment.

2:53:48Speaker 10Way, you know, how it developed into homosexual or heterosexual, etcetera. And he broke down, he told me for several, several years that he was abused by by his father sexually.

2:53:58Speaker 9Is his father still alive?

2:53:59Speaker 4His

2:53:59Speaker 11father's still alive.

2:54:01Speaker 9Alright. Then I've gotta say this. I've gotta say his father's not here to defend himself. We're hearing one side of the story. We we make no no statement as to the veracity of the charge the horrible charge you just heard, but I'm sure that Jack can factor that into his analysis.

2:54:13Jay DyerGeraldo don't put that dude in a damn shower. Geraldo's wanting that dude... That gay dude to start showering in that shower curtain there.

2:54:20Speaker 9Which comes next? I've gotta take break. I'm sorry.

2:54:27Speaker 3Next on the Phil Donahue show, he sits among the guests, though still going by Nick, He would be shut down immediately upon disclosing his story once again.

2:54:36Speaker 5And

2:54:36Speaker 10I I think it was for a reason that in the relationship, asking certain things, but not draw it on, I asked him where his first sexual experience was.

2:54:48Jay DyerYeah. We mentioned Israel Keyes in the last stream. Right? Because he leaves the military. He goes into the military, a Christian supposedly. Evangelical. His mom was Amish or whatever, and then he comes out a total satanist. Then he becomes one of the most infamous serial killers. So, yes, we did talk about Israel Key's on the previous serial killer stream.

2:55:09Speaker 10His first actual experience was with his father.

2:55:12Speaker 8He he said to you,

2:55:14Speaker 10yes. Absolutely. This is without

2:55:16Speaker 8proof we should say that.

2:55:17Speaker 5I

2:55:18Speaker 8mean, if we're going to be responsible at all, we should

2:55:20Speaker 8That's true, but I see... Anywhere would remind the the jury that this is hearsay. That's

2:55:25Speaker 9alright.

2:55:25Speaker 8I I I thank you for your contribution

2:55:27Speaker 3here. I'll leave it to you to determine if Nick was telling the truth. Lionel attended many top ranking universities in his studies and immediately get a job at a prominent chemical company upon the completion of his schooling. His environments would undoubtedly be trolled by intelligence.

2:55:40Jay DyerYes. The guy's wearing a disguise. So when he went on Geraldo, he was behind that damn shower. And then he was wearing a disguise for Donahue.

2:55:48Speaker 3But there's no proof that Lionel would be interested in anything of the sort documented in the papers released on Bluebird artichoke, MK Search, or MK

2:55:56Jay DyerNow this is the interesting part about Lionel's fixation on hypnosis.

2:56:00Speaker 3Ultra. Right? As we are told, Lionel was so consumed with his work and so confused on how to deal with Joyce, he had no time for his sons. And as a result, Jeff was neglected by both his mother, and his father. All of the years of Jeff's life, as he slipped into madness, his father was blinded by his marriage and his work. He wouldn't notice his sons smote like dead animals, or see any signs he was digging around in them and collecting the bones to clean in his shed using his chemicals, he wouldn't notice Jeff was an alcoholic by the time he was a freshman. Jeff's

2:56:27Jay DyerYeah. This is the weird part is that Lionel was supposedly so consumed with work and crazy wife drama that he didn't notice any red flags at all in Jeffrey Dahmer.

2:56:40Speaker 3Come on. Interest in the occult as shown by his makeshift sacrifices in the woods also wouldn't be noticed by Lionel. Who claims he raised

2:56:47Jay DyerYeah. I don't know if, Brian, if you and the chat, if you're behind, but we already did and discussed the whole John Wayne Gacy, Dean stuff.

2:56:55Speaker 3His son Christian. It was a level of obliviousness or perhaps denial that was scarcely imaginable, and yet it was real.

2:57:02Jay DyerYou're saying Lionel Dahmer got a big job with defense contractor? I didn't know that. I know he was working at, Big Chemical. Companies.

2:57:10Speaker 3It was as if I had locked my son in a soundproof booth, then drawn the curtains, so that I can neither hear nor see what he had become. This line of thinking and level of tunnel vision would show itself even in Lionel's youngest years. Here's an excerpt from Lionel's book, A Father's Story. Released the same year Jeff was killed. One memory in particular returned to me. It concerned a little girl named Junie who lived across the street from me when I was a young boy. Around 12 or 13. One afternoon, I brought her up to my bedroom, lit a candle, sat her in front of it, and began to murmur the, you are getting

2:57:42Speaker 3sleepy phrases that I had learned from a book and record I'd sent away for some weeks before. They had dealt with hypnotism, and I had sent away for them because, in my own childlike way, I saw its mystifying powers as a means by which I could control people whom I could not otherwise control.

2:57:58Speaker 3Would allow me to turn them into hypnotized zombies so that I could do whatever I wanted with or to them.

2:58:04Jay DyerNow that's 13 year old Lionel being obsessed with hypnosis, which is bizarre. Right? I mean, it doesn't necessarily prove, obviously, that he is handler, but it does show a very

2:58:16Jay Dyerodd, youthful obsession with I want I want to control people. And I tried to mind control my neighbor.

2:58:23Speaker 3Junie was my first ex

2:58:26Jay DyerFirst experiment. So Lionel then, I guess, developed other experiments? That mean perhaps Jeff was an experiment? Again, we don't know. Perhaps the wife being on 30 meds.

2:58:38Speaker 3And when I brought her to my room that day, I intended to cast a spell over her so that I can control her entirely. With that goal in mind, I told Judy to stare at the candle, and she did so. I told her to close her eyes at the appropriate moment, and she did that too. I told her to breathe deeply, and she did. I told her to raise her arms over her head. She obeyed instantly. I remember that I felt exhilarated as I watched her. Felt truly powerful, truly in command of another human being.

2:59:05Speaker 3Junie was doing everything I asked. She was hypnotized. However, she fell off the chair and woke up. Later in life, I would often tell this story, but always lightly. As if it were simply a childhood adventure. Thus, even though I was later to make light of the story, it is clear to me now that the act itself betrayed a strong urge to control her.

2:59:25Speaker 3And so now

2:59:26Jay DyerI will say, by the way, that although we don't know if

2:59:29Speaker 9John

2:59:29Jay DyerDahmer was explicitly... He wasn't part of phoenix program, because when he was stationed in Germany, I think this was after Vietnam and the phoenix program, but I forget the exact year he was stationed in Germany. But we'll see that in a moment. But these programs could continue on Right? So we know that in the phoenix program, they did recruit and profile people, to do these types of things, including cannibalism. So there was a cannibal side of the phoenix program. And so this is why a lot of people have later on connected

3:00:00Jay Dyerthe returning vets as being some of these known serial killers. Right? So it appears to be the case that Philip Arthur Thomist was in the phoenix program, and he's the one that's connected to the octopus murder stuff. But

3:00:16Jay Dyereven if Dahmer is post phoenix program, he could be in some continuation of the phoenix program.

3:00:22Speaker 5Program.

3:00:23Speaker 3I remember this incident. I can no longer see it as a simple childhood prank, a harmless little boy dabbling in a newfound magic. Instead, I remember the sense of power that came over me as Dooney sank into her trance. I remember how much I liked controlling her, how much I enjoyed, however briefly, that sense of giving commands and having them instantly obeyed.

3:00:41Jay DyerNow it is interesting

3:00:42Speaker 5that

3:00:43Jay Dyerthat Lionel would admit this in his biography. Right? So... And by the way, why is he writing a book? To make money? Right? It... This is odd. Right? Because... Okay. So you're the dad of the most famous serial killer, and then you write a book to make money. Talking about how... By the way, I actually like mind control and having control over people. That's very sus to me. Very sus. I mean, if I was the father of a serial killer, I would be ashamed. You know what I mean? I wouldn't be writing books and cashing in on

3:01:16Jay Dyerthat suggests a potential, you know, monster himself. Right? And maybe he's a monster that cloaks his soft beta persona, right, when when inside he's a Patrick Bateman.

3:01:28Speaker 3Remember all of this as an event in my psychological history that suggests how much, even as a boy, I had yearned to control other people. How powerless I had often been made to feel in the presence of people I did not control.

3:01:40Speaker 3With the willingness to act on urges of such an extreme measure at such a

3:01:44Jay DyerAnd keep in mind, this is also not just Dave's book, but we did a whole talk on Doug Valentine's phoenix program book. Which is a very long technical book.

3:01:57Speaker 5It

3:01:57Jay Dyeris not a fun read. It's very technical, very long, but this is the book that sort of exposed the phoenix program. Which was the Vietnam era. William Colby Corp, by the way, is run by corporations too. It's a corporate program together with the CIA to create and control serial killers. So

3:02:19Jay Dyerwhen you hear corporations being involved, that's not... That's makes perfect sense potentially.

3:02:25Speaker 3Age and a disturbing amount of gratification at his success. Does it take much to wonder if Joyce's overuse of medication another motivation and force behind it? Especially in time in which a child was growing in the womb with up to twenty six pills a day coursing through her bloodstream. Was Lionel, a studying and later practicing chemist, truly blind to the effects that her medication might have had on Jeff?

3:02:46Speaker 5She was taking quite a few different types of medication. And...

3:02:52Jay DyerThat's Lionel talking to dad.

3:02:54Speaker 5Many pills of the same type of medication, a lot of pills. At the time, just before Jeff was born in the last trimester.

3:03:04Speaker 5And while I was trying to search every possible reason why Jeff turned out the way he did, one other things that crossed my mind, of course, was the effect of chemicals, biochemicals, on the brain, and especially just before birth. At times her legs would...

3:03:22Jay DyerWait. He said that? Woah. I missed this. Let's... Let me hear that again. He was studying this?

3:03:29Speaker 5Is that what he said? To search every possible... And while I was many pills of the same type of medication, a lot of pills. At the time just before Jeff was born in the last trimester.

3:03:45Speaker 5And while I was trying to search every possible reason why Jeff turned out the way he did, One of the things that crossed my mind, of course, was the effect of chemicals, biochemicals on the brain and especially just before birth. Yeah, you think?

3:04:03Jay DyerBut he's saying, well, I later thought about this. By the way, here is our thing from five years ago, my talk on the phoenix program. And I was

3:04:12Jay Dyerboomer Garcia at the beginning here. Right? Hey, man.

3:04:17Jay DyerYou wanna go into you wanna go into NAM, man? I described my experiences in Nam at the beginning of the phase program lecture.

3:04:28Speaker 9At times, her legs would lock

3:04:29Speaker 5tightly in place and her whole body would grow rigid.

3:04:34Speaker 13And begin to tremble. During these strange seizures, her eyes would bulge like a frightened animal. And she would begin to salivate, literally frothing at the mouth. Lionel describes a a a strange, undiagnosed problem. He describes it as some kind of a seizure. That you developed, a proneness to seizures late in the pregnancy where you had... He described it as a kind of rigidness for which you were prescribed medications. Do you do you remember that? Can you describe...

3:05:04Speaker 4I don't remember that at all. I don't... I can't imagine where that comes from. It isn't true. I don't... You don't

3:05:12Jay DyerSo Jeffrey, Bahnsen's mom, is saying that's made up. That's crazy.

3:05:17Jay DyerCall

3:05:18Speaker 13any... Anything like that? No. Seizures or seizure episodes?

3:05:21Speaker 4Absolutely not.

3:05:23Speaker 13There's an obvious discrepancy here between what you're and what Lionel was saying about the about the nature of the pregnancy. It was difficult. You both agree. But

3:05:30Speaker 13but he describes you in these states where

3:05:32Speaker 10you were

3:05:33Speaker 13as he says, literally frothing at the mouth.

3:05:36Speaker 4Are you

3:05:37Speaker 3We are left in the dark as to the possible influence that left this impression on Lionel. But by 13, we can clearly establish a foundational drive to find a means of control and a willingness to apply the science on unsuspecting victims. I would use a different word, but I'm not sure there's a more fitting one for what Lionel was doing. Would this up and coming chemist be blind to the possible application of his trade to establish just the ideal that enthralled him at such a young age, the ability to control someone entirely Given this desire, would his entry into the field of chemistry itself at a time in which the study of drug induced mind control is being mapped out by the education

3:06:09Speaker 3medical, and military institutions be something he would decline. And corp

3:06:13Jay Dyerinstitutions. That's the thing about it. Corporations also play a role in It's not just the government and the military. And psychiatric and prisons. It's also corporations involved.

3:06:24Jay DyerAnd other countries like Australia, which nobody knows about.

3:06:27Speaker 3Fine, if given the opportunity. If Junie was his first experiment,

3:06:31Speaker 3were his second, third, and fourth?

3:06:34Speaker 3Predictably, as the evidence accumulated and became increasingly gas I made myself believe that Jeff could not have done such things on his own. But that he had acted only as the tool of someone else, someone more evil than my son, someone who had taken advantage of Jeff's loneliness and isolation and had turned him into a terrible slave.

3:06:53Jay DyerSo there's Lionel saying that... And that just... He could just say, well, that's just because I wanted not believe my son could do this. But it's also interesting that if there is more going on, Lionel's saying, oh, he was a mind controlled slave. Really? Interesting terminology.

3:07:09Speaker 5That one week when everything... When when the circumstances were alright, lo and behold, what do I see? Just that one time, that one week, never again did I see anybody like that. It's almost like it was prearranged by someone. It's just so weird. I know. Someone or something

3:07:22Speaker 3During Dahmer's senior year, the family had finally fractured. After years of physical abuse, emotional distress, and iatrogenic drug use, which resulted in trips to the psych ward. Under court order, Lionel was sent out of the house and stayed at nearby motel with his soon to be wife, Sherry. Not long after this, Joyce or would take David and flee to a family member's house before moving out of the state entirely. All of this as Jeff's graduation and prom was right around the corner. Jeff, by now, was a full blown alcoholic. Sitting

3:07:49Speaker 5next to me.

3:07:49Jay DyerThis is where it's gonna get to the first documented certain... Or as far as we know,

3:07:56Jay Dyersatanic situation. Right? We have the potential dog head sacrifice thing, but we get to the high school era is when other students report a specific attempt at a seance with kind of occult paraphernalia.

3:08:13Speaker 11To him in a first period, I believe, history class, and he had a Styrofoam cup

3:08:19Speaker 14of scotch, believe it was scotch. I remember saying, Jeff, what is that? And he threw his head back and he shook it and he said, it's my medicine. But clearly he was getting drunk at 08:00 in the morning.

3:08:31Speaker 3And got high each chance he could, which would not be few and far between as he was friends with local drug dealer and occult practitioner, Jeff Six. Jeff Six was known to the Dahmer family and was even said to have been told to cut contact with Jeff by Lionel, after some jewelry went missing from the Dahmer household. Shortly after prom, Jeff invited his date back to his house with a few others, six likely being one of them, for what, to the understanding of the prom date, was a party. What this party turned out to be was a seance conducted to contact a spirit which now lived in Dahmer's house.

3:09:01Speaker 306/18/1978. Stephen Hicks is hitchhiking his way to a concert when a car pulls up beside him with a young man, Jeffrey Dahmer, behind the wheel offering him beers over at his house. With no at the house, Hicks and Jeff drank and smoked a little. According to Jeff's initial confession, only hours after his arrest, he states he and Hicks had sex, and once Hicks wanted to leave, they then got into a fight where Dahmer reached for a barbell and struck Hicks with it. He said,

3:09:25Jay DyerSo after the seance comes the first full gay sex event and the first unaliving.

3:09:33Speaker 3He meditated. As Jeff states, he walked up

3:09:35Jay DyerIt's a gay aunt. So he he done contacted some kind of evil gay spirit.

3:09:40Speaker 3For anything occult related, it was only for his own gratification. Of he kept a score of his father's car, which Jeff says he used to borrow to go to the movies earlier in the day. As Master says, Dahmer downed some more beers to muster up the courage.

3:09:53Jay DyerSo I'm gonna skip ahead because this just talks about drinking and

3:10:00Speaker 3find themselves in similar situations. Failed upwards. Later sent to Ohio to interview Dahmer, office

3:10:05Jay DyerYeah. This guy, alleges that that it's very suspicious because the cop pulled Dahmer over when he had the body in the trunk and didn't do anything, didn't suspect anything because Dahmer was drunk, but he still supposedly passed the drunk test. But anyway...

3:10:19Speaker 3Left with David. So if Lionel says Jeff didn't borrow his car and couldn't have borrowed Joyce's, whose car did he take? During this break, I attended a field party and bath with Mike and a few others. Surprisingly, Lloyd Figgs showed up and, as usual, was behaving like an annoying idiot. He danced around us babbling that he knew a secret. Finally, one of us said, okay, Fig. What secret? But then Fig clammed up and quickly van

3:10:42Jay DyerThat's just talking about that he knew that Jeff had killed somebody....

3:10:44Speaker 14Across America are playing with a new and frightening game, satanism.

3:10:48Speaker 3In the middle of a satanic seance with a pentagram drawn on the living room table and his friends pass out at the residence, his father came knocking after supposedly having no contact with Jeff since the time Joyce left. Little food, a broken fridge, and an alcoholic teenager in the middle of a ritual with his friends is what Sherry and Lionel

3:11:04Jay DyerHad come over. They did the seance, and this is right around the same time as a before he did his first

3:11:10Jay Dyermurder. Came upon that day. Violating the court order, Lionel would move back in and bring Sherry with him. Soon after, as Lyna would put it, he discovers Jeff's alcoholism. Before this point, he had no clue Jeff had ever even had a drink. So for years, while teachers and class mates witnessed his developing alcoholism, Lionel, who as at his described in his book found out because Sherry smelt the alcohol in Jeff's room from the hallway, never noticed such a smell himself.

3:11:34Jay DyerNever once noticed Jeff slur his speech, stumble around, or have any scent of alcohol on his breath. This is beside the fact he also became a habitual pot smoker, but I guess the pronounced smell of marijuana escaped Lionel's senses as well for years on end. Of course, it makes much more sense for Lionel to put the development of his son's alcoholism on the other side of his first murder. Something so traumatic would cause most to seek an escape. But of course, we know...

3:11:57Jay DyerI'm a skip ahead to where this guy sites Dave McGowan.

3:12:01Jay DyerWhile on a senior clash, trip to Washington DC, Jeffrey Dahmer made a call from a pay phone and then announced to his high school classmates that he had secured them an appointment to visit the office of the vice president of The United States. Though his friends

3:12:12Jay DyerHow does Jeffrey Dahmer call from a payphone? And get his entire high school class, who, by the way, thought he was a crazy spurge,

3:12:21Jay Dyeran audience with Walter Mondale.

3:12:24Jay DyerLike, that day. That's very

3:12:26Jay Dyerbizarre. Naturally, we're skeptical, Jeffrey did indeed lead them on a tour of Walter Mondale's office, followed by a visit to the office of prominent writer Art Butchwald. It has never been explained how the aspiring serial killer had established such impressive contacts in Washington, and it has never been revealed who it was Dahmer called that day to arrange the impromptu private tours. How Jeff knew the number to call and who to talk to is unknown. What is known is this is not not the first time a past, present, or future serial killer has gotten positive attention from those holding office.

3:12:56Jay DyerYeah. This is again another pattern that people have noted with

3:13:00Jay Dyerthe serial killers, particularly Henry Lee Lucas to the Bush administration

3:13:06Jay DyerTell who it

3:13:07Jay Dyerwas. To Ted Bundy Gom recalled that day. Because Ted Bundy was a rising GOP star

3:13:13Jay DyerTo arrange.

3:13:14Jay DyerTo John Wayne Gacy hanging out with Rose Carter.

3:13:19Jay DyerThe impromptu private tours. How Jeff knew the number to call and who to talk to is unknown. What is known is this is not the first time a past present

3:13:27Jay DyerYeah. He's going really fast here, and I'm trying to there's with Rose Carter, Jimmy Carter's wife. Chilling.

3:13:37Jay DyerAnd then

3:13:39Jay Dyersee, in less than a month after his time at Ohio State, Jeff would be to Anniston, Alabama for basic training at four for basic train DC For serial killer a past, present

3:13:48Jay DyerIt's going so fast. I can't... I'm trying to stop it on the Henry Henry Lee Lucas George Bush thing. Because that one's crazy.

3:14:01Jay DyerThe impromptu private tours. How Jeff knew the number to call

3:14:08Jay Dyerand... They just got

3:14:09Jay Dyerdrunk. To is unknown. What is known is this is not the first time it passed

3:14:18Jay DyerOkay. So yes, you heard me say this. George Bush commutes the death sentence of one of the most heinous serial killers ever.

3:14:30Jay DyerHenry Lee Lucas, the one connected to the Matamoros cult.

3:14:35Jay DyerThe one eyed drifter considered among the nation's most prolific serial killers was spared the death penalty by

3:14:43Jay DyerGeorge Bush,

3:14:45Jay Dyerwho commuted the sentence.

3:14:48Jay DyerThat's insane to me.

3:14:53Jay DyerWhy would he do that, by the way?

3:14:55Jay DyerPresent or future serial killer has gotten positive attention from those holding office. Seven months after Dahmer's trip to DC, in less than a month after his time at Ohio State, Jeff would be off to Anniston, Alabama for basic training at Fort McClellan.

3:15:09Jay DyerCook the flesh of those that died. Both Hieria Thomas share what

3:15:12Jay DyerNow look at this. Here's these crazy parallels. Mentioned this in the previous stream, the parallels with, Heidnik and Dahmer. And the parallels are just kind of mind blowing. Right? They're both stationed

3:15:26Jay Dyerin the same area of Germany. Now they're stationed... This is seventeen years apart, but if there is a program, this would be the program. They both joined the army.

3:15:38Jay DyerTrained as a military police.

3:15:42Jay DyerThey're both trained as medics, both stationed very close to each other in Germany, both work as orderlies in American... US based in Germany. Both come back

3:15:58Jay Dyerhaving connections to drug use, particularly with Heidenic, it's high powered hallucinogens. As his military records later reveal. Then he comes out, becomes, one of the most infamous serial killers and a collector, including boiling the flesh and eating it. He also became a pimp prophet. And then Dahmer comes back instead of being a pimp profit, actually eats black pimps. So there you go.

3:16:29Jay DyerIt's almost a mirrored experience. In 1961, Hynek would join the army, after initially requesting to become military police, he was denied and was trained as a medic at Fort Sam Houston. After Dahmer's basic training at Fort McClellan and all after being rejected from a military police position, he was also sent to Fort Sam Houston to train as a medic. In July 1979, Dahmer is sent off to West Germany to be stationed as a combat medic. Soon after Hieria completed his training, he was also sent off to West Germany. Both men were honorably dished

3:17:00Jay Dyerdischarged with full benefits. Both men would go on to do horrible things. Only difference being it was later found Hieria was actually experimented on in the army with LSD treatment. From Garie Heidnik's history, it was clear that his first psychosis was facilitated by a near lethal dose of hallucinogenic substance given to him while he was in Germany in the military. At the time when the CIA was reportedly conducting human experimentation, on our servicemen. His time back home would see him in and out of psychiatric hospitals. Yet he would also turn $1,500 into 500,000 in the stock market in short order.

3:17:31Jay DyerHieria is among many other

3:17:33Jay DyerYeah. And these are all, of course, the serial killers having an association with LSD and MK Ultra. You boy, chasm, obviously, Unabomber. Berkowitz as well. A lot of people don't know that includes Berkowitz. And Heidenich.

3:17:52Jay DyerThe pimp... No. The pimp profit is not just Ruzlan. There was an earlier pimp profit named Gary Heidnik, the cannibal serial killer. We'll read a few super chats because we've got quite a few here stacking up. We've been going for a while. I wanna at least... We're gonna get through this one. We wanna get started on the next one because this is a fascinating lengthy series. But I wanna try to knock it out. I don't wanna go too long with it. But Ross what's up? Welcome to the new members, spirit on, etcetera. What's up, Wiggers?

3:18:22Jay DyerKagan... Wait. Cagamite... Kaga Mitaiga, 20 I've been going through a lot of the old theology videos because I had questions laying on of hands of Paul to Timothy, and baptism in orthodoxy. Is that what baptism is? No. The laying on of hands is apostolic succession. Baptism is a different ritual. But after baptism, there's a laying on of hands, which is chrismation, But with what Paul's doing to Timothy, that is ordination bishops. Tony, $10. How does one stop from doom pilling

3:18:56Jay Dyerand becoming... Doom pilling into oblivion when looking into how controlled and fake history is. Well, this information is freeing. I know that doesn't sound

3:19:07Jay Dyervery... Mean, why are talking about... Well, understanding how we're lied to and understanding how the system actually works allows you to free yourself from the lies of the system. To then flourish and do well.

3:19:18Jay DyerFor example, for many years, I studied the conspiracy of the Federal Reserve and fiat money. And for many years, I thought, well, how do I get out of this? I guess I'll buy gold. Right? And then I realized in 2017, well, the better version of gold is Bitcoin. So monetarily, learning the conspiracy stuff allowed me to apply that to my economic understanding and my personal finances. And to establish a Bitcoin stack in 2017 up to now. So

3:19:51Jay Dyerlearning this kind of stuff can position you, even if you're learning learning this stuff now, not to get black pilled and doom pilled but to figure out ways, excuse me, to operate

3:20:05Jay Dyerin the face of reality to do well. And that includes not just financially, but in terms of learning the reality of how to interact with women so that you can find a woman. There are still good women. They're not all evil.

3:20:22Jay DyerThey're not all three out of wars.

3:20:25Jay DyerYou can still establish and create a business. You can still be successful. Being black pilled is one of the things that the establishment wants you to do so that you give up. So

3:20:36Jay Dyereverything that we talk about over here is not black pilling. It's so that you can be free.

3:20:44Jay DyerKega

3:20:47Jay Dyer$5. Do you think the movie Halloween with Mike Myers is the government's idea of a perfect serial killer? I think so. I mean, we did a little brief discussion of

3:20:58Jay DyerMichael Myers years ago when when we're doing one of our podcasts. I forget which forget which one it was. And I think we said he's kind of like the, you know, mental patient that's a perfect serial killer. And then I think even in in the series, I forget. I don't... I mean, they're all kind of the same, but Donald Pleasant is kind of like letting him run free. Right? That's like his his handler. But I like Halloween three a lot because it's another kinda you know, mind controlled pod people synthoid type of

3:21:28Jay Dyerstoryline.

3:21:31Jay DyerBut I don't know for sure if there's

3:21:34Jay DyerI don't remember if there's satanic stuff in Halloween. There could be. I just don't remember. You said there's a serial killer with a cult and runes. I just don't remember that part of I remember there's like a runes esoteric stuff going on with part three, cause that's witchcraft. And that's the notorious one that has

3:21:53Jay DyerMichael Myers isn't in it, but it's a John Carpenter one, which makes it fun. Rent in $10. I went out with a girl, and she's a friend of a friend. She was nice, but she said, what do you think about Clancy? The day didn't go well. The setup question is, she gets the death penalty. Well, I mean, again, I

3:22:14Jay DyerI I would... I mean,

3:22:17Jay Dyerit's just sad that

3:22:19Jay Dyernow all dates are gonna be determined on the basis of, like, criminal trials. It's just... I don't I don't have an answer for that. But 40 crushed by dollars. There's a horror movie Night of the Lepos that has doctor McCoy from Star Trek with giant deadly bunnies. Yes. In fact, night of leapers is a really funny episode of Riftrax. So if you've watched the RiffTrax, Night of the Lepos, I recommend it. It's a funny one.

3:22:43Jay DyerBut I am I am familiar, and I have watched it. Yes. We are still going to do the riffing of past Greg's Christmas movie. We just haven't gotten to it yet, but here it is. Oh, actually, whole thing is up for free. So you can watch the entire... Oh, night of the leaf... Lippos rift tracks here.

3:23:12Jay DyerHey. I'm going in

3:23:14Megan Foxthere. You can't

3:23:15Speaker 3do that. I haven't got a choice. But why? We're gonna blow it up right now. Whatever's back in there is a mystery. If we can't That's alright.

3:23:24Jay DyerAnyway,

3:23:25Jay DyerTwo would become infamous national figures after psychological experimentation was done on them. Of course, no such experimentation has been admitted for Dahmer. Dahmer's time in the military was marked by his excessive use of alcohol and his constant receiving of warnings to no avail. This is all documented in his records, which are accessed online. Of course, there is much not discussed or documented in the records. Soon after Dahmer's arrival in Germany, women in the surrounding area would turn up dead in brutal mutilation murders. In Daimler's confession, it is revealed his memory about a Thanksgiving night in Germany is vastly

3:23:57Jay Dyerdifferent than what was remembered by multiple people.

3:24:00Jay DyerThanksgiving in November 1979, Carlos Cruz and his wife invited some of the younger soldiers to share the traditional celebration dinner at their home. Among them was Dahmer and a soldier, named Preston Davis. While they were having dinner, the snow began to fall heavily outside. Crew suggested that it would be wiser for them all to stay the night. For some reason or other, and Davis fell into an argument, and Davis told him to get the back to bomb holder. Jeff decided to leave, and he quietly walked of the door into the snow at 10:30PM. Bomb holder was about eight miles distant. Around a mountain, and it was freezing cold. When crews realized what had occurred,

3:24:32Jay Dyerhe went out to search for about fifteen minutes but was driven indoors by cold to get heavier clothes. He went outside and looked for another half an hour before he finally get

3:24:40Jay DyerNow Yeah. Just to fast forward, this is the murders that happened in Germany. Near the base where Dahmer was, and, of course, Dahmer was a suspect. We have covered this many, many times, so I'm gonna skip past that. But that's what this is about. Yeah. This is an interesting point too about

3:24:59Jay Dyerrip rip Harambe says for $10. Dahmer would would not have killed people after that first kill if the idiot grandmother hadn't taken away his sex mannequin that they found and allowed him to get freaky with his Ken dollies out. See, that's the thing. Like, we're just being so hard on these guys. That if Dahmer's Calvinist, presbyterian grandmother hadn't taken away his hump mannequin from the basement when he was living with his grandmother, like, we would this have even been a problem?

3:25:25Jay DyerSee? Exactly. Great point. And by the way, we're overlooking the Calvinist background of Jeffrey. Right? He's got this grandmother. When he ends up living with his grandmother in grandmother's basement, she tries to get him into going to the Calvinist Presbyterian church and make him read the bible, and that just makes Dahmer all the more angry. And he even buys an Anton LaVey church of Satan or satanic bible at this time when he's living with his grandmother, his Calvinist grandmother. So Calvin... You can argue Calvinism drove him to be a satanic apex

3:25:59Jay Dyerpredator killer, which is what he was trying to be. And this is around the time when he begins to sketch out his altar. Or... Well, this... When he ends up in Milwaukee is when he sketches the altar, but we'll get to that here in a little bit. But, yeah, I didn't realize that he eventually gets a satanic bible, which is fascinating.

3:26:16Jay DyerWas along with Billy Cappshaw, a former army roommate of Dahmer's. Both make claims of being raped by Dahmer, but Cappshaw details much more gruesome crimes and the involvement of more than one man. Capp Shaw was beaten and raped and received full disability

3:26:30Speaker 4for what the army later admitted was his torture at the hands of his roommate. Engleman Cappshaw says he might not have been the only victim. Sometimes Dahmer would go out at night and come back the next morning his shirt soaked in blood.

3:26:44Jay DyerSo, again, his roommate are saying, yeah, this dude would go out on the military base in Germany and come back all bloody and by the way, he grapes me.

3:26:52Jay DyerIn the last two months of Dahmer's service, his drinking had gotten so bad he supposedly put on a program where he would be held in his room and not allowed to leave without an escort.

3:27:00Jay DyerSoon, Dameria March of eighty one would be discharged honorably with full benefits. Hieria would be discharged honorably as well, though he would receive full disability and did not even file for it. Other things had to be considered as well. Such as the army's desire to get Hieria out of the service with a full 18,000 people who file for mental disability get 100%. And only one in seventy nine thousand receive it for life. My client gets it for and he didn't want it. He didn't file for it.

3:27:28Jay DyerThat's crazy.

3:27:29Speaker 4Trying to figure out what the hell to do.

3:27:31Speaker 3That's

3:27:31Jay Dyerhigh by the way.

3:27:32Speaker 3What the to do. You know? I

3:27:36Speaker 4start chomping up the

3:27:37Speaker 3body.

3:27:38Jay DyerDahmer's feet soon landed in South Carolina being discharged and sent to Fort Jackson for debriefing.

3:27:43Jay DyerNot long after, he would be a beach bum in Florida. After being given the ability to go anywhere in The US, he

3:27:49Jay DyerShout out to Florida. What's up? We got our beach bummed down there, baby. Rui, $20. Thank you so much. Agnostic,

3:27:56Jay Dyer$10. Jay, have you looked into brain organoids? No. I don't know what that is. Funds the research. Basically, brain tissues are being hooked up to AI and used for computing Oh, yeah. I saw Lord Voldemort cover this, but I didn't really understand it, or I don't know what to make of it. It looks it looks very John Carpenter creature y type thing. Yep. Rachel Wilson says, my youngest kids have a terrible time making new friends. Their peers are on lockdown. The brains are all fried. No one has social skills. They don't leave the... The kids don't leave the house. It's sad. Well, that's the thing.

3:28:27Jay DyerSo coof basically destroyed the kids coming up through that COOP period. That's a huge factor in what we're talking about here. Absolutely. Myron Shuck, $10. In an alternative universe, theater kid Jay Dyer is cast on Saved by the Bell. And every week he argues with Screech, pushing him into the into the walker. That might actually be this universe. So I'm... I don't know why you think that's another universe. $5. This whole video could be an AI and I would not be shocked. No. I don't think this guy's channel is AI. This is

3:29:03Jay DyerI mean, I assume you're talking about this. I mean, he's got a bunch of serial killer documentaries, and I don't think they're AI.

3:29:12Jay DyerBy the way, I'm looking forward to getting into her Baumeister as well because Baumeister is another mannequin freak like Jeffrey, he was in the circles of the BDSM stuff. And if I recall,

3:29:29Jay Dyerhe was in the same underground BDSM group with

3:29:34Jay DyerBobby Ber... Berdello, the other serial killer?

3:29:40Jay DyerAnd Bobby Berdello claims that he was explicitly a satanist. So, again, the gay satanist contingent do this is constantly going on with these serial killers explicitly.

3:29:54Jay DyerLet's see. I don't know if this guy mentions the

3:29:57Jay Dyerbet he does. Let's see if he talks about gonna ask the AI here.

3:30:13Speaker 4I know that my god is real. And I want to say that in this place, during all of this that's going on, there was an angel. There was my God. Standing right there with me the entire time.

3:30:32Speaker 5Everything we know about this case Mhmm. Comes from you

3:30:36Jay DyerAbsolutely.

3:30:37Speaker 5Absolutely what?

3:30:39Jay DyerYeah. So one hour fifty in,

3:30:49Speaker 3Let's see.

3:30:51Jay DyerTo a paranormal investigator that sat down with Mark. She says he told her Herb was in a local satanic cult with lots of members.

3:31:01Speaker 3For instance,

3:31:02Speaker 6one interesting thing was he told us that Herb was part of a a or coven or whatever you wanna call it in the area that had a of members.

3:31:11Jay DyerThe scene in which Herb himself was found was ritualistic according to Van Tigriff, who to my knowledge has had his credibility questioned. So

3:31:21Jay Dyerwas Fox Hollow Farms being used for

3:31:24Jay DyerYeah. But this... There's more to this because I remember in the Lowfield information,

3:31:30Jay Dyerhe was in a club that included, I Bobby Burdello. I think that's right. Or just a bunch of like, satanic BDSM stuff.

3:31:47Jay DyerThe scene in which Herb himself was found was ritualistic according to Van Tigriff who fact, Goodyear would say Herb's personality split was due to being demonically possessed. Here also the first time and only time do we get Goodyear admitting he's been to the farm not just more than once, but so many times he can't recount. Goodyear tells of an encounter he had in '26 with the spirit of a victim no one has heard before. This spirit acts actually tells Goodyear who he was and how he was

3:32:20Jay Dyerwas killed. Not that there was any other way

3:32:23Jay Dyerthat... This is a gay dude in the circles of this guy. So but, you know, not that that's approved, but... Well, I have to look and find that old thing about her Baumeister from the Lowellefsen site. Let me see.

3:32:39Jay DyerRabbit Trail. Okay. Let's see. Check out Herb.

3:32:55Jay DyerI'm glad people updating this, by way, because a lot of these are, like, old school, like, low res

3:33:02Jay Dyervideos with, like,

3:33:07Jay Dyernothing on there. Let me see if we can find it this way.

3:33:16Jay DyerThere we go.

3:33:29Jay DyerWell, there's a shit ton of videos. I don't know which one will have the mentioning of I watched all of these, by the way. I've done all this stuff, but I don't I don't remember which one of these has the

3:33:56Jay DyerHerb looked like he was

3:33:58Megan Foxyounger than 50.

3:33:59Jay DyerAlright.

3:34:01Jay DyerYeah. I don't know. Too much here. I don't know if I'll be able to find it. But

3:34:05Jay Dyerwe're almost done with the dome resection.

3:34:07Speaker 3As we are told, could not face his father after his discharge and wanted to get away from the cold of Ohio. Twenty seven years, I've been asking, who could take a six year old boy and murder him in we needed to know. We needed to know.

3:34:39Jay DyerAnd

3:34:40Speaker 3today, we know. In this episode, we will be discussing many things, but most importantly, Jeff's time in Florida, his life in crimes at his grandmother's house, his learning of and his entry into the child ridden

3:34:53Jay DyerInteresting. Speaking of chicken stuff, like, that comes up right with underage boys, as you guys know. And if you don't know, there is a, Jeff connection to this as well as we'll see. Leroy Williams $5. I've seen a couple wearing a mask in a car in Arizona, but COVID didn't even come to Arizona. This is not merely NPC behavior. I don't actually know what this is. It's like a cult.

3:35:23Jay DyerYeah. It's some kind of weird pod person cult. So why are people wearing masks

3:35:30Jay Dyernow in a... In places like Arizona? It's kinda crazy. Ike miles are $5. What is your opinion on

3:35:37Jay Dyerunderage stab? I don't I'm not into that.

3:35:44Jay DyerI'm I'm not into stabbies. Octavian the same women who are afraid of 80% of men's could be pen pals marrying actual serial killers behind... Yeah. Well, the problem is a lot of the serial killers are in into dudes. So the women are not gonna find a lot of serial killers. Maybe a Ted Bundy, but

3:36:05Jay Dyerisn't... Did Ted get the death penalty? I don't know. He's he's he's not around. Right? I don't remember.

3:36:11Jay DyerBut

3:36:12Jay DyerJay Brink's $15. Can we get Sam Hi 2070 experience watch party? Yeah. Do you have any good Sam Hyde stories? I mean, not

3:36:21Jay Dyerthat are like crazy stories. No. Just hanging out and chatting and that kind of stuff. But yeah, that's a good idea.

3:36:28Jay DyerIn the filth, what's up, Jay?

3:36:31Jay DyerDo more anti Hindu apologetics because we have so much mass immigration. That's a good point. Yeah. We do need to do that. I should

3:36:39Jay Dyerdo that.

3:36:41Jay DyerN j, $10. J, I'm your number one traditional Catholic.

3:36:45Jay DyerFan. Are you familiar with dead Internet theory? I've already... I was doing videos on dead Internet theory, like, three years ago, dog. I'm not being mean. I'm just saying. Just check out we did a whole stream on it. More more than one.

3:37:05Jay DyerSo here's a

3:37:07Jay Dyerbreakdown video, but here's four years ago we did that earnest. Theory. Or you are

3:37:15Jay DyerI'll give you that in the chat, dog. I would do wanna talk about And then we did another stream here more recently on it. I don't remember what stream this is.

3:37:26Jay DyerLet's

3:37:26Jay Dyersee. This is it.

3:37:32Jay DyerIt's our second stream on dead Internet theory.

3:37:41Jay DyerEverything actually is fake and gay. NJ says, you see that the Clancy cases are cray cray. Well, it's sounding like now that girl is lying. Right?

3:37:54Jay DyerIn the Cornell store. Have you watched, Manhunter? Yes. We've seen Manhunter. We did an analysis of serial killer fit... Movies in Manhunter a long time ago. It's okay. It's the it's the first of the Hannibal stories. Right? It comes out in the nineteen eighties.

3:38:16Jay DyerVulcan's $5. Seems like the US West German base is a hub for a lot of these experiments. I think so. I think that they do stuff on foreign soil, because they get away with more. Right? Same reason why in the octopus case, they would have the Indian reservations as places where they could do certain operations and CIA stuff. Because Indian reservations have different laws, which make it easier to do black ops kind of stuff. So I'm not surprised. For example, the Kentler project was giving

3:38:47Jay Dyerorphans and children over to PDFs. That was a big part of West German. Yeah. West Germany must be some hub for this kind of satanic, you know, mind control cult type stuff. Absolutely. And we have talked about that as well. E war mapping $5, Do you have videos about the calergi plant? Yes. The last several Lord Voldemort's, we've covered it. Worth hours. That shit's $5 Iowa council says satanic prayer is opening up. Their official meetings now at the Iowa account. Wow. So you can have

3:39:21Jay Dyersatanic prayers in city council meetings, but christianity, you know, There's a new kids movie called Wildwood, and it shows a bunch of satanic symbols. But we're not supposed to talk about all this because that's, quote, satanic panic. Yeah. Well, that's a cover up. I mean, they push the silly stuff to make it look like it's a satanic panic when there's actually real stuff going on. That's exactly what's going on. And I've been saying that forever on my channel. Blacksmith $5 isn't sola scriptura by self... By definition, self reputing.

3:39:51Jay DyerReputing. I'm getting so tired. My mind is mushed. Need some I need some dinner, dog. It includes exegesis, and this entails that you know the context of the scripture. It's written.

3:40:02Jay DyerIn

3:40:02Jay Dyerother words, you need to go out of the Bible in order to interpret the Bible. How is that different than tradition? Yeah. No. It's... We make that point too because there's no escaping some context to... Or tradition to interpret the text. Absolutely. Chat at $5. What's up, Dizzle? What's

3:40:17Jay Dyerup?

3:40:17Jay DyerAnonymous, $5. Thank you so much. Brennan Bell, $10. No. We did that.

3:40:24Jay DyerRui, we did that one.

3:40:29Jay DyerSlump homunculus, $5. The dumber that the world gets, the more I look forward to going to heaven. It's a lifetime of psychological torture. More likely to break the spirit than physical torture. It could be. Surf and rose speaks that way. Right?

3:40:45Jay DyerVanilla Gorilla $5. Instead of being paranoid about every single man that a woman sees, have you tried being just a little bit, way sis?

3:40:53Jay DyerThat's funny.

3:41:04Jay DyerDianita Love Sam $10. Some couples look at the moon when it's far away. And then they feel close. But my husband and I listened to Jay Dyer livestreams, we actually feel close. Well, this is a perfect subject matter to cuddle together nearby the fire, Jeffrey and his cannibal. Murders. It's a perfect evening. It's a perfect date date night stream with your loved one. Dianeita loves $30. May God continue to bless you and your family. Bundlely, thank you for your knowledge. Thank you. Appreciate that,

3:41:37Jay DyerThat's a name right there. Dan. Dan, What's up? I was born in military helicopter.

3:41:43Jay DyerWow.

3:41:44Jay DyerLived in a military base. Uh-oh. SV composer, $3. Jim Bob is debating. Evolution with a guy who has a face that makes me reconsider the possibility of

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3:41:56Jay DyerWow. You guys are so freaking mean Oh my gosh. I can't believe how mean you guys are.

3:42:07Jay DyerAlright. Let's get a little bit more of Jeffrey.

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3:43:26Jay DyerAlright. Let's get a little bit more of, Jeffrey. Covered.

3:43:30Speaker 3Milwaukee gay scene.

3:43:31Jay DyerThis is

3:43:31Jay Dyerimportant because this ties this is where, Jeffrey begins to move into the circles of the Skittles, bathhouses, and underage people types of circles. This would be similar to what happens with Gacy and Dean Coral through John David Norman who pimps out underage people's, boys, of course, to these circles and overlaps again with satanic... Potentially satanic circle. Spree of

3:43:58Speaker 3druggings, his evasion of suspicion from his family and law enforcement, his arrests, and, of course, his murders. Again, there's plenty more than... You know another

3:44:06Jay Dyerreason why I think they cover up the satanic and skittles side of this because they wanted to normalize the skittles stuff. So you can't have this information coming out about oh, how come all these serial killers are Skittles? How come they're in the BDSM satanic circles and clubs? Oh, that's a a, you know, satanic panic, hate speech. We don't want the... Well, yeah, they don't want that coming out because they wanna normalize skittle stuff....

3:44:33Speaker 3That we will be discussing. Most of this documented, yet ignored by many, rep...

3:44:37Jay DyerWell, again, Jeffrey wasn't just a about them big booties on men's. He was about eating those cheeks, dog. He wasn't just clapping them cheeks. He was chomping down barbecue style. On them cheeks.

3:44:53Speaker 3On Dahmer's life and crimes. I wanna say thank you to all those who watched my previous videos and subscribed, and thank you would actually lead to a job offer. After Jeff was found digging in the dumpster in the back of Sunshine Subs in my Miami. Darnall was discovered by Ken Halpert, the man... Who was working at Subway?

3:45:08Jay DyerJust think about it right now. Right? Anytime you go to Subway, you could potentially have the new next Jeffrey chopping up your subs, dude. That make you think twice before you get that extra meat sub.

3:45:21Speaker 3And feeling Dahmer needed help getting his start in Florida, he gave him a job. Things were going well for a while. With his new income, he was staying out of a motel again, and even met a girl he says he was not sexually interested in in any way. Yet, they both considered marriage as she was born in England and staying in America illegally.

3:45:45Jay DyerDo

3:45:45Jay Dyerwent from a gayance, a gay seance, a gayance to straight up just chomping down on people. The 07/07/1981, a few weeks after starting, Dahmer would

3:45:58Speaker 3show up to his new job at Sunshine Subs. Usually working morning to evening twelve hour shifts, he had made multiple trips out to the dumpster that day and the day before. Sometime in the afternoon on the seventh, Dahmer approaches Ken about he never mentions to invest

3:46:12Jay DyerThis is just one of his early... I think he kills a hobo.

3:46:15Jay DyerI don't know if he eats the hobo, but

3:46:19Jay Dyerhe basic... There's a suspicious death of a hobo right behind. The sub... Subway shop that he worked at. But, we're gonna skip past that because that was just a murdered hobo. No offense to hobos out there. But a lot of people don't know the potential connection or that Dahmer... Some people suspect in the famous Adam Walsh case. Right? So the unsolved cases guy that old TV show, I guess this was near where

3:46:50Jay DyerDahmer was when he was in his

3:46:52Jay DyerFlorida period. Got to talk to Dahmer.

3:46:54Speaker 4February was 07/27/1981 when six year old Adam was kidnapped from a Sears department store at a Hollywood mall. Two weeks later and 125 miles away, his head was found in a canal west of Vero Beach. It is this man convicted murderer and drifter, Addis Toole, who is believed by many to have killed the boy.

3:47:11Jay DyerToole So ous Toole is the co killer with Henry Lee Lucas. Right? So they were the serial killer team, the one that Bush pardoned. But

3:47:24Jay Dyerat that time, they thought Otis Toole was the Adam Walsh guy, but perhaps not.

3:47:33Speaker 4Has confessed to the crime and recanted two times.

3:47:39Jay DyerBut it's interesting that he confessed to it then recants it, which Henry Lee Lucas did the same thing. So a lot of these serial killers, like, they'll just make up shit and say sit, and then they'll con... They'll con... Contradict it like it week later. So it's hard to know from the statements of the serial killers themselves.

3:47:57Speaker 5Didn't do that case.

3:47:58Speaker 4In the following years, countless leads were followed It all resulted in 10,000 pages of reports. Now, after numerous court battles, the media has won the right to search those files.

3:48:08Jay DyerIs it possible?

3:48:08Speaker 4Your reactions to ruling

3:48:09Jay Dyerplease? Would you please step out of the way?

3:48:11Speaker 4She was bitter and angry, the mother Adam Walsh. Surrounded by attorneys, Revais Walsh had come to the courtroom specifically to address the judge. To ask that he not release the investigative files into the murder of her son fourteen years ago. Last fall, after endless arguments, the media convinced circuit judge Leroy Mo to open the files. It was agreed the information would be put on microfilm and turned over the news media no later than noon tomorrow.

3:48:32Jay DyerAnd the release of this material would not be prejudicial or

3:48:35Speaker 6cause irreparable harm to the state or to its case. Based on that, the emergency motion to stay is denied.

3:48:40Speaker 3When the Walsh police file became public in 1995, Paris did

3:48:44Speaker 7something apparently no other journalist in America thought to do. He read it, all 7,000 pages. You believe you know who killed Adam

3:48:51Jay DyerWalsh.

3:48:52Speaker 7I believe I do. It was Jeffrey Donner.

3:48:55Jay DyerWoah. That's crazy.

3:48:59Jay DyerImagine if Jeffrey was the one behind that because he was there in California at that time. I mean, in Florida... Hollywood, Florida near Vero Beach.

3:49:11Speaker 3Adam Walsh was last seen being tossed into the back of a blue van.

3:49:15Speaker 3Two weeks later, his remains were found, and, ultimately, the murder was blamed on Oddis Toole. Toole and his accomplice, Henry Lee Lucas, were known not only to serial killers, but also serial confessors.

3:49:26Speaker 31983, Toll confessed and recanted and was then dropped as a suspect just a year later. At first, he included Lucas in the killing, then that changed. He later said that he remembered it being towards the beginning of the year and young Adam was wearing pants and mittens. It was peak summer in South Florida. Of course, he was later picked up as a suspect again and posthumously was found to be the killer of Adam Walsh in 2000 The face of Adam supposedly being found in the bloodstain on the floorboard of beige Cadillac. In 1991, Dahmer's face hit the screen across the nation and the world. The same month Adam disappeared ten years ago.

3:49:59Speaker 3Two witnesses immediately recognized him as the man they saw that day in the mall Adam Walsh was abducted from. In total, seven came forward to positively ID Dahmer as the perpetrator.

3:50:08Speaker 7So as it turns out, after the 2008 public record release and they released more after they closed the case inside of his honest tool, there were seven police witnesses who were found in there and spoke to and showed them pictures of honest tool and they said no that's not who we saw. And then I showed them pictures of Jeffrey Dahmer, and they said, yes, that's who we saw. But the police weren't interested in that. Would you like to ask why?

3:50:33Speaker 3Rooting out the previous owner of the sub shop, that Lionel mentions in his book, South Florida investigative reporter Arthur j Harris locates the aforementioned Ken Halpert. After talking with Ken and former employees of his business, it was disclosed they also shared the lot with a pizza shop, and wouldn't you know, they made deliveries with a blue van.

3:50:49Speaker 7Darlene Hill, once a co owner of Sunshine Subs and its sister restaurant,

3:50:53Speaker 8said employees borrowed the blue van all the time.

3:50:56Speaker 9If you worked there or what you knew where the keys were, you could take them.

3:51:00Speaker 3Would be in this time that Harris finds out about the body Dahmer discovered and the meter room. In the same meter room, positives for blood splattered on the wall and acts and a sledgehammer. In the medical reports on the head found in the canal,

3:51:13Speaker 3cuts that match those made with a scalpel.

3:51:15Speaker 7Jeff, as Billy has told me, as we've been talking for ten years, Jeff knew anatomy extremely well. He was teaching anatomy to Billy. I can put a scalpel in Jeff Dahmer's hands. Would you say that honest to all, a noted blockhead of somewhat less than high intelligence, would you say it would be likely, Russell, that he would be handling a scalpel? Not well.

3:51:40Speaker 3In 2008, it was case closed on Adam Walsh's murder. Police named Otis Toole saying he was long the prime suspect in the case, and that they had conclusively linked him to the killing. They declined to be specific about their evidence and did not note any DNA proof of the crime, but said an extensive review of the case file pointed only to Toole, as John Walsh long contended. Toole had twice confessed to killing the child, but later recanted. He claimed responsibility for hundreds of murders, but police determined most of the confessions were lies.

3:52:08Speaker 8Showing up to work

3:52:09Speaker 3drunk and disheveled a few times too many, Ken fired Dahmer. Was with the help of Halpert that Dahmer was staying at the motel, and so Jeff found himself homeless once again. Jeff's belongings from Germany had been sent to his last known address and showed up at the doorstep of Lionel's home. For a while, Lionel had no clue where Jeff

3:52:25Jay Dyerwas.

3:52:26Speaker 3But soon his son would be on a plane.

3:52:28Jay DyerNow this is the period when Jeff is living with his Calvinist presbyterian grandmother in the basement. And this is when he procures a

3:52:38Jay Dyersatanic bible and decides that when his grandmother makes him read these bible passages that he wants to be on the other side. And this is key point we wanna get to right

3:52:49Jay Dyerhere.

3:52:49Speaker 4Beautiful day outside.

3:52:52Speaker 4Nice day to be alive.

3:52:55Speaker 3And we're coming

3:52:55Jay Dyerupstairs.

3:52:56Speaker 10To the basement. I'm gonna go in in the backyard through the back door.

3:53:00Jay DyerOkay.

3:53:05Speaker 10Walking over here on the side. See all the bars on the windows down there? Jeff and I put all those bars in but they're craving more secure.

3:53:15Speaker 3Besides his alcoholism, his occult practices also followed him to Milwaukee. Not long after he started at the plasma center, he would drink blood to see what effect it would have on

3:53:24Jay Dyerhim.

3:53:24Speaker 3As with each residency stays at, he soon set up a panic altar in his so called

3:53:29Jay DyerNow, I did look this up. This is in one of the journalists that wrote the text about him. Not long ago, he had reached out... Of course, he had long ago reached the age where he had the right, so I intend to say... Persuade him to stay with his grandmother. She was old and frail, just frequent absences, led to a cult worship in Jeff's room. They terrified the grandmother. She was a lifelong Presbyterian, and the fact that her son had gotten interested in a altar that she... That he put in the house, including griffins and

3:54:01Jay Dyerblack lights horrified her. Jeff had also procured a copy of the state bible, which was evidence of him dabbling into a new religion.

3:54:10Speaker 3Christian grandmother's house, drinking blood and setting up altars. Of course, there's

3:54:15Speaker 3nothing realistic about Dahmer's crimes in any way. In August 1982, he would earn his second mugshot after exposing himself in public at a fair. Soon after, he would be fired from his job at the plasma center for poor performance. Lionel and Sherry would then have Jeff and Catherine, his grandmother, over for Thanksgiving in Ohio.

3:54:35Speaker 3No word has mentioned they had any idea of Jeff's arrest. Back from Ohio and Jeff would begin to take the bible seriously. As masters said after Dahmer had studied the satanic bible, these were the first stirrings of an interest in what Dahmer mistakenly referred to as Satanism.

3:54:57Jay DyerNow not... He's not interested in the bible because he believes it, but he's interested in studying it because he doesn't believe

3:55:04Speaker 3True satanic practice lies not in the satanic

3:55:08Speaker 3A gruesome story leads off our newscast. Now what

3:55:13Jay DyerI hit the wrong button. My bad.

3:55:16Jay DyerA

3:55:16Speaker 10gruesome

3:55:17Speaker 3story leads off our

3:55:18Megan Foxnewscast. Milwaukee police found body

3:55:20Speaker 3But in the ancient religious practices of those named enemies in the Bible.

3:55:26Speaker 11In the spring of eighty nine, the dead bodies of thirty thirteen victims, one of whom was only 16 years old, were found mutilated and buried in a common grave near the American Mexican border in Matamoros. This satanic drug smuggling cult believed that sacrificing in bizarre rituals would give them magical protection. The victim

3:55:48Jay DyerIn other words, Geoffrey's actions are not Anton LaVey level. Right? In other words, we're not saying that he got the satanic bible because he was into Anton LaVey. He got and was like, no. I want the real thing. That's what the Matamoros people are doing. Right? And the Matamoros call, which is around the same time, right, late eighties, they believe that when you consume these people right, that you're getting their powers. That's what Dahmer engages in. Full on, like, straight up. No. I need to actually eat the hearts

3:56:20Jay Dyerto make these people part of me. That's what he tells the victims before he unalives them in Milwaukee. He's like, you're gonna part of me because I'm gonna eat your heart. So he goes, like, full Aztec.

3:56:32Speaker 11Right? Had been dealt blows with a hammer, and some suffered horrible mutilation including the removal of brains, hearts, and other organs that were then boiled in blood.

3:56:41Speaker 7So he had the idea that if he were preserve a part of the person, the skull, photographs, skeleton, then it wouldn't be such a

3:56:51Speaker 12waste. He drew for me a picture of what he meant to develop It was of a very simple table on which he had skulls lined up facing forward.

3:57:03Jay DyerThis is his power altar.

3:57:06Speaker 12There would be a full skeleton suspended on each side of the table. Above the table would be a face looking down on the action He wanted to be able to recline in this throne like chair and admire his handiwork. Of the skulls and the skeletons with candles burning.

3:57:25Speaker 12And had the magical idea that perhaps if he did that and did it just so, he'd be able to get in touch with some kind of higher power or evil power that would embolden him and make him able to commit these crimes.

3:57:37Jay DyerSo he was not just a low level atheist, Anton LaVey satanist. This guy was like a committed, no, I want the real Aztec experience of me being like a a you know, cannibal consuming black altar real estate.

3:57:52Speaker 3Dahmer would now begin to collect unemployment, and his actions

3:57:55Speaker 8for these years between are hazy. The last time he would see his mother before his arrest would be Christmas nineteen eighty three when he flew out to California to stay with Joyce and David. We're told he began to walk the straight and narrow, but with all of that alone time and money, he didn't have to work for, the perfect conditions would be set for him to waste away with his alcoholism, but he doesn't.

3:58:12Speaker 8For these few years, Dahmer would take his time with the scripture, with his grandma, at his side the whole time.

3:58:18Speaker 4Then had what I'd referred to as almost a religious conversion in

3:58:21Speaker 13reverse. At the end of think, well, maybe there's a devil and maybe it's my destiny to carry out the work of the devil. He began engaging in all kinds of bizarre incantations.

3:58:30Speaker 8Quick succession, this period of Jeff's life ended and is verging into the underworld escalated just as fast. He lands an overnight job at the Ambrosia Chocolate Factory in January 1985,

3:58:40Jay Dyerwhich... Damn, dude. How'd you like to have that dude making your dainties and your treats?

3:58:45Jay DyerAlright. So

3:58:47Jay Dyerthere we have it. We're gonna stop there because we've been going for a long time, and we will finish out the rest of this excellent documentary series. Shout out to, semi... Semiat. I'll give you guys the link if you wanna watch the documentary. We will be finishing it, though, but this is his work, and it builds on the Dave McGowan work other... Work of others as well prior to that, the oilfield work. And the collecting of a lot of these, news reports and and videos and interviews. And this is a whole side of this stuff with the

3:59:20Jay Dyerkillers nobody talks about. So hopefully, you guys have enjoyed it. Great for Spooktober.

3:59:27Jay DyerCheddar says, great stream, Jay. I wish you had higher views. Well, seems like people would be interested in but I don't know. Like, I guess we're not we're not wine mommy enough, I guess. I don't know.

3:59:39Jay DyerRIP, homo rambay, $5. Do you think if Jeff succeeded in putting acid into the brain inject... Injection if if Jess succeeded in his acid brain experiments and created a perfect black homosexual zombie, he would have stopped. You know, we can always hope. No. I'm joking. You know? Yeah. I think we don't know where was going with his experiments, but, you know, we're just waiting for the time when Netflix releases the series where we get a humanized

4:00:14Speaker 3empathetic,

4:00:15Jay Dyerright, Jeff Dahmer. Guys, hit, like, and share. I will see you guys soon, and have fun.