HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial

0:01Myron GainesHey, what's up guys? Welcome to Fresh Fit Podcast after hours edition. We got a good show for you guys. It's gonna be a reaction... And Mike

0:06Freshin the building.

0:07Myron GainesAnd we got Mike Rachitta in the fucking building, Let's get into it.

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1:56Fresh1,100. Right?

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2:15ChrisJust gain the house. Shout out to you guys on Twitch.

2:17IslaShout out to Twitch.

2:18Myron GainesGet it? Shout out to Twitch. And then we got some new members...

2:20Speaker 2Sean, Osborne is back.

2:21ChrisNo. No. We don't.

2:22Speaker 2Oh, we

2:22Myron Gainesdon't have it? Okay. No new members. Okay. So other than that, guys, besides me shamelessly selling things to you, I guess we can go around the table and introduce the lovely ladies. Right?

2:28FreshYes. We can. Alright.

2:30FreshSo ladies,

2:31Freshand we'll just ask for your first name, your age, and we can do it for a living. So we'll start here.

2:36IslaHi, I'm Isla. I'm 25 and I own two businesses.

2:40IslaCool.

2:40FreshAlright. What business are those?

2:42Speaker 2One of

2:42Islathem is in finance and the other is a skincare business.

2:45FreshDope. Alright.

2:46PenelopeHey everybody. I'm Penelope. I'm 34

2:49Penelopeand I do brand strategy and design work for people starting businesses.

2:55FreshAwesome. Cool. Hi.

2:57JanelliI'm Janelli. I'm 22 and I'm a front desk agent.

3:00FreshAlright. And welcome back to both of you. Welcome back....

3:03FreshAgain.

3:03FreshThere you go.

3:04Mike RashidFront desk for where?

3:06IslaHe's trying to go.

3:07Speaker 2South Beach. Stalker.

3:10Speaker 2Yeah. I'm

3:14BiancaBianca. I'm 27.

3:16BiancaI just did nursing school and I'm working on my own brands.

3:21TreyCool. Alright. Awesome.

3:23Mike RashidWhat kind of brand?

3:24BiancaFitness brands.

3:26FreshOkay. Fitness. Okay.

3:27Speaker 2Yeah. There you go. Hi,

3:29Kimberlyguys. My name is Kimberly

3:31Kimberlyand I'm 30

3:33Kimberlyand I'm an entrepreneur.

3:34KimberlyWho's going ask me what type

3:35Speaker 2of business?

3:36Mike RashidYeah. What type business?

3:37KimberlyOf

3:39Kimberlyspiritual

3:40IslaOkay. You're spiritual. Cleanser soul.

3:42Mike RashidWhat does that mean?

3:43KimberlyWhat

3:43Kimberlydoes that Yeah. What do you mean by that?

3:46Mike RashidLifestyle lifestyle,

3:47Mike Rashidspiritual...

3:48Mike RashidBusiness? Yeah.

3:50KimberlyOh, so basically, I'm...

3:52KimberlyI help people transition

3:54Kimberlyfrom...

3:55Speaker 2Like, transition...

3:56KimberlyOh,

3:57Kimberlyno. No. No. No. Just like from an old way of living to

4:00Kimberlya more

4:02Kimberlyvital way of living.

4:04KimberlySo I just help. I'm like a guidance teacher, guess you could say.

4:07KimberlyLove it. Okay.

4:09Speaker 2Cool. Mhmm. Cool. So...

4:11VanessaMy name is Vanessa,

4:13Vanessaand I'm an artist and model.

4:15Mike RashidWhat kind of artist?

4:16IslaI'm a painter. I paint.

4:18ChrisCool.

4:19ChrisAwesome.

4:21Myron GainesSo

4:22Myron Gainestoday guys, we're gonna do a... Do you have any questions to... Yes. Have two. Okay. So we're gonna do a reaction video first. Well, we're gonna ask some questions, then we're gonna do a reaction video to a viral moment in one of our videos. But before we get into that, hit the super chat real quick and Fresh will hit the first question. Cool. Alright. Ladies, give us ladies, give us one thing you like about dating and also one thing you hate about it. Please no cap on this one or else Freshest Foot will make an appearance. Yes, they will. Exactly.

4:45Speaker 2Don't play.

4:46Myron GainesSo, you know, that that... We might be able weave that into the first question. Yeah. You know, that's that's pretty simple. Anything else, Chris?

4:51ChrisNo. We're good. Alright. Cool.

4:52Myron GainesGo ahead. Cool. Go ahead, fresh.

4:53FreshSo ladies, kinda like what you said, what are your views on dating right now? Do you hate it? Do you love it? Is it good? And what's your current status?

5:02IslaOh, me?

5:04IslaOkay. Wow. So I am a very opinionated

5:07Islaperson, but I think the one thing that I would say that I love is probably the honeymoon stage. Like when you just kinda like have that like good vibes, no one's lying yet, no one's...

5:19IslaYou're not getting in fights yet. You know what I mean? That part. And then I think the one downside would probably be...

5:26IslaI don't know. Kinda like...... Sets in. Yeah.

5:29IslaThe opposite of that. Exactly. Kinda when like reality sets in. And

5:33Islasometimes, you know, you have to part ways and it is what it is. It sucks but, you know, it is what it is.

5:38FreshAnd what's your current status?

5:40IslaI am single.

5:41FreshThere you go, fella.

5:42FreshGlad to hear DMs.

5:44IslaAlright. You know it's guys. No kidding.

5:46Speaker 2That's

5:49Speaker 2how we make the

5:49Penelopeassumptions over

5:50Speaker 2here. Okay. There you go. It's a whole new

5:53Freshworld. Alright.

5:54Speaker 2It's a whole new world.

5:57Speaker 2I

5:59Penelopethink my favorite part about dating is definitely like just discovering new people and what they're all about and seeing how they could fit into your life.

6:08PenelopeAnd then the worst part is, you know, when you realize they don't really fit into your life, then you gotta like cut them loose and that could be awkward and usually...

6:17PenelopeYeah. It's not like the easiest thing to do to like distance yourself from people once they're already feeling you and you're not feeling them. Mhmm. So

6:25PenelopeI don't like that part, but it's part of it. So it's all good. Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. And...

6:30FreshCurrent status?

6:31PenelopeCurrent status,

6:34Penelopesingle but never solo.

6:39Mike RashidI'll be having questions. What does that mean?

6:41PenelopeI'm

6:42Penelopedating. I'm trying to find the right person for me.

6:47PenelopeThat's it.

6:47Speaker 2Yeah.

6:48Speaker 2Interesting.

6:50PenelopeYeah. No shortage of dates but, you know...

6:52FreshWriting the CC.

6:53Speaker 2I'm like

6:55Penelopetrying to be very selective and my time is, you know, very valuable so I can't give it to everybody. So it's like, you know,

7:02Penelopeyou

7:04Penelopegotta have those initial conversations to make sure they're even worth going on a date with. Mhmm. And then if we go on a date and you click, then it's like, hey, how do I play this? Do I wanna just

7:14Penelopecontinue it? Like, usually guys wanna move pretty fast. I'm more of a slow mover. I like to take my time with people, just kinda like make sure they're my friend first and then and then see it from Yeah.

7:25PenelopeDoesn't like that because he wants to fuck on the first day but I don't... I'm not down with that. So

7:29Vanessaif can't

7:30Penelopebe my friend first then we can't be in here.

7:31Myron GainesI'm just listening.

7:33Speaker 2I already know. I already know.

7:34Mike RashidI'm not down

7:35Speaker 2with you on

7:35Mike Rashidthe first day.

7:36PenelopeYou're not down?

7:37Mike RashidWhy are you not down?

7:38PenelopeI just think it's too quick. I mean, like,

7:41PenelopeI would think that

7:42Penelopeit's just not really my style

7:45Penelopefor the most part.

7:46Mike RashidHave ever had sex on the first date?

7:47PenelopeYeah. I have. I have. And because of that, I've been like, I don't really like that.

7:51Mike RashidWas it not good? Was it...

7:53PenelopeNo. It's not necessarily that it's not good. It...

7:55Mike RashidI mean... If it's good, then what's the problem? Y'all vibing is good, what's the problem?

8:00PenelopeYeah. I mean, there's definitely been both situations where I've like done it, but then for the most part, I just feel like I would rather wait till like second or third date. That's just my personal style.

8:11KimberlyOr... I

8:11Islahear that. Hear If you did

8:13Mike Rashidit and you've had good experiences...

8:16PenelopeBut I've also had bad experiences.

8:17Mike RashidYeah. But that'll be... You could do that, have bad experiences...

8:19PenelopePersonally, I like to talk about sex with a man before I have it and I feel...

8:22Mike RashidWhat does that conversation sound like?

8:24PenelopeLike,

8:25Penelopemean, I I'm not gonna have that conversation No.

8:26Mike RashidJust kidding. Online.

8:28Mike RashidI wanna

8:28Myron Gainesknow, like,

8:29Penelopeare we sexually compatible?

8:32Speaker 2You would

8:32Mike Rashidnot know that unless you was having sex with him.

8:35ChrisYeah. God, I

8:36Mike Rashidthink things come to those

8:37Penelopetwo ways and I'm more of a spiritual person and I feel like

8:41Penelopesex is a spiritual connection thing for me and I'm not interested

8:45Penelopein just fucking. So a lot of guys, they just wanna fuck you and I'm not down...

8:50Mike RashidI'm

8:51Mike Rashidnot disagreeing

8:51Speaker 2or But

8:53Mike Rashidthe time that you had sex on the first date, did you just wanna fuck?

8:57PenelopeNo. I I wanted to continue on like... Because I was like actually genuinely interested in them and then I feel like there was maybe a couple times where guys were just not... Like they were interested in me but then I

9:21Mike Rashidhaving sex on the first date is not a bad thing. No. We don't look at it like, you know what? My morals sell me. Like, that's not a thing. Right? Mhmm. It's how y'all meet and how y'all vibe and interact.

9:31PenelopeAnd I think

9:32Mike Rashidalso leading up to some people, like, who have options,

9:37Mike Rashidalright, I'm gonna make you wait.

9:39Mike RashidI'd be like, cool.

9:40Mike RashidI'm gonna be smashing my face off over here until

9:42Speaker 2Yeah. You're That's a smasher. I don't care.

9:44Myron GainesYou know what mean?

9:44Mike RashidBut this is like I'm

9:45Penelopestill getting to know you. Why can't we be friends for a bit?

9:47Mike RashidI don't know. I'm not saying it's wrong,

9:50Speaker 2but what's... Any dude

9:51Mike Rashidwho's when

9:52Mike Rashidyou say... You you say......

9:53PenelopeSleep with him

9:54Mike Rashidon the

9:54Penelopefirst date is not for me.

9:55Mike RashidBut when a person says, like Fair. This is my rule.

9:59PenelopeI don't have a rule. I go with vibes.

10:01Mike RashidOkay.

10:01IslaI I don't have rule....

10:02Mike RashidFirst date smashing it

10:04Penelopenot totally out of the

10:05Mike Rashidquestion, it's just not something I do....

10:07Myron GainesYou did already.

10:08PenelopeYeah. I've done it. I've done it. But I... Because of If... The way that I am, I prefer to just take a bit of time and actually have like

10:16Penelopecertain amount of conversation, know a certain amount of things about people, feel like, you know,

10:21Speaker 2this is...

10:22PenelopeAKA... Like I said on the last podcast, I like to verify that they're for real, like...

10:26Mike RashidHow do you do that in two days? Three days?

10:28PenelopeYeah. Because you can talk to somebody and have more conversations...

10:32Mike RashidYou want lies to you until they get what they want.

10:35Mike RashidThey wanna say... Yeah. Men are liars.

10:37Speaker 2That's why

10:37PenelopeI like to

10:38Mike RashidWomen liars. Little bit.

10:39PenelopeMake sure I can, like, do my creeping person.

10:43FreshAKA until the right guy comes along. Yeah.

10:46Speaker 2So... It's all about vibes. The end of

10:48Penelopethe day

10:48Mike Rashidgive his vibes.

10:49PenelopeBut, like, for instance, you know, like, there's guys, like, I made... I've made a guy wait thirteen years and he waited and then he was still around and he still was there and he was my friend. Hold him. I'm 34.

11:01FreshThirteen years?

11:02PenelopeThirteen years he waited and then he wanted to marry me.

11:05Mike RashidYou respected him?

11:06PenelopeOf course. We were friends, friends.

11:07Mike RashidBut you say you made him wait. I've... Mean... So it wasn't a situation to reality. He was

11:11Penelopealways trying on... He was he would try me every once in

11:14Speaker 2a while.

11:14Mike RashidYou don't like that guy. Are y'all together?

11:17PenelopeI did date him. I tried to take him seriously and then I I knew like Why? After a while of dating him, he wasn't the one.

11:24Mike RashidNo man waits thirteen years.

11:25PenelopeOh, he waited.

11:27Mike RashidLike I said, no man...

11:28Speaker 2No man.

11:29PenelopeHe's a man.

11:30Mike RashidNo. Not.

11:31Speaker 2Well, I don't know

11:31Penelopehow you define a man, but...

11:33Mike RashidTo wait thirteen years for something he don't know if it's good enough.

11:36PenelopeFuck. He's been there. Wait.

11:38Speaker 2But but when... And I

11:39PenelopeI swear to God if

11:40Speaker 2I hit him,

11:41PenelopeI'm gonna be like, yo, let's get married.

11:43Mike RashidHe's not even in prison....

11:44PenelopeIs I'm... I was his girl, like, I was his friend, I was his homegirl, I was there for True

11:48Penelopethick and thin, I did a lot of things for him and I wasn't ever really like super attracted to him,

11:56Mike RashidYou wasn't attracted to him?

11:57PenelopeNot not on that like dating level. I was interested in other people.

12:01PenelopeMy I

12:02Mike Rashidfeel so bad for this guy.

12:04PenelopeYeah. Well, he was still around.

12:06Mike RashidI like

12:08Mike Rashidthese guys.

12:08PenelopeI told him that, but

12:09Mike Rashidhe Mileage. Didn't

12:11Mike RashidMileage. You ready? You ready? I guess.

12:14Speaker 2Come on. Mileage.

12:14PenelopeCome on now.

12:15Mike RashidLiterally. I mean, it's... Come on.

12:17PenelopeI'm just saying that's what happened.

12:19Mike RashidWhat if a dude made you wait that long?

12:21PenelopeI mean, we dated other people in between, and then at the end of the day, he came to me and he was like, yo, you're the only girl that's really

12:27Mike RashidSo you said

12:28Speaker 2to my

12:28Mike Rashidyou said to my bro, you said, look.

12:30KimberlyNot the bro.

12:31Mike RashidI'm not sold on you yet. Let me just... I like this guy.

12:34PenelopeYeah.

12:35Mike RashidAlright. He didn't work out. I like this guy.

12:37PenelopeHe actually became a

12:37Myron Gainesmultimillionaire and

12:38PenelopeI still didn't want him after

12:39Mike RashidThirteen years guys.

12:41PenelopeIt is what it is.

12:42Mike RashidThirteen years of guys, like, and you're rich, I guess, you must have the most powerful

12:47Mike Rashidstuff between your legs on earth.

12:49FreshIt's pretty... It's

12:50Speaker 2pretty... He's

12:50Treymulti millionaire. I

12:51Speaker 2can review it.

12:51Mike RashidAnd he waited thirteen years and you still kicked him to the curb, that's fast. Holy shit.

12:56Speaker 2Yeah. He got these chumps.

12:58Myron GainesAlright. He's gold. So anyway... Oh, shit. We're gonna continue on.

13:01Speaker 2What do you

13:02Mike Rashidmean when they say cap? I don't understand this.

13:04Speaker 2They think that I'm lying.

13:06Speaker 2But if you think

13:06Penelopeyou don't live my life and you will never know what goes on.

13:09Myron GainesYeah. When you see a bunch of blue hats in the chat, it means like the girls are lying.

13:12Mike RashidI'm not

13:13Penelopelying though.

13:13ChrisEspecially when

13:14Mike RashidI was wearing

13:15Myron Gainesit. That's

13:15Speaker 2crap. Alright.

13:16KimberlyLet me let

13:16Myron Gainesme read these super chats real quick. Okay. So we got Phil, $5. Bianca, are the stories about nurses true? $10 from our former president that I will not say his full name because he's shadowbanned, it's To the Girl Sitting Between Mike and Red Head Grandma. Have you had a one night stand since the last podcast? I think that's for you. Oh, this

13:32Janelliis so funny.

13:33Myron GainesYeah. Have you had a one night stand since the last podcast? Because you said last time, you never had a one night stand.

13:37JanelliYeah. I addressed this in the last episode that I was featured in. I don't do one night stands and everyone's gonna cap me now but...

13:44Mike RashidOf course. Didn't... Fantastic.

13:46JanelliHave to come into the chat now.

13:48Myron GainesYou shouldn't say that

13:49Mike Rashidbecause the next guy will be like, I'm a make this a one night stand.

13:52PenelopeYeah. And you will fail.

13:53JanelliNot

13:54Treygonna happen. I'd

13:55Treylike

13:55Penelopeto see girls vibes.

13:56Mike RashidLook.

13:58Mike RashidVibe, vibe, vibe. I don't care how Vibe, long it

14:00Mike Rashidsmash, I'm out.

14:02Mike RashidOne night stand.

14:03Myron GainesYeah. You know what saying?

14:04PenelopeSome girls don't do that.

14:06Mike RashidBut how can you stop, like, that's predicated on what happens after you smash for the first time. Mhmm. So how can you Yeah. Make that

14:13Penelopenot happen? Don't fuck a guy on the first night that you go

14:16Mike Rashidover Oh, you mean first date, first time having sex.

14:18PenelopeYeah. Yeah.

14:19Mike RashidOne nightstand is the first time you have sex and it's a wrap.

14:22FreshThat's true, love.

14:23FreshYou can't

14:24Mike Rashidyou can't...

14:25PenelopeIs how you define it? In that case, I really haven't had that many.

14:29Speaker 2Okay. What's happening? Let's go back. Alright. We'll

14:32Speaker 2come

14:32Treyback to this.

14:33Myron GainesWe'll come back to this. Let me just, let me just read this real quick. Carl ninety nine, can you brand the word vibe? No. Incorvator, $20. Much love to the Fresh Fit fam. Do you guys agree that RP can ultimately be summed up to understanding your value, be that a man or woman? Yeah. Very true. Yep.

14:47Myron GainesMark... May ninety seven, sorry, Marian. Excuse my imping. Two girls next to you are fire, but they will be my wives. Okay?

14:53FreshThere you go.

14:54Myron GainesBlackbird, $10. Ladies.

14:56Myron GainesOh my goodness. There are... There is so much cap already, ladies. A man is never your friend. You are only his conquest. A man that's a friend to woman is her time ho at best. The cap is over 9,000. Very true.

15:06FreshWell said

15:06Penelope$10. I disagree.

15:08Myron GainesMax Sakerco.

15:09Myron GainesMike out here breaking down the womanese. Yep. Ryan Lamar, $5. Got a real one on the show. Might do Mike Rashid, Myeria Fresh. Y'all are on the rise. Best pod in Miami. Facts. We are definitely the number one podcast in Miami by far.

15:19KimberlyIcon, Icon. Icon,

15:21Myron Gaines$20. Hey Fresh. Ask the girl on the left of Mike if she is a night writer. Are you a night writer?

15:26FreshAre you a night writer?

15:27JanelliWait. What's a night writer?

15:28Myron GainesDo you bang black eyes?

15:31Myron GainesThat's a yes. Okay.

15:33PenelopeSo we got... I laughed. I thought her answer.

15:37JanelliAnswer, Janelle. I said not in the past.

15:39Myron GainesYeah. Anyway...

15:42Mike RashidHello. We can't. What does that mean?

15:43IslaGod. In

15:44Penelopethe past? Like, she never has. She never has. Like,

15:46JanelliI haven't.

15:47Mike RashidOh, but you would.

15:48PenelopeIs she not

15:48Mike RashidIs that what I mean?

15:49PenelopeDiscounting it?

15:50JanelliOr like Leave it at the mystery.

15:51Mike RashidThat's

15:52Mike Rashidwhat's up.

15:52FreshWe gotta change that.

15:54Myron GainesVisionaries

15:55Myron Gainesof right. $5.

15:56Speaker 2I never heard of that.

15:57Myron GainesBro, what is she talking about? Okay. Our former president, redhead grandma, dying alone, even dogs and cats won't stick with her.

16:03Speaker 2You got her

16:03Myron Gainesto balance that? Fuck. You got

16:05Speaker 2her to

16:05PenelopeI'm not alone. I already told you. Single but never solo.

16:08Myron GainesOkay. There

16:09Chrisyou go.

16:09Mike RashidSingle but

16:10Myron Gainesnever solo. Kelly Moore, thirteen years thirteen years, ten plus three years, the start and end of the Avengers trilogy. What the fuck? Okay. And then Black

16:17Speaker 2Wolf Inc.

16:17Myron GainesAgain, thirteen years of...

16:19BiancaI'm a GOAT.

16:19Myron GainesI'm not getting over the s word guys because we're on Twitch. Yeah.

16:23Myron GainesFellas, never be a woman's friend when you want them sugar and watery guts. It's not worth it to get to know her for any... Anything other than a relationship. Don't do it. Don't do it. Bang bang. Okay. I made him wait thirteen years so stop it. That's not a man if he actually waited. Oh, well. And then, mo guys. From this point forward, we're gonna go... He saw

16:38Speaker 2my value.

16:39PenelopeHe saw my value and my value went up.

16:41Myron GainesPoint o. Okay.

16:42Myron GainesIt's mo, $5 out to stop the cap. Okay. $20 j b 84. Sharon is officially capping Marvel. Okay?

16:48Speaker 2Oh, I'm back.

16:48PenelopeSharon's back.

16:49Myron GainesYeah. Aquaso,

16:51Myron Gainesten hours. Welcome to Miami, Mike. Freshly fit. The tag team champs. Yep. And then Japanese

16:56Myron Gainesstuff Stop

16:57Freshthe cap.

16:57Myron GainesCap. Yep. I got it. And then we got Ricardo Vasquez with another cap. And then we got

17:17Myron GainesSo... And then last one, r p Mike, I would never lead I would never lead any guy who waits thirteen years to the r p. I would lead him to a cliff and push him over the edge.

17:25PenelopeHe's

17:28Penelopehe's mad that I didn't end up marrying him.

17:30Myron GainesShout out to you.

17:31FreshMister King, shout out to you.

17:32PenelopeGuy was my friend for thirteen years. Yeah.

17:35Speaker 2He's super mad

17:36Chrisat me. I'm gonna get some shots.

17:37FreshOne at a time, please.

17:38ChrisI'm I'm fresh, talk, and then because we're doing things on the show so please.

17:42Myron GainesYeah. So mister king, new member, thank you so much for coming on. R p mike, thank you for the super chat and then we'll go back to what what we're talking

17:49Freshabout. Cool. So I believe...

17:51FreshJalen, you're next?

17:52JanelliWhat was the question?

17:53FreshThe question is my brother.

17:55FreshLike, what The question is, how's dating for you right now and are you happy with it? Are you upset with it? And are you single? Are you relationship? What are you?

18:02JanelliHonestly, I'm not even dating

18:04Speaker 2right now.

18:04Myron GainesCan you talk to them, please?

18:05JanelliSorry, I'm a little far.

18:07JanelliI don't really have time to date right now, I'm, like, I'm dating my work right now, like, I'm working full time so I don't really have time to do anything. Mhmm. But when I did have more time, dating was definitely fun. It's cool new experiences with new people, getting to know new people

18:23Janelliand connecting, like, on a deeper level which I really liked. But right now, I just don't have the time for it.

18:29FreshOkay. So you're single?

18:29IslaStop picking

18:30Speaker 2it up.

18:30FreshSo let me ask you this real quick. If a guy, right, was to say, hey, you know, generally, you work really hard, I got you, don't worry about it, quit your job,

18:39Freshhe'll take care of you who'll take care of you? Travel the world.

18:41PenelopeHe'll pay her salary?

18:42FreshYeah. Would you do it?

18:44JanelliIf I was in love,

18:46Janellimaybe.

18:47FreshOkay.

18:48IslaLike, it

18:48Janelliwould have to be so deep.

18:50Myron GainesI just wanna say one thing because I I I I... Let's, like, define dating because if you ask the women, hey, are you dating anyone right now? They're gonna automatically assume, like, oh, no one took me to dinner so I'm not dating but they're still fucking dudes So Nah. So that... Well, you're sick Really? So you're celibate right now.

19:04IslaI'm like

19:05Myron GainesOh, here

19:05Islawe I'm not dating.

19:06Speaker 2Here we go.

19:08Myron GainesShe is here. Alright. Never mind. We'll just keep going. But that's what we mean, just so the ladies know,

19:12Speaker 2like No, tell her.

19:13Myron GainesAre you seeing someone whether or not he takes on a dinner date is irrelevant? Right. But still consider dating because you guys are hanging out and it's a date regardless of where the location is.

19:21FreshStill dating. Even the car.

19:22Myron GainesNo. Because women tend to have this thing like, it's not a date because he didn't take me to dinner but it's like...

19:25PenelopeThat's not true.

19:27Myron GainesWell, it's not true.

19:27PenelopeLike, girls will be like, I'm seeing him if they're if they're doing something. Like, if they're hooking up and he's not dating you, first of all, you're playing yourself.

19:36PenelopeBut like...

19:37Mike RashidMhmm. Come

19:37Myron Gaineson. But that's what I'm trying to say is that,

19:38Penelopelike, you

19:39Myron Gainesdon't to wait

19:40Mike Rashidfor it. Up.

19:42Mike RashidUp. Hold Hold Hold

19:44Mike Rashidup. The fuck.

19:45Speaker 2Hold the fucking phone.

19:46FreshStuff the cat.

19:47Mike RashidSo apparently,

19:48Mike Rashidyou're the only woman in the world that never had a fuck buddy, never just hang out with a dude, like none of that shit, right? It's gotta be full on.

19:56PenelopeBetter order me some UberEats. No.

19:58Speaker 2I'm just kidding.

19:58Mike RashidThat's

20:00Mike Rashida big that's a big order right there.

20:02Speaker 2I mean, it's a...

20:03Mike RashidIt's worth it. You never hang out with somebody just y'all chilling, y'all don't have no intentions on being with each other, but y'all like y'all y'all vibing on a level and just, you know, smash.

20:14PenelopeI mean, I have,

20:15Penelopebut no, not anymore. Like, I don't have time for that. I don't feel like that's interesting enough for me, like...

20:21Mike RashidBut you you're not dating If you don't... But you're never alone. You're you're not... You're single but never alone.

20:25PenelopeDating. I'm dating.

20:26Mike RashidA bunch of dudes, you do

20:27Kimberlyhave I

20:28Penelopea bunch. Let's not get crazy But

20:29Mike Rashidyou're never alone. You.

20:31PenelopeAlright. Of you.

20:33Mike RashidWhat is... So what is a lot? What is a bunch?

20:35PenelopeI don't know. 10?

20:36PenelopeI don't know how many trees does it take to make a forest? That's like a...

20:40Speaker 2Big question. It's like open to Not

20:43Mike Rashidfor everybody. Is

20:45Mike Rashid10 a lot or 15?

20:46PenelopeThat's way too many. No. No.

20:47Mike RashidSeven. It's not

20:47Penelopegonna get crazy. Like like two, three, maybe at the most.

20:50Mike RashidTwo or three.

20:51PenelopeLike, I will, like, meet somebody

20:52Speaker 2Two or and they'll

20:53Penelopebe interested in me, and they'll be like, yeah, let me take you out. I'll be like, okay, cool. And I'll go out with them, but I'm still dating

20:58Speaker 2this guy.

20:58TreySo Listen.

21:01PenelopeGotta make sure you're worth it first before I

21:03Mike Rashidvery broad in general and Yeah. And and not answering the question.

21:08PenelopeYeah. I'm not gonna... I don't know. It just depends on... It depends on the time of my life.

21:13Mike RashidYou don't know? You really don't know?

21:14PenelopeI mean, I've always

21:15Mike Rashidhad a What lot of guys trying

21:17Penelopeabout you? I've always had... How many girls? How many are you dating at one?

21:21Mike RashidI'm not dating a bunch of girls ever.

21:23PenelopeA bunch? What's a bunch?

21:24Mike RashidI never date a lot of girls.

21:25PenelopeHow many is a... A lot.

21:26Mike RashidOne at a time.

21:27PenelopeOne at a time? Yep. Yeah. Okay.

21:28Speaker 2Because I

21:29Mike RashidI am too busy for that. I I'm too busy for the one. You know what saying?

21:34Speaker 2Yeah. So...

21:34PenelopeThat's why I like to be friends with people because let's just be friends and see how you could actually fit you into my life.

21:40Mike RashidI have no desire to be just a homie with a girl, right?

21:42PenelopeBut if you're interested in her actually seriously...

21:45Mike RashidIf I'm interested in her, I'm a let her know out the rip. Like, I'm not trying to be your buddy. You know what I'm saying? This is... It is what it is.

21:51PenelopeSo Right.

21:51Mike RashidYou take

21:52Penelopeher out on dates?

21:53Mike RashidYeah. And Somebody then I like. Yes.

21:56PenelopeYeah.

21:56Mike RashidOn trips, all of

21:57Penelopethat. Mhmm. Yeah. But what

21:58Islaif they're not trying to hook up with you? They're like, hey, listen.

22:01Speaker 2We're vibing.

22:01Mike RashidI've never I've never had that Talking to my situation. Like,

22:04Mike RashidI'm not gonna try to hang out with somebody that's not trying to... That's not into me.

22:07IslaNo. No. No. But not not not that they're not into you, but they essentially have this thing where like, hey, you know, I really wanna get to know you type of thing. Let's go on dates, but,

22:14Freshlike Bye.

22:15IslaLet's let's wait a little bit.

22:17Mike RashidNo. Never said that to me.

22:18Speaker 2Yo. I it's

22:20Mike RashidI I would... I don't think I would be attracted to someone who even thinks like that because that's that's a weird,

22:25Mike Rashidlike, hey, just to put this weird rule out there for no... Just arbitrarily.

22:29PenelopeIt's not a rule.

22:30Mike RashidIt is. It is clearly a rule.

22:32IslaBut why didn't she say

22:32Penelopethat you... You're saying is monogamous?

22:35IslaWouldn't she say kinda what you're saying is a rule?

22:36Mike RashidOblating one girl?

22:37IslaNo. No. No. Where you were like, well, no. I I wouldn't I wouldn't wanna fuck with a girl that's...

22:41Myron GainesSo ladies, ladies,

22:44Myron Gainesyou will get a chance to grill us. Don't worry.

22:45Mike RashidBut we just gotta we

22:46Speaker 2gotta we gotta gotta gotta keep the show going as we're saying. My fault.

22:49Myron GainesYeah. No. It's fine. It's fine. So... But they'll get a chance... You guys you guys will get a chance to ask a question as well. Put a pin on that.

22:55FreshBut I think what he's saying though, just to sum

22:57Speaker 2it up, that he's saying that, like, you

22:59Freshknow what? If I meet if I

23:00Kimberlymeet Okay, Barbados.

23:01FreshIf I meet a woman Mhmm. And the vibe is there, why is she gonna hold back just because she she wants to test me, like,

23:07Islaif it... Because maybe she's she's been through some shit.

23:09Speaker 2Well, we're

23:10Chrisjust in this discussion. Don't even

23:11Myron Gainesgo down this road. Don't ever hold. They're not gonna they're not gonna understand.

23:13FreshSo so Mike, for you, how is dating? Good, bad? And what's your current status right now?

23:20Mike RashidDating is dope. Right now, I'm dating a dope ass woman. You know what I mean? So dating is good. It's just

23:27Mike Rashidwith me being dizzy, how long can they get over that initial...

23:32Mike RashidDamn. Know what I'm saying?

23:34ChrisTime.

23:34Mike RashidYeah. Exactly.

23:35Mike RashidBut she seems she seems

23:38Mike Rashidpatient so far. You know what I'm saying? Because when we got time together and all of that, it's dope. It's a vibe. Because it's like this.

23:45Mike RashidDon't harass me about going to Taco Tuesday, all the regular silly shit. Right? Mhmm. Just wait, wait, wait. Alright. Boom. Let's go to Haiti.

23:53Mike RashidAlright. Boom. Let's go to Mexico.

23:54Myron GainesYou know

23:55Mike Rashidwhat I'm saying? Mhmm. When we have fun, we have real fun. Not like take me away from work fun during the week when I need to wake up early in the morning. You know what

24:02FreshI'm saying?

24:03Mike RashidRight. So like y'all are working right now. You know what I'm saying? This is my my life too. Like, I start at 5AM and by the time I'm I go to bed is when I I'm done for the day. Like, I have nothing left. You know what

24:15FreshI'm saying? Damn.

24:15Mike RashidSo I'm not I'm not taking time out for date nights during the week and shit like that. I'm disciplined. You know what saying? And I live a good life because of that.

24:24FreshHustle.

24:24Mike RashidYep. Hustle.

24:25FreshThere you go. Tats.

24:26Myron GainesBoom boom.

24:27FreshYep.

24:27FreshYour

24:28Biancago.

24:29BiancaOkay. So I am not dating anybody or seeing anybody or doing anything with anybody,

24:35Biancaso I'm single. Stop the cap.

24:38Myron GainesReally? Continue on. We're listening.

24:40IslaThat exists.

24:41PenelopeIt does exist. There's so many times in my life I've been celibate for a long period of time because I'm just focused on me and my career.

24:46Mike RashidWhich long?

24:47PenelopeLong? Six months.

24:49PenelopeOkay.

24:50PenelopeLike, up to that. After that, I'm like, damn, I need some d.

24:55FreshShout out to Jason Beau. Okay. Okay. And now, what's your current status? I guess, single?

24:58BiancaSingle.

24:59FreshOkay. Let let me ask you this though. If you could

25:02Freshstep outside of your current status,

25:05Freshwould you do it for the right guy?

25:07FreshLike, let let's say, like, you you are no longer celibate right now, you

25:10Speaker 2want to, like, find somebody and you found the

25:12Freshright guy, would you

25:14Freshgo go with him, basically?

25:15PenelopeIf you

25:16Freshhave any chance?

25:17BiancaYeah. When I'm ready to start dating, then, yeah, I would definitely do that. But I won't even...

25:23BiancaI have that mentality right now where I'm not even trying to look. I'm not even giving somebody the opportunity

25:28BiancaMhmm. To

25:29Biancaprove themselves or,

25:31Biancayou know, if I like them or anything like that. I'm not allowing

25:34Biancathat

25:35Freshto happen. So you're saying right now, if the right guy came to you, you wouldn't even, like, give him a chance?

25:38BiancaNo.

25:40BiancaStop the cat.

25:40FreshOkay.

25:41FreshOkay. Cool.

25:42Myron GainesFair enough. I'm gonna continue on.

25:44BiancaOkay.

25:45Myron GainesI'm I'm reserve... I'm just like listening very intently to everything the ladies say.

25:48Speaker 2Oh, go ahead.

25:50KimberlyI forgot to mention before too, I'm also a lifestyle model.

25:53KimberlyI just wanted to put that spiritual thing out first.

25:55KimberlyOkay.

25:56KimberlyIn the universe. In the universe.

25:58PenelopeAre we gonna do a full moon ceremony later?

26:00KimberlyI'm just saying. I was just...

26:01Speaker 2Didn't hear. Was just like... We could

26:02Kimberlygo to the beach after this. Good girl.

26:04IslaWhat's going on right now?

26:06FreshOkay. Sorry. Okay.

26:07Myron GainesGo ahead.

26:07PenelopeWomen connecting with women.

26:08ChrisWait. Hold on.

26:09Myron GainesDid you finish your thought? You're good?

26:10BiancaMe? Yeah.

26:11FreshI'm good.

26:11Myron GainesOkay. Cool. You're good. Ahead.

26:12KimberlyOh, okay. Sorry. Thanks. Hey, guys. So I'm Kim, and I am single. What was the original? Single?

26:18FreshSo how's dating for you? Do you like it? Do you love it? Is it stress... Stressful? Like...

26:21KimberlyGotcha. Alright. So dating for me, I'm not really dating right now, and I think that's because of COVID. I mean, everybody's pretty much, like, kinda shifting right now.

26:30KimberlyAs far as dating,

26:34KimberlyI'm not.

26:35KimberlyBut it's like when guys do approach me,

26:38KimberlyI'm just very in tune to certain things. So it's just like... I just pay attention to, like, the smallest things, and it's,

26:45Kimberlylike,

26:46KimberlyI'm not really here for your money or, like, to go partying,

26:51Kimberlydo the sections and stuff like that. And I know that's, like, a Miami thing, and I'm not originally from Miami. So it's just like, I came out here for a... I have a vision for myself here in Miami. So it's like, the guys who do actually have the balls to approach me Mhmm. They always think that I'm after something, and it's like, alright, I see where you're heading, and then I just like detach.

27:09KimberlySo with the dating, it's been kinda hard for me because it's just like Mhmm. What I'm looking for is kinda... Is I have to look. Like, I really did have to look into everybody. Like, I have to sit and really talk to you. Like Mhmm. Before I could just come to somebody like, well, I like him. I might wanna talk to him. But then somebody else, I gotta really talk to you because then I talk to you and you're just speaking shit.

27:27PenelopeLike, I'm like, okay, woah, next.

27:30KimberlySo the dating for me right now has just been more on an observatory

27:33Kimberlylevel. Like, I've just been observing like

27:34PenelopeThat's like the friend thing. Like, be just my friend for a bit. Let me observe you.

27:37KimberlyBut with the friend too,

27:38Penelopeso like... From

27:40Penelopea friend,

27:41Kimberlyit depends. Because it's like... Also too, if you text me too much or so, I guess.

27:45VanessaYes.

27:46VanessaLeave me alone.

27:46Speaker 2From the

27:46Kimberlywrong person.

27:47Speaker 2Yeah. It's like...

27:49PenelopeI'm busy working. Do my shit.

27:50KimberlyYeah. But if I like you and you... I gotta text, I'll be like, oh, babe, what

27:54Speaker 2you talking about? Alright. Yeah.

27:56KimberlySo, data for me right now has been really observatory, but it's been slow. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's been real slow just because, like I said, I know how I look on the outside, so I know people think that I'm a Miami girl,

28:07Kimberlyand no disrespect to Miami girls. I don't know who.

28:10IslaI'm a Miami girl.

28:12KimberlyDisrespect. I swear to you.

28:13Mike RashidThey're they're great.

28:14KimberlyYes. They are. Their vibes. Their vibes. But, like, they think I'm just... Yeah. They just feel like they just have... Miami girls have a certain vision or a certain city girl and a... Shout out to the city girls. But it's like, they just think that off rip, and I'm not on that type of timing, so it's just like, bruh,

28:31Kimberlyyou're really saying nothing too much, so...

28:33FreshOkay. So you're single?

28:34KimberlyYeah. I'm single.

28:34Speaker 2There you go.

28:35KimberlyAlright. Bye. Alright.

28:37FreshZendaya in the building.

28:38VanessaZendaya.

28:39VanessaYes. Thank you for having me.

28:42VanessaYeah. I am...

28:43Myron GainesMake some mic,

28:44Myron Gainesplease.

28:45VanessaI am also single right now but currently dating.

28:48VanessaJust meeting people which is also

28:52Vanessamy...

28:53VanessaProbably one of my favorite parts about dating is just meeting different people, learning from different people.

28:59Mike RashidRight.

28:59VanessaYeah. My least favorite part is

29:02Vanessalike when I am in the dating phase because sometimes it gets lonely,

29:06Vanessaknow, like sometimes you really want like,

29:09Vanessayou know, like your person.

29:11VanessaBut

29:12Vanessaalso, like, when you do find the person, my least favorite part is sometimes it doesn't work out, so you can go from like best friends to strangers

29:20Vanessaand then,

29:21Vanessayou know, that never feels good.

29:23FreshSo... How many, strangers do you have in your closet right now?

29:26Speaker 2Oh my god. Two. Two? Two.

29:30Speaker 2Okay.

29:31Speaker 2Okay.

29:31VanessaYes. Both of my last relationships were long term.

29:35FreshCool. And I'm guessing you're single now?

29:37VanessaYes. I'm single

29:38Myron Gainesnow.

29:38FreshAlright, guys. Zendaya is single. Sliding her DMs. Yeah.

29:40KimberlyZendaya and me. Cool.

29:42Myron GainesOkay. Alright. Super chats? Yep. Yeah. Let's hit these super chats real quick. Okay.

29:46FreshThere you go.

29:47Myron GainesWe got smoke 53. 20... Smoke $53.20 dollars. Get those likes up. Thank you so much. Thank you. Japanese symbol that I cannot pronounce, $20. Shout out to Mike Rashid. Dude is the truth. Dude waited for thirteen years. Bruh, my military career only just hit ten years. He was bugging on a whole different level. Facts. We got, Russell,

30:04Myron GainesJurgiri.

30:05Myron GainesCap has reached Goku super saiyan god k o cap times 20. Ultra instinct.

30:10Myron GainesBro, like, it's like...

30:11Mike RashidOh, shit. But

30:13Myron GainesI'm just shutting up and listening. So... Okay. CHF, I think that's

30:17Myron GainesFrank's, some, somewhere in Europe. Man, we got people from all over the world watching us, man. Thank you so much. $100. First time listening in live from Switzerland at 5AM. I'm 26, five zero four, have about a 150 k in the bank. What's the best girls to go for in my case? I don't flaunt my money. Stay away from gold diggers. My friend, you need to get in shape. At five for four, you're gonna be invisible to most girls.

30:36Myron GainesIsa little baby. Shout out to her. Love from Issa Fresh. I don't wanna see those toes tonight. LOL, get the likes of Issa. Facts of Issa.

30:41FreshDid you like like the video?

30:43FreshIt's gonna happen real quick.

30:45Speaker 2Issa. Thanks

30:45Myron Gainesvideo, fellas. Issa's a member of the team, so thank you, Issa, for so much for that support, man. Happy birthday to you. Our former president, your registration has expired. Get off the road. Okay. I don't know who he's talking about, but okay.

30:55Speaker 2I know.

30:56Myron GainesHey. Hey. Al. 20. Oh, he's on my YouTube. Okay.

30:58IslaI think so. Okay.

30:59PenelopeCome on, Donald. Come for me.

31:00Myron GainesOkay. $20.

31:01PenelopeYour money on us.

31:02Myron GainesWe live fresh and fit. Real talk, though. I gotta be honest. The quality is definitely a lot better on Twitch, but keep growing, fellas. And, Myron, get on your left is... Oh, girl on your left is fired. Twitch gang members gang. Hey, man. Send a dick pic onto her Instagram.

31:14Speaker 2Don't

31:15Speaker 2do

31:15Penelopethat. Don't encourage

31:16Islathat.

31:17IslaUh-uh.

31:18VanessaMy Instagram is Vanessa popkins. That's p o p k I n s.

31:22Myron GainesOh, she's popping right now. And,

31:24Myron Gainesguys, he's not lying, bro. Like, it's just that Twitch is made for streaming and the quality tends to be better. So go ahead on twitch.tv/

31:30Myron Gainesfresh and fit podcast. Okay? One more.

31:31FreshFour k ten eighty p.

31:32Myron GainesSo...

31:33Myron GainesGuys, keep the sub train going.

31:34FreshWe got a sub train going right now. Help us get to, like, 1,500 subs. Thank you, guys. And

31:40Myron Gaineswho... Someone... Who donated five subs? Oh, send

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31:44Myron GainesSend for rent.

31:44ChrisSix months for now.

31:45FreshFive more subs.

31:46Myron GainesThank you so much for that, bro.

31:47FreshYo. Don't let Marco for him, man.

31:48Mike RashidI just

31:48Chrisgot it.

31:49Myron GainesThank you. Okay.

31:50Myron GainesAnd we're almost done here. So okay, Gabriel Casas, can the ladies admit they've they've kept seeing a man they knew would never put a ring on it? Facts, bro. They ain't gonna admit that, though.

31:57PenelopeOkay. There's

31:59Penelopeso many other men to date. Let them go.

32:02Myron GainesOkay. Black Wolf Hank, $20. Marian, is it hurricane season? Because we got a category five cat storm right now. Hurricane cataphysters here.

32:09FreshThe Love the cataphys. Yeah.

32:10Myron GainesYou know what time it is. Johnny Bliss.

32:11FreshJohnny Bliss. The

32:13Freshreason why you aren't dating is is because you babble too much. My goodness.

32:16Myron GainesHoly shit.

32:17Speaker 2You

32:19Speaker 2got rebuttal?

32:20Myron GainesYou got rebuttal back to?

32:21KimberlyI think I should just say 25, that's number seven. I'm seven gang all day. Go.

32:24Speaker 2Oh, shit. Okay.

32:28FreshHarry Bowles Grande. Yeah. $20.

32:30FreshYou need to add a De Chappelle wrap it up box to your song war.

32:33Myron GainesYeah. I got this one though.

32:34FreshOkay.

32:35FreshMalone, $20 Canadian. Girls, hear me out real quick. I'm not giving it up until the fifth date. It's equivalent to a guy spending zero dollars until the fifth date. Have fun on your walks in the park while you keep playing games. Shame my head.

32:45Myron GainesDear, thanks.

32:47Myron GainesMarcus infinity twenty hours, which men or women are in today's society more likely to be virgins and could they define involuntary celibate?

32:54Myron GainesWomen can be single but they're never alone. Yeah, facts.

32:57FreshThank you for subs. Official a a l. Yeah. Donated phy subs.

33:00Myron GainesThank you so much for that on Twitch, guys.

33:01FreshWe see all your guys in Twitch, guys.

33:02Myron GainesYeah. Do. Trey's running the Twitch, and, Chris is running the YouTube guys. So... And Chris can see all of them putting the Twitch chats up as well. So thank you, and the members and super chats. Will I ruin her forgot the cap. It seems the ladies are interested in talking over everyone else, grilling the host, guests not giving simple straight answer. This ain't the view and my brain hurts having to decipher woman ease. Hey, man. It's fine, bro.

33:22PenelopeGood luck to you, bro.

33:23Myron GainesJames Epkins junior.

33:24Myron GainesWoo. The girl with the comic book shirt is long winded. Oh,

33:28Islayeah. Winded.

33:29KimberlyAbsolutely geek. Is that me?

33:31Speaker 2Yeah. No. Yeah.

33:33ChrisHe basically...

33:34Speaker 2What does that

33:34Vanessamean? What does that mean?

33:35Speaker 2What does

33:35Freshthat You took it on.

33:37Speaker 2Oh, I thought

33:37KimberlyOh, my bad.

33:37PenelopeMy

33:39Penelopebad.

33:40VanessaThis has a lot to say, man.

33:41Myron GainesOkay. Absolutely, geek. Much respect to the growth and work. Glad to see these conversations happening long overdue. And

33:48Myron Gainesthen $20 Blitzjack, the sound effects are low, Marian. Okay. We'll turn those up. Tray get... Tray's on that. Thank you very much.

33:54FreshSo So next question, ladies.

33:55PenelopeHe paid $20 to say that?

33:57Myron GainesYeah. Of course. Yeah.

33:57FreshLet us let

33:58Speaker 2us know.

33:58KimberlyCash money.

33:59ChrisLet's go.

34:00ChrisLadies.

34:01ChrisWait.

34:03Myron GainesPaul, pause. Go

34:03Chrisahead, Do not mock our audience because they fuck with us heavy. So if they pay $20 to let us know, hey, Chris, the limit is $20 and up to read super chats, they will let us know.

34:13FreshYep. Simple as that. And we appreciate all for the

34:14Myron Gainestime,

34:15Penelopebro. Do not laugh at

34:17Freshchat niggas.

34:18Mike RashidYou know

34:18Freshwhat to do. Alright. Anyhow. Alright.

34:19ChrisChat niggas, you know.

34:20FreshSo real quick, ladies.

34:22FreshSo tell me, right,

34:24Fresha time where

34:26Freshyou met somebody

34:27Freshand it turned you off, what did they do? So you met a guy, he lose everything you wanted and he turned you off.

34:33Speaker 2Oh, I gotta get rid

34:34FreshAnd tell me one thing that turned you on. So... And then Mike's

34:37Myron Gainesgonna ask the next question.... Thing off. Then the ladies can grill us and we'll do the reaction.

34:40ChrisWe'll start

34:41Freshfrom Zendaya over here.

34:42VanessaOkay.

34:43VanessaOkay.

34:44VanessaSo I actually recently met this guy who I thought was like super sweet. He did like everything right until

34:51Vanessalike the last time I saw him,

34:53Vanessalike, we were hanging out with my friends

34:56Vanessaand he got super drunk and was just

35:00Vanessabeing like weird,

35:01Vanessalike kind of annoying.

35:03VanessaMhmm. And then also, I was visiting my family in Maryland, that's where I'm from.

35:08FreshShout to Baltimore.

35:09VanessaYeah. Shout out to Baltimore.

35:11VanessaAnd

35:13VanessaI wanted to just go home and like spend some time with my mom, you know, because I had only left... Had a couple days left.

35:20VanessaAnd

35:21Vanessahe, like, was being really pushy about, like, wanting to come with me and, like, you know, hang out.

35:27KimberlyYeah. Like, what?

35:28VanessaRed flag.

35:29VanessaRed flag, you know, like... Because, you know, I was really nice about it, you know. I'm like, I just have a little bit of time left with my mom, I just wanted to spend some time with her.

35:38VanessaNothing personal, you know, like, I had a great time with you but,

35:41Vanessayou know, and he just kind of kept like passive aggressively, like, pushing like, okay, well, I really wish I could come with you, you know, like,

35:49Penelopeand... What the The thirst.

35:50FreshKinda weird.

35:51VanessaSo, yeah, that really threw me off and...

35:53Myron GainesNo. Hold on. You gotta peel it back a layer.

35:55Mike RashidDid you

35:55Myron Gaineshave sex with him?

35:56PenelopeYes. Did.

35:56FreshIt's the whap.

35:57Myron GainesIt's It's

35:58Myron Gainesand and

35:59Speaker 2It's the whap. How many

36:00Myron Gainestimes did you guys hang out before you fucked him?

36:03Myron GainesFirst time?

36:04IslaTwo.

36:04Myron GainesTwo times prior? Yeah. And like, did he like take you out on like extravagant like situations like maybe a nice date or took you out somewhere nice or whatever?

36:12VanessaIt wasn't anything extravagant, no.

36:15Myron GainesOkay. Where did... Did he take you like to a nice restaurant?

36:18Myron GainesLike, nice nice spot?

36:20VanessaLike, no. It wasn't really that nice.

36:22FreshNo. That's kinda weird, bro.

36:23VanessaLike... But, like, it it

36:24Myron GainesI always gotta peel back a layer, bro.

36:26Speaker 2Girls can

36:26Myron Gainestry to make dudes sound crazy, bro. But, like, they don't tell you everything behind the scenes.

36:29FreshI know. But, like, for him to push to go oh, where No.

36:32IslaBut that is crazy.

36:33FreshMother, that's kinda weird, Like, weird. That's some

36:35IslaLike, could you do that?

36:36Myron GainesThat's weird, bro. No. No. I wouldn't. But Okay. But here's

36:38Speaker 2the thing though.

36:38Mike RashidI was asking your mother or just a

36:41Speaker 2girl who was be

36:42Mike Rashidalready already met my mother. Like, we could do some shit while we're out there. It wasn't like that. It was like specifically to meet your mother.

36:50VanessaNo.

36:50VanessaBecause he already met my mother.

36:52FreshSee, that's weird.

36:53KimberlyI think he just wanted to solidify his spot, like, nah, this is mine.

36:56VanessaI think he was just being really clingy

36:58FreshYeah.

36:58VanessaAnd not leave it to him too much. He wants a wife and I'm a rock star and not a wife.

37:03IslaOkay.

37:04IslaYou know, so...

37:05FreshThere you go.

37:07Myron GainesAlright. You said you're

37:07Kimberlya rock star,

37:08Myron Gainesnot a wife.

37:09PenelopeA rock star.

37:09Myron GainesOh, a rock star and

37:10Speaker 2not a wife.

37:10VanessaOkay. A rock star.

37:11FreshWait. So you don't wanna be married at

37:13VanessaEventually,

37:14Vanessayeah, maybe.

37:14Myron GainesOut of curiosity, how old

37:16Speaker 2was he?

37:16Myron GainesHow old was he?

37:17Vanessa30.

37:17Myron GainesAnd you are?

37:19Vanessa22.

37:19FreshOkay. Holy smokes.

37:21Myron GainesAlright. Just out

37:21Freshof You think he would... Okay. Never mind.

37:23Myron GainesYeah. Never mind.

37:24KimberlyAlright? Okay.

37:25VanessaI'm gonna get a quick b, guys.

37:26FreshTurn on, turn off.

37:27KimberlyAlright.

37:28KimberlyAlright. So I met some dude off Instagram. He wanted to go out. We went to the club. Okay. He was a part of the entourage. He wasn't like the main or whatever. I don't care about that, but whatever.

37:35Mike RashidOf who?

37:37Mike RashidWho's entourage?

37:38Speaker 2Come on. Not so

37:41Speaker 2mad. Don't get messy like that.

37:43Mike RashidYou're shitty.

37:43KimberlyFresh and

37:49Mike RashidNo. You didn't have to say he's a part of somebody's entourage.

37:52KimberlyBecause I wanted... Because it's setting the tone for the story.

37:54FreshOkay.

37:55Mike RashidBut I don't understand the concept, but I don't know what

37:57Speaker 2it is. The Kevin

37:58Mike RashidHart story, an honorage Drake?

38:00Speaker 2No. No. No.

38:01KimberlyOh, no. Not that big.

38:02Speaker 2Not even know.

38:03KimberlyBut he's part of the entourage. He's like sports guys, sports people.

38:06FreshOkay. Can't

38:06Kimberlyspell. Right. So I was talking to him. We went to the club. That was cool. We went. And then... But, like, the...

38:13KimberlyEverybody that was at the section, they were drinking white liquor, and I really like... I prefer dark liquor.

38:18KimberlySo I asked him. You know, I'm like, yo. I didn't ask him. Was like, yo. I don't drink this. I'm gonna go to the bar.

38:23KimberlyWhen I say... Alright. So I'm gonna go to the bar and get my drink. I went to the bar. He made sure he followed me to the bar. Right? He wanna make sure I got to the bar okay. But when I got to the bar, he didn't pay for my drink because I guess he paid for the section or whatever it is.

38:35KimberlyBut I wanted I wanted my separate drink, like, my separate drink, and he didn't pay for it. So was just like, wow. So, I paid it myself, which is fine, but I had a mental note, like, I'm broke.

38:45Speaker 2Then, he was like, hey, know. Yeah.

38:47TreyWell, he said he said you're broke?

38:49KimberlyOr, Chivalry is dead for you and you're not

38:51Mike Rashidon my side.... Section.

38:53KimberlyWell, broke. Alright. I don't know if he paid for section. I just put that in there to be, you know.

38:57Mike RashidOkay.

38:57KimberlyI just added that in there. Ew. Ew.

38:59Speaker 2Give him a little something. But, like...

39:02Speaker 2Yeah.

39:03KimberlySo

39:04Kimberlywe went to the bar. The fact of the matter is that he walked me. He literally walked me to the bar to make sure that nobody else could talk to me on my way to the bar, but you didn't pay for the shit.

39:11Mike RashidWide, though? For sure.

39:13KimberlyNot for sure, but my intuition is pretty good. What it seemed like.

39:17Mike RashidBut intuition is not a real thing.

39:19IslaI mean, why else

39:20Speaker 2now? Follow intuition.

39:21PenelopeYou don't know. Thank you. Why else why else I

39:23Kimberlyknow how to get to the bar.

39:24Mike RashidMake sure you're good.

39:25IslaThat's what she said. Exactly.

39:27PenelopeSo now that you need to buy her drink.

39:28KimberlyWhat do you mean do? Like, won't get in jumped?

39:30Speaker 2Why do

39:30Mike Rashidyou think like that?

39:31KimberlyI wouldn't get two pieced on my way to, like, get a drink.

39:33Mike RashidAll kind of shit happens.

39:35Mike RashidAlright. Okay.

39:36KimberlyExactly. Well, I was gonna get I was gonna get jumped by some ladies I don't know because I'm not from the area.

39:40Mike RashidThat's a ridiculous thing for me to say.

39:42Myron GainesOut of curiosity

39:43KimberlyIt's not ridiculous for you to say, but it's just like, you

39:45Mike Rashidknow It's ridiculous for a guy to walk... To be a gentleman and walk you to the bar.

39:48Speaker 2But not a

39:48Kimberlyday. But that

39:49Speaker 2way a

39:50Penelope$10 or $20 drink?

39:51KimberlyThere we go.

39:55Mike RashidFor you to pay for a $10 drink?

39:56KimberlyNo. It wasn't.

39:57Mike RashidI don't see the problem.

39:59PenelopeBut if you wanna get laid,

40:00Speaker 2can pay

40:00Myron Gainesfor the drink. Hold on. Hold on.

40:01Mike RashidHold Hold on. On.

40:05Myron GainesDon't show you.

40:07Myron GainesHold on. Let Let let him make his point and then you can and then then you can chime in Alright. With her one at a time because it's really bad radio. And

40:13Myron Gainesas we spell drinks on the table. Here.

40:17Myron GainesSorry.

40:17IslaYeah. Quit making.

40:18Myron GainesHold on. We got some we got some paper towels here. Thank you, Trey.

40:21FreshThank you very much. So...

40:21Myron GainesWe have it on... We're always ready. Alright. Go ahead.

40:24Mike RashidSo... Did you did y'all hang out after that?

40:27KimberlyNo. It was it was my first time meeting him.

40:29Mike RashidAnd that was it?

40:30KimberlyYeah. I made sure that it... That was it.

40:32Mike RashidOkay. So you didn't know because you said he might be broke, but you didn't know because he could have paid for that sex.

40:38KimberlyI didn't even care about the brokenness. Sorry.

40:39PenelopeBut It's just a feeling.

40:40Mike RashidYou said it.

40:41KimberlyOh, sorry. No. No. No. No. It wasn't broke. Oh, I don't I don't remember saying broke. I mean, I'm... I said broke, but I didn't mean it, like, as far as, like, oh, he's broke. Sign him off. I meant, like, chivalry is dead for him and I want chivalry.

40:51Speaker 2Really? Hold

40:52Kimberlyon. Yes. It is. Really?

40:53Speaker 2Let me ask

40:54Freshyou that because we we send a podcast. Right? If you're gonna take a girl on a date, you should pay

40:58Speaker 2for everything and I'll explain why. You see how you said... You took a

41:00Freshmental note, oh, this guy isn't paying for this? Girls will do that all the time. If you say, okay, I'm gonna take her out to to a restaurant or to a bar or whatever and you don't pay, it looks weird because you're inviting her on a date. And secondly, if you're amenable with things, bro, you're gonna pay. $20, bro, that's not gonna kill you. And guess what? That one mistake, he... She wrote

41:18Penelopehim On

41:18Fresha date. Wrote him off. Yeah. So I'm just saying, if you're a guy and you're taking a girl on a date, nigga, just pay it, bro. Like...

41:23Mike RashidBut know what? Like, honestly, bro, I hear you, but

41:27Mike Rashidnot really. If we're at dinner and

41:31Mike Rashidthe bill come around and I'm like,

41:34Mike Rashidthen that's... Yeah. You're fucking up. Or like, alright. You got this part or that's fucked. That's weird. Right? Yeah. But if it's a situation... Let's say I bought I bought bottles. Right?

41:44Mike RashidAnd

41:45Mike Rashidyou go... You wanna go get something different. Right?

41:48Mike RashidI don't know. Maybe he like, damn, she don't appreciate what we got here. Because... And if he bought... If you got a section, you got a girl over there. So she can... She'll bring additional shit. Like, it's not really a reason to go to the bar. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. For you. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. But I don't know. Maybe it's weird. Maybe it threw him off.

42:07Myron GainesLike Mm-mm.

42:08Speaker 2Like, why she Wait. Have to go No. Let me... Oh, wait. Let me just ask her.

42:10Mike RashidBecause because when we when we have a section in a club, we're sufficient

42:15Mike Rashidwhere we're at. We don't gotta go nowhere unless it's bathroom.

42:17KimberlyExactly. Exactly.

42:18Mike RashidBut the ladies too, they don't go to the bar.

42:20KimberlyExactly.

42:21KimberlyExactly. So let me clarify that part. Alright. That's why that's why I said that he was probably entouraged.

42:26Mike RashidBut you you said that from the gate that he was entourage.

42:28KimberlyYeah. I said that so that I could set the tone for the story so that you can know. Alright. So now

42:33Kimberlyhis brother was in sports.

42:37KimberlyBrother is

42:38Speaker 2the one

42:38Mike Rashidwho... Oh, played for her.

42:39KimberlyI don't know. This was my long ago. I'm not even for sport. I'm not I don't know teams, like, I'm not... Track and field okay, but other than that, I don't really know. His brother was a part of the sports. He invited me out to go to the club. Right?

42:51KimberlyLike I said,

42:53Kimberlythe section was brought, I'm assuming,

42:56Kimberlyfrom his brother, not from him, just from the vibe. You could go somewhere and tell who Yeah. Is the person. You can tell who's the boss and who's the entourage.

43:04KimberlyAnd even entourage can make their self look like a boss, but in his case, he just...

43:09IslaWell, he did. If he

43:10Kimberlybought that $20 if he bought that $20 drink, I would have probably said he bought the section. But the fact that he... I walked to the bar... I'm

43:17Mike Rashidsorry. I just got a problem with Alright. This whole Forget the I'm a why. I'm a tell you why.

43:20Myron GainesOkay. Listen.

43:23Mike RashidI'm not like... I observe things myself. Mhmm. For a woman to be like, I'm taking mental notes. I don't care. Especially if I don't know you. Right? You're not important to me yet. Just like I'm not important to you yet. Mhmm. However,

43:34Mike Rashidyou're not in a position to make my life comfortable. Mhmm. Maybe be nice to me and peaceful,

43:39Mike Rashidbut I'm in a position to make your life comfortable.

43:41Mike RashidSo

43:42Mike RashidI'm not looking at people

43:44Mike Rashidtaking notes on what I pay for because the things that I'll be paying for are way more meaningful than a $20 drink.

43:50KimberlyBut you'll never know something.

43:51Mike RashidA car,

43:53Mike Rashidwhatever. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. So... And that's my that's my reality. Right?

43:58Mike RashidIf... You know what I'm saying? Like, nobody... No woman in my life would bother me about $20.

44:03VanessaMhmm.

44:04Mike RashidBecause it's not meaningful. It's $20. You know what saying? So personally, I'm not out in clubs.

44:10Mike RashidMaybe back in the day I was.

44:12Mike RashidIf we're out, it's a it's a fly restaurant. If we're clubs out the country, because I don't like silly

44:17Mike Rashidshit. Right? Mhmm. And I don't like being where everybody's at, being accessible to people. Mhmm. But

44:22Mike RashidI don't know. I feel like it's weird to be like, oh, it's a new in favor. Mhmm.

44:27Mike RashidIt's like buy your own drink. Like, I think that's cool. I don't see nothing wrong with that. Mhmm. Buy your drink. Let me stop right now. I got it. Whatever. But

44:35Mike RashidI don't know. A $20

44:37Mike Rashidor $10 purchase

44:39Mike Rashidto really, you know, judge somebody on, like... And thinking about he ain't a boss. He just an entourage. It's the wrong situation to begin with.

44:48KimberlyMaybe I should have never started my story with the entourage part.

44:51Mike RashidBut you should because that was part of your your thought process.

44:54KimberlyBut then though, that's where you're carrying it to because honestly,

44:57Kimberlya meant... But... Yeah. But a mental note, you're not gonna know because it's a mental note. Only God will know what

45:02Mike Rashidthe hell But you you chose not to see him anymore because he didn't

45:06FreshI never said I

45:07Kimberlydidn't even said that part of the story.

45:08FreshDidn't say that. I

45:09Mike Rashidasked you I asked you did you see him after that? You said you said you you did not. You made sure

45:13Speaker 2you didn't because that.

45:14KimberlyFrom Miami.

45:15KimberlyHow about that?...

45:17Mike RashidMatter if he paid for

45:18Freshit now. I'm gonna say

45:19Myron Gainesno matter if he paid

45:19Speaker 2for it. Know, because

45:20Myron GainesI can already tell we're gonna go back and forth on this. I just have a simple question. Yeah. Would you con... Would you consider yourself...

45:26Myron GainesDo you believe in like traditional roles between men and women?

45:29KimberlyI wanna say evolved evolved version of that. Okay.

45:33Myron GainesBecause because you... I'm... From your look and everything, you don't... You you look very unique, you don't strike me as like... You...

45:39Myron GainesAs a traditional woman. Typical. Right?

45:41Myron GainesWould you consider yourself a tradition?

45:43KimberlyI consider myself a virtuous woman.

45:45Myron GainesA virtuous? But are you traditional?

45:47KimberlyTraditional. I... No. Not traditional. It's like evolve evolve traditional. I... Can

45:52Myron Gainesyou define can you define like evolve traditional? Because that's a very ambiguous term.

45:55KimberlyAlright. So for instance, like,

45:58Kimberlyas far as

46:00Kimberlya man is going to

46:03Kimberlydo certain things when he's interested

46:05Myron GainesUh-huh. Yep.

46:07KimberlyI agree. I'm not saying he's gonna spend bankrolls, no. But just certain things like, he's going to show that he cares. So, like, if I'm over here shivering a little bit and he puts something

46:15Kimberlyover me, it's not that it's tradition, it's just that, oh, he cares that he sees me, I'm a little cold and he's Mhmm. He's considering that I'm a little cold. But it's not that it's that I'm a woman and it's like, she's a woman, she's cold. No.

46:26Myron GainesBut what if what if what if like you were dating the guy and he told you I need you to make me food, I need you to cook and clean you, I need you to stay home, I need you to do all that, would you be cool with that?

46:32KimberlyIt's not that I need... I wouldn't mind doing it but it's not like it etched in stone, no. Like, I...

46:40Speaker 2So, yeah. So so it's negotiable....

46:42KimberlyGive and take. Feel like

46:43Speaker 2it's a

46:43Kimberlygive and take. Yeah. So if you've given me something and I... Like, we balance. If you want me to do that but you're providing certain things, I'll do it, baby. It's whatever. It's a balance for me.

46:52Myron GainesOkay. So but you... So but you're not, like, traditional, it's like evolved traditionalism which is...

46:56KimberlyYeah, like, the woman will stay home, I will stay home, but if you're providing, yeah, honestly, I will get bored so I'll still probably get my hand into something.

47:04FreshAny hobby?

47:05KimberlyAny hobby, yeah. But if if that's... If you feel strong about it and I don't feel strong about something... If I don't have a passion for something, basically, alright, if it doesn't go against my passion, I'll I'll I'll roll with it and and we're balancing out the whatever,

47:17KimberlyI'll go with

47:18Speaker 2it.

47:18Myron GainesI'm I'm gonna just keep it a stack with you because it's very obvious and I've been like paying attention. You want a traditional man but you don't really wanna adhere to traditional female traits. You know what I'm saying? Like, you expect him to kinda be, like, a chivalrous gentleman at all times while, like, your roles are negotiable.

47:31KimberlyHow did I give that? Because I still like to be in the strip club and all that shit, like, it's not about your dish. I just want him to, like...

47:37Myron GainesThat's what I'm saying. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. You want you want him to be a traditional gentleman but you don't have to be a traditional woman is what I'm trying to say.

47:44KimberlyDon't get how... See, how did you get that?

47:46Myron GainesHe's gotta stick to a certain role as a traditional man. He's... Because you expected him to buy the drink which is fine. You expect him to be like a gentleman

47:52Speaker 2Hold on.

47:53KimberlyBut I didn't say but Hold on. You guys

47:55Freshare I got I got... I understand where you're coming from because Okay. Think about this, right? I know how club club gang works, I tell the girls all the time and he followed her to the bar, right? We got sectioned. That whole move was weak, bro.

48:07KimberlyHere we go.

48:07FreshIf you were the chick, right, she's in your section, she wants to go buy a drink, go ahead. I'm not paying I'm not paying for that shit, I'm not going over there. You go ahead... You you go ahead over there, it's done. But you follow her to the bar saying, you know what? If niggas try to talk to her, I'm a scope shit. Amen. And then she goes to buy a drink, he's like, now you go pay for it.

48:23KimberlyAmen. You

48:24Kimberlycaught blocking, bro.

48:25FreshI understand

48:26Speaker 2how ghosts No. No.

48:27KimberlyI'm sorry.

48:27FreshI understand how ghosts think and it makes sense to me in that sense but is it is it realistic?

48:31FreshYou know? But I understand

48:32Mike Rashidhow he comes up.

48:33Myron GainesHe's he's under no obligation to buy her a drink

48:35Kimberlyafter which

48:36Speaker 2is why

48:36KimberlyI brought up... Pulled up my card and paid for it but like I said, I'm meant to know. He's like to know what I've noted then don't follow.

48:41IslaLike, what? How does that

48:42Freshmake sense? Exactly.... Following part.

48:43Speaker 2If he doesn't

48:44Mike Rashidknow what you noted, how do you know his intentions on following you or

48:48Myron Gaineswalking with you to the bar? It it... Yeah. It's it's just funny because women always want to be... Women want to be treated treated like traditional ladies, they want to get chivalry and they want to get gentlemen and all that but they want to be able to absolve themselves of traditional female roles at the same time and that's why that's why I kind of laugh because it's like, you want to be modern when it suits you but then you want to be treated like a lady when it suits you too and that's b s. I'm just gonna keep it a stack, like Mhmm. You you know what I'm saying? And, like, ladies, that's just how it is and it's like, why walk me to

49:13Kimberlythe bar? Why did you walk with me to the bar? Was your You didn't bring your card, you didn't bring nothing, you just brought you. Why?

49:19FreshSee, he did it wrong though. The movement was wrong.

49:21KimberlyWhy did you bring yourself?

49:22Myron GainesI know. I

49:23Myron GainesI I think when you have a section, like, her even getting up to go buy a drink is already, like, that's

49:28Myron Gainesvery disrespectful. That's weird as hell.

49:29FreshBut see, I would have told her, go. You handle that shit, but I'm not gonna go follow you.

49:33Speaker 2Why am

49:33Mike Rashidgonna fall you apart? I'm not gonna send you off by yourself. I'll send one of my guys or I'm gonna come with you.

49:39IslaWell, just order them

49:40Speaker 2the bottle

49:40Islaof Wait. Hold on. That's what I was gonna ask. When he

49:52Myron GainesHey, guys. Hold on. On.

49:54FreshOn. So we

49:54Myron Gainesgot a big $500 shipping check from our boy, black lemur 2,009. It's okay to just say you're not traditional. That's what I'm saying, bro.

50:00Mike RashidYo. Black women. You

50:02Myron Gainesknow, boy, mister organic, twenty eight hour. Shout out to him. Gargoyle gang. Organic. Shout out to the best podcast on Earth. Three of them. Thank you so much, bro. Appreciate it, man.

50:09FreshShout out organic.

50:10Myron GainesShout to

50:12Myron Gaineslemur. Shout out I'm not attacking you for your views. I'm just saying, like, you know, we gotta pick and choose one. Trust me,

50:17KimberlyI'm not Keep it coming.

50:19Myron GainesBut... Okay. Let's continue on because we we got stuck here too long. Yeah.

50:22FreshHave super chats. Chats.

50:24Myron GainesLet's do one more lady then we'll hit the super chats. Okay. Because we're we're behind here.

50:27FreshGo ahead. So one thing you when you were dating at least, one thing you... That turned you on, one thing that turned you off?

50:34BiancaOkay. So

50:36Biancawhat turned me off,

50:38BiancaI'm not a very touchy feely person

50:41Biancaand I did go out on a date once, you know, we went to grab drinks,

50:46Biancawe danced a little but

50:48Biancathey were... They always wanted to hug me or touch me and I

50:53Biancadon't like that. I don't even really like that in public with my boyfriend, if I have a boyfriend.

50:59FreshDamn.

50:59BiancaYeah. I don't like to be touched.

51:02BiancaSo he was very touchy feely. Obviously, you get drinks in you and you become a little bit more, you know, loose

51:10BiancaBut... Too loose.

51:11BiancaLoose.

51:13BiancaOkay.

51:13Myron GainesOkay. Fair enough.

51:14FreshSo then what turns you on then, you would say?

51:18Mike RashidNo touching.

51:27BiancaTouch me to a certain extent.

51:29BiancaOkay. But

51:32Biancasomething that I like...

51:33BiancaOh, I don't really know.

51:36BiancaI don't really have anything Okay. Specific for that. I I...

51:40FreshSo it just happens and

51:40Speaker 2then you're, like, into it?

51:41BiancaIt's very natural. Whatever I like, I like.

51:45FreshThat is so vague.

51:46Speaker 2Oh, okay. Wait.

51:47Myron GainesWe'll move off

51:48Mike Rashidfrom here.

51:48Myron GainesThere's there's actually studies that show that women don't know what they want. Yeah. Like, if we're gonna be...

51:52Speaker 2I can

51:52Chrissee that.

51:53KimberlyNot all. That's true.

51:54Speaker 2Can see that....

51:55Mike RashidVery true.

51:55Myron GainesYeah. Until

51:56Myron Gainesyou

51:57Mike Rashidget what they like.

51:58Myron GainesYeah. Like, a woman will tell you I'm aroused by this and it's bullshit, like, she won't... She's not aroused

52:02Freshby this. And we're have Marian, get the stats on on why that's, true. Yeah. Yeah. But sorry. Go ahead. Mike, one thing that turns you on about a grill, what then it turns you off about a

52:12Mike RashidTurns me on

52:13Mike Rashidone thing?

52:15Mike RashidSo many. I'm sorry. Okay. Are

52:19Mike Rashidwe talking about physical

52:21Mike Rashidtraits or just

52:22Mike Rashidpersonality or how the vibes on a on a date or

52:26Freshhanging out?

52:26Mike RashidIt could

52:26Freshbe like the smell. It could be how she speaks. It could be...

52:29Speaker 2Yeah. That's a good question.

52:30Mike RashidYeah. Just a a calm, peaceful demeanor.

52:33Mike RashidYou know what I'm saying? And and a solid...

52:35Mike RashidOkay.

52:36Mike RashidI love women that don't give off the impression that they're they're available or they're... I like them for them to be, you know, sweet and nice, but Mhmm. Not like

52:46Mike RashidI'm open to anything. You know what I'm saying? So

52:49FreshLike, ghost from New

52:50Speaker 2York.

52:51Speaker 2Yeah.

52:52FreshAttitude, my

52:53Speaker 2bitch.

52:53Speaker 2She's probably young. But

52:57Myron GainesI know

52:57Kimberlythat it's a compliment. Okay.

53:00Myron GainesKnow what mean?

53:01Mike RashidYeah. Because some girls are like

53:03Mike RashidMhmm. Just aloof

53:05Mike Rashidand act like they don't know...

53:07Mike RashidYou know what I'm saying? People are throwing their dicks at them. You know what saying?

53:09Myron GainesLike Too

53:10Speaker 2funny. Really?

53:11FreshToo funny.

53:12Mike RashidYeah. I don't like that. I'm not into that. Thanks.

53:16Mike RashidTurn off would be...

53:19Mike RashidI don't know.

53:20FreshJust someone... Turn on. Turn on. Turn on. Because we did get turn turn off. Right?

53:23Mike RashidI said turn on.

53:24FreshOh, okay. Yeah. Cool.

53:25Mike RashidTurn

53:27Mike Rashidoff is just

53:29Mike Rashidshit.

53:30Mike RashidThe opposite of that. Yeah. That's too easy. But I guess someone who's just like, you know, there's some people like to

53:39Mike Rashiddisagree and argue for the sake of arguing.

53:41Mike RashidThere's no real reason. It's like, we agree on this, like,

53:44Myron Gainesare you...

53:45Mike RashidYou don't... You

53:46Treyhate me motherfucker?

53:47Mike RashidLike, you know what mean?

53:48Speaker 2I thought we like each other,

53:49Mike Rashidright? Yeah.

53:50Mike RashidPeople was weird. You know what mean? So, yeah, something like that.

53:53Myron GainesAwesome. Cool.

53:54FreshReal quick.

53:54Speaker 2We got

53:55Freshon our bar...

53:56Myron GainesWith the big $200.

53:57Myron GainesYou so much.

53:58FreshMarian the Grey is a man who expresses great patience. I try. He shall make you question your reality in only a little time. Question for ladies.

54:05FreshHave you ever left a guy you were dating for one of his friends?

54:08Myron GainesWe could go just go yes or

54:09Chrisno real quick, cross yes or no.

54:10Speaker 2Thank you

54:11Myron Gainesso much, on a broader That's a good question. Yes or no? Oh, this way?

54:14FreshYeah. This way.

54:15Myron GainesYes or no?

54:15PenelopeNo. No, I haven't.

54:17JanelliNo. No.

54:20Speaker 2Nah. No.

54:21Speaker 2Okay, cool.

54:23Myron GainesI I I don't believe that but okay. They're not gonna admit that but that's fine. Okay.

54:27PenelopeDoes everything that we say that's, like, our answer, you have to always just assume it's a lie?

54:33Myron GainesBecause women are never going to tell unflatting realities about how they really mace life with opposite gender. Yeah.

54:38PenelopeI would. But that's not always true either.

54:41VanessaI mean, yeah, what if we don't care?

54:42PenelopeLike, what do we really what do we really have to here, like, why do we need to lie to these random people, like, why can't we just

54:49Speaker 2keep this whole host?

54:49Mike RashidNoah watching it too.

54:50Myron GainesYeah. There's people that you know. There's there's a great deal and I could talk about a study about this but there's a great deal of pressure on women to have a certain image and contrary to what society tells you about being sexually liberated, being open about your sexuality, whatever, you're always going to naturally repress it because women understand that their value comes from their chastity.

55:08Myron GainesSo

55:09Penelopeanyway... Men make their value. Maybe for like chastity though. Psychology made...

55:13Myron GainesNo. It's it's not... It's it's it's it's biological. It's, like, not choose... It's not even... We don't choose that. It's, like, instinctually hardwired in men to wanna deal with a woman that's chest.

55:21Myron GainesThere's a reason why a woman wears a white dress when she walks down the aisle to get married. There's a reason why women

55:25Speaker 2won't do

55:26Islathat anymore. That's, like, so... Like, they still do but people don't even get married anymore, like, they don't do the whole ceremony anymore Okay. Or they wear, like, black dresses, like, we're

55:35Isladoing different things.

55:35Myron GainesYou could say that but, like, most women want to get married and walk down

55:38Islathe aisle. But do you know most women?

55:40Myron GainesYes. Most women wanna get married.

55:42FreshWe've spoken

55:42Speaker 2to hundreds

55:43Mike Rashidof women.

55:45Mike RashidOkay.

55:45Myron GainesBut you're

55:45Islaalso in Miami, so, like, this is a a different breed of women. Trying to

55:49Myron Gainestell you, like, we've we've spoken to hundreds of women on this podcast. Oh, okay.

55:53ChrisSame chair.

55:53Myron GainesOn a bout of probabilities Yeah. Most women wanna get married. They might say, no, or I'm okay with it or whatever, but most women want to get married to one man and have some type of security to some degree. How old are

56:04Isla25.

56:05Myron GainesExactly. Like, women that... As they get older, that that changes drastically.

56:09Myron GainesBut what's eight, 29, 30, it changes drastically.

56:11IslaBut saying time, like, you're only looking at one stat, like, at the same time, like, women are now more in college than they've ever been.

56:16Mike RashidThey're like... They do wanna be married.

56:18IslaThat's not what I'm saying

56:19Speaker 2but at

56:19Islathe same time, we can't be

56:20Mike Rashidlike...

56:21Mike RashidYou don't wanna go there, don't wanna be married?

56:23IslaYeah, I do. Yeah. And they're in their thirties, like...

56:26Myron GainesThat's that's cap.

56:27Mike RashidDo you think they don't wanna be married or they're being defensive because they feel like they don't have a Absolutely.

56:31Myron GainesA There you go.

56:32Mike RashidA good chance, a good There

56:33Freshyou go.

56:34Myron GainesWe could talk about

56:35Kimberlythat later because that's

56:35Islajust... Deeper thing but there's people that don't... There's always the rich auntie, like, everybody knows one, like, you don't have to get married if you

56:41Speaker 2want to.

56:41Myron GainesWe'll talk about that because that's a whole other discussion I don't want to detract so let's let's continue on but we can we can definitely talk about that because I have the numbers to back that up about what you said is romance.

56:49Speaker 2I'm full of my opinion.

56:49Myron GainesBut continue on. Sorry.

56:51JanelliSo I would say a turn off in general that I've seen in a few cases

56:56Janelliwould be, like, when guys get really immature with their friends. I don't know if you girls have ever

57:00Penelopeexperienced that before. It's cringy.

57:02JanelliYes. But it's, like, they're one person with you and then when they're with, like, their group or their guys, they're just like completely different.

57:08Mike RashidSo they're not romantic or bonded friends? That sucks.

57:12JanelliThat they're not romantic, they're just like

57:14Mike RashidI'm kidding.

57:15JanelliImmature. Immature. And that's just a huge turn off for

57:17Speaker 2me. Okay.

57:19JanelliTurn on.

57:22JanelliLet me think about... I guess... Oh, yeah. Something that I really like is when guys are...

57:27JanelliMaybe they have a lot going for them and they're really humble about it so, like, I kind of have to find it out on my own without them telling me.

57:33KimberlyOkay.

57:34JanelliIt's a turn off when guys are, like, super flashy. Yeah. They wanna like put everything out there and they present themselves to be like, yeah, I shop here. Oh yeah, I go out to this restaurant. Oh yeah, I go to this bar and then like, actually, don't. I find it much more attractive when I find it out on my own Mhmm. And I realize like, wow, they actually do have a really cool life, like, they're not putting this in front of everyone's faces.

57:54FreshMhmm.

57:54Myron GainesOkay. That's very Okay.

57:57Myron GainesThat's very true. Okay.

57:59PenelopeWould have to agree with Dunellie big time on that. But I would choose my turn off thing is like, if we go for dinner and then I noticed that you like tip the waitress really badly.

58:09PenelopeOh, yeah. I just don't like that. I'm like, why are you so cheap, bro? Like, that's just like a sign of like what's to come. Like, I'm just trying to avoid that.

58:16Speaker 2A good point.

58:17PenelopeYeah.

58:18PenelopeAnd definitely, I would have to go with what Janelle just said, like I like a guy who doesn't talk too much and like sell himself too much at first.

58:27PenelopeHe's more like, yeah, I'm up to this, I'm doing this, whatever, and then you see him do it, and he's like actually

58:34Penelopewalking his talk. Yeah. But it's like beyond just...

58:37PenelopeIt's beyond what he said. It's like he's actually doing more than what he said, and he has a lot of things that are good going on in his life, and that's attractive to me. Mhmm. Yeah. Alright.

58:47FreshAlright. So

58:49IslaI actually had this recent situation where I learned that now this is like a turn off for me. So this one guy on paper and I hope

58:58Islato the gods that he's not watching or whatever but...

59:01IslaBut I mean, at the same time, like, whatever.

59:03IslaIt is what it is. I was about to tell you myself anyways but now you get to hear it. So basically,

59:09Islaon paper, this man is absolutely

59:11Islaperfect. Like,

59:12Islaperfect. Like,

59:14Islayou know, just attractive,

59:16Islayou know, has businesses,

59:18Islais really tall, like, just everything checks off. Right?

59:22IslaAnd we get to a few dates, super cool guy, whatever it may be. And then at some point, you know, when we're hanging out, like, later

59:29Islaafter the date,

59:32Islait was like,

59:33IslaI don't... Like a lot of complimenting, like doing too much, you know what I mean? And it's like, it's almost like guys or I guess him, like, he maybe believed that like, oh, this is something that like women wanna hear. Like, you're this, you're that, da da da, like, you know, whatever. But at the same time, to me, it's, like, it gives me the It's, like, relax. Like, I already know all these things that you're telling me, like, don't overdo it because now you're, like, making me unattracted to you. And then to follow-up with that later on,

1:00:00Islafor example, he would completely be, like, super inconsistent. So it's kinda, like, literally in his head, he's, like, oh, I'm literally gonna tell you what you

1:00:08Islamaybe wanna hear, not knowing that like, I don't care. Like, if I'm if I'm gonna hook up with you, I'm gonna hook up with you regardless. You don't have to sit there and compliment me twenty four seven. You know what I mean? Mhmm. Yes. So like, with that inconsistency

1:00:19Islalike, to backtrack, I was like, listen, I'm a grown woman. Like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it because I want to, not because you're like, telling me all these things that

1:00:26KimberlyI wanna hear.

1:00:27FreshHe was trying too hard for

1:00:28Speaker 2some shit.

1:00:29Myron GainesWait. Hold on. We got

1:00:30IslaSo annoying.

1:00:30ChrisSeven k watching only, 2.3 k likes on YouTube.

1:00:33Myron GainesHold on. Stop

1:00:35Freshthe show.

1:00:36FreshGuys,

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1:00:57Mike RashidNo, no,

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1:00:59Myron GainesYeah, because

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1:01:01Myron Gainesyeah. So... Okay. $100 smoke 53, thank you so much for the support. Have you over fresh and fit will change your life. Pay attention and learn something, ladies.

1:01:08FreshThank you, smoke.

1:01:08Myron GainesYeah. They're not gonna pay attention. They're say fuck these dudes. Massages. Okay. Neo Hikari, to the ladies, what what it... What's it like to not understand very basic principles of men yet you guys seek men that are of high value. Every rebuttal you ladies has given... Have given has a rambling of ideas rather than a cohesive point. Why?

1:01:26IslaI'm just not getting it.

1:01:27Myron GainesYeah. Well, you know, it is what it is, bro. You ain't you ain't gonna... Guys, tell I you all the time it's it's futile to argue with women but I do it for you guys since you guys love it so much. So, okay, anoa abrar. No,

1:01:37Myron Gainesno, We read that already and then...

1:01:39ChrisWe have one more in one second and check Telegram.

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1:01:53Mike RashidOkay.

1:01:54Myron GainesAnd then we got CJ Williams, last one. Ladies, do you remember the arguments you had with your mother? How would you handle those arguments with your future daughter? I think the answer will shed light on experience less perception. Thank you, Williams. Cool. Okay. Real quick,

1:02:05Freshwe had a poll on Twitch, right? Yeah. With everyone here on the panel. Oh, shit. And the poll reads,

1:02:10Freshare ladies all capped tonight? So

1:02:13Freshanswer,

1:02:14Freshultra instant cap, sixty six percent one.

1:02:18Myron GainesAlright. So

1:02:19Myron Gainesthey said... Okay, they think all the ladies are are being

1:02:22Myron Gaineslying up to some degree. Okay. Fair enough.

1:02:24FreshSo we have...

1:02:25PenelopeMen lie to you.

1:02:27Myron GainesYep.

1:02:27Myron GainesWe definitely do.

1:02:29ChrisMen are not denying That's

1:02:32Myron Gainesthe difference. Not denying

1:02:33Freshit. Hold on. Did we go around the table?

1:02:35Speaker 2Everybody's good, right?

1:02:35Myron GainesYeah. Mike, did you have a question? Special guest? No?

1:02:38FreshOkay. Cool. So let's play the video, Chris. So we had a viral video that went kind of viral as well on...

1:02:43FreshAll over YouTube and it's with our boy, mister Origen here and girl was basically saying what she's attracted to

1:02:51Freshand not. And let's just... I want your opinion, ladies. Is it true? Is it not true? And you could tell us what you think about the video.

1:02:57ChrisThree of

1:02:58Speaker 2them. Three of them.

1:03:07FreshThanks. Okay. Miss comedian.

1:03:09KimberlyYou know what? And you know

1:03:09Penelopewhat about mister organic though is that we literally had a conversation before the camera started and he's like chill as fuck. It's not like he's like, yo, my million. It's like we had a conversation. He answered questions. He was cool as shit. He was like, yo, I'm a homebody.

1:03:22PenelopeLike he was just chill. So it it doesn't come up, you know,

1:03:25JanelliI don't know how

1:03:25Penelopeit comes off. I don't know how it came off on the podcast but you know what I mean, was so down to earth. Okay. Turn on.

1:03:30Speaker 2You know what

1:03:31Penelopeturns me the fuck on?

1:03:42TreyYou

1:03:45Treyknow

1:03:45Penelopewhat turns me the fuck on? A guy that I... This is so nerdy but it's so fucking true. A guy that I can fucking laugh with. Like I love

1:03:54Penelopebeing on a date and I was in the... I remember being in the car

1:03:57Penelopeand I didn't want to get out of the car because we're just fucking shooting the shit and talking and he's making me laugh and even... Sounded like he had...

1:04:04FreshShout out Shaquira as well in the chat.

1:04:05Mike RashidShout out to

1:04:06FreshShaquira, the director....

1:04:07PenelopeGuys. And she sent me out with dude who's like, like,

1:04:10Penelopeevery three seconds. I was like, no. She's across the

1:04:12Mike Rashidroad shit.

1:04:12PenelopeYeah. It's like, chill. But just that sense of humor, that banter, that wittiness that you can go back and forth and I remember being in the car, it happened recently and I was like, don't wanna get out

1:04:21Speaker 2of the

1:04:21Myron Gainescar. Hey, we're gonna get the volume up guys, don't worry.

1:04:23PenelopeHe's so chill and fuck that shit is bad man.

1:04:26Speaker 2That's soggy.

1:04:33Myron GainesGot

1:04:34Myron GainesI got a quick question. Was it like a first date that you met this guy?

1:04:37PenelopeThis was... We had hung out three times before actually.

1:04:40Myron GainesThree times prior? This Did he show the funniness on the first date or later on?

1:04:44PenelopeNo. He was funny from

1:04:45Freshthe beginning.

1:04:45TreyHe was funny from the beginning? Yeah.

1:04:46PenelopeBut not, you know, the first time we ever hung out it was like four of us.

1:04:50Speaker 2Mhmm.

1:04:50PenelopeSo you can you can show that off but it's easier when you're coming off of other people's banter. But when you're one on one I think it's harder.

1:04:56Myron GainesSo the the so the first date you you guys went out like on a friends date for other people?

1:05:00Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did

1:05:01Myron Gainesdid you suggest that?

1:05:02PenelopeNo. No. No.

1:05:02Myron GainesHe suggested The

1:05:03Penelopefour the four date...

1:05:04Speaker 2No. The

1:05:05Penelopefront... Just friends that

1:05:06Freshwanted us Yeah.

1:05:08Mike RashidPause real quick. Okay.

1:05:08Myron GainesSo you guys met in, like, guess this is...

1:05:11FreshCan you go... Can you guys see the chrabach?

1:05:15Myron GainesYeah. The chat was going... She

1:05:23Myron Gaineswas a nice girl, though, man.

1:05:23Speaker 2She was cool as fuck.

1:05:24Myron GainesShe was cool, but yeah. Yeah, niggas.

1:05:26Mike RashidI knew you got around clutter.

1:05:27Speaker 2The chat's going crazy

1:05:28Myron Gainesright now. Yeah. Know. They're they're

1:05:29Speaker 2going hilarious. Brother Chad.

1:05:31FreshThe chest is horrible.

1:05:32Myron GainesAlright. Let's keep playing the video. Oh

1:05:34Chrisgosh. Yeah. Relax it.

1:05:36Myron GainesAnd we're not gonna play the whole thing, guys. Don't worry. We're only gonna play a portion of it. Don't worry. No.

1:05:41Mike RashidNot at all?

1:05:41Myron GainesNo. Not at Okay. The second day you guys hung out one on one.

1:05:44PenelopeThe third date.

1:05:47Myron GainesYou guys didn't hang out one on one until the third date?

1:05:49FreshYeah. Why did

1:05:49Myron Gainesyou guys hang out one on one on the second date?

1:05:51PenelopeBecause the second time we saw each other...

1:05:54IslaWow. I'm getting really personal.

1:05:55Mike RashidCome on. Now you got you got

1:05:57Islathat first time.

1:05:58Mike RashidYou gotta

1:05:59Speaker 2get a little taste.

1:06:00PenelopeBecause the second time

1:06:01PenelopeI invited him to my birthday, I was like having people for my birthday and and I was like I was kinda like, I really like... I don't know. And so my friends were like, just... I was like, you know what? Let me just invite him to my birthday and

1:06:12Freshsee if that goes.

1:06:13Myron GainesSo quickly, I gotta ask the hard question.

1:06:15Myron GainesDid you fuck him on the second time that you met him?

1:06:18IslaNo. You

1:06:18Myron Gainesdidn't? No. On the third time? No. Okay. Guys, that's why you don't be a fucking clown with women. Get your

1:06:23Mike Rashidass about each other. She took me

1:06:25Penelopeas a clown. Why? Can I say why? Ali Wong, I don't know if you guys have heard this before but I... This is just a me thing.

1:06:31PenelopeI... If I really like a dude, I don't want to immediately have sex

1:06:35Speaker 2with him.

1:06:35PenelopeNo. It's true.

1:06:36Mike RashidWrong. Don't do that.

1:06:38PenelopeWait. Why is it? It's

1:06:41Penelopebecause I'm really vulnerable all of a sudden now I care if he calls again, you know, fuck

1:06:47Penelopeit.

1:06:47JanelliI'm just really horny.

1:06:48Myron GainesOkay. Question. You said you're a comedian kind of, right?

1:06:51PenelopeSomewhat, yeah.

1:06:52Myron GainesActress. If Kevin Hart walked in this room right now and said, hey, let's smash, would you say, oh, I gotta wait or something like that?

1:06:58PenelopeDoesn't Kevin Hart like cheat on everything that...

1:07:01Myron GainesYeah. But that's not what I asked.

1:07:02FreshWe just...

1:07:02Mike RashidWould you rock him

1:07:03Myron Gainesif he said... If he walked in here?

1:07:04PenelopeDave Chappelle.

1:07:06Myron GainesThere you If you walked in here right now, would you smash him? Yeah. You would. The point I'm trying to make is this.

1:07:10PenelopeNo. I wouldn't because I'd be like,

1:07:11BiancaI wanna marry Dave.

1:07:12PenelopeLike, I wanna be Dave's wife. So I'm a play artsy guy. I don't know. I honestly don't know what I would do.

1:07:17Myron GainesI

1:07:19Myron Gainesgot white hairs, man. Doing this shit every night, bro.

1:07:23Myron GainesEvery night, man,

1:07:29Speaker 12First of all,

1:07:30Penelopeif it were Dave Chappelle, which hello.

1:07:32PenelopeI would be like, oh my god, I just... It's weird. I know it sounds like

1:07:37PenelopeI can hear your eye... Eyes rolling, but it's just that kind of fucking thing that you're like, this connection

1:07:41Speaker 2is so fucking cool....

1:07:42PenelopeYou have sex, it changes everything. And it get more physical.

1:07:46PenelopeIt goes

1:07:46Islaso much different connection.

1:07:48PenelopeI just say this is another reason why I like to wait is because the sex is so much... Best.

1:07:53PenelopeOkay.

1:07:54PenelopeFacts. So... Have that thing? If

1:07:56Speaker 12Gabby...

1:07:57Speaker 12If Dave Chappelle walked in, Gabby and Dave Chappelle

1:08:01Speaker 12would have a banter fucking laugh conversation, she would literally orgasm from the laughter that they had.

1:08:08Speaker 12Sounds cheesy.

1:08:08Myron GainesI'm gonna say my peace now because you guys said yours.

1:08:11Speaker 2Wait, wait, wait, can

1:08:12PenelopeI say my turn

1:08:12Freshoff? Bus?

1:08:13ChrisYeah, sure.

1:08:13FreshWell, hold on. Okay, ladies, so far, right, you heard her, went on multiple dates with a guy, she said she turned on by being funny, right, by by the guy being funny. What do you thought so far? Yes.

1:08:26VanessaYes. Yeah. Definitely. Playful

1:08:28VanessaPlayful banter. Definitely. Definitely a turn on.

1:08:30PenelopeLove it. Okay.

1:08:31KimberlyNot for

1:08:31Freshme. So you'll make him wait

1:08:33Freshfor a couple dates being funny before you...

1:08:36PenelopeBeing anything. Doesn't matter if he's funny or not, it's probably just gonna be a couple of dates. Wait.

1:08:41PenelopeBecause what she said is true. Once you have... As a woman, I feel once you have a certain level of comfort with somebody, you've had a time to connect with them, you just feel more

1:08:52Penelopelike being,

1:08:53Penelopelike, that next level freaky or whatever. Like, I think the sexual connection, like I said earlier, I'm more of a spiritual person, so I'm, like, interested in knowing who you are as a person before I get into bed with you. I wanna know like your values and different things about you that you don't always get to cover on the first date because the first date is kinda like,

1:09:13Penelopewhat do you do? Like, you know, how do you spend your time? It's more of like a job interview almost.

1:09:18PenelopeWhat was that noise?

1:09:20Speaker 2I know.

1:09:21Myron GainesI had no idea. I don't know.

1:09:22PenelopeAll I'm saying is I agree with her. Mhmm. I think funny is definitely a turn on. Mhmm. It's definitely gonna make me wanna come back and hang out with you. If I see that there is like a funny connection and we can banter and we can be witty and you can make me laugh,

1:09:36PenelopeI'll be definitely more interested in taking you seriously. Mhmm. And also, think what she said is true, is if you like a guy...

1:09:42PenelopeLike, if I meet a guy and he's just hot and I just... But I don't really take him seriously,

1:09:47PenelopeI might hook up with him sooner than if I actually really like a guy because I do wanna make sure before I get into bed with you, like, what is this gonna be after? Like, are you gonna be hitting me up? Is it gonna be something for real? Are we gonna start dating? Like, where are you at? Are you dating other people? Like, where do I fit into your life? How busy are you? That kind of stuff. So you do wanna have a little bit more time to just feel them out, get to know and then, like, yeah, take them more seriously.

1:10:14FreshOkay. Does everyone feel the same way?

1:10:15KimberlyNo. It depends on how funny you are. The

1:10:18Kimberlyfunniest depends. You might be... You might get friend zoned.

1:10:21FreshBut like

1:10:21KimberlyThere you just saying, depending on how funny. Like, you can't be like the joke of the time. Like, you

1:10:26Islaknow, like, The class... Yeah.

1:10:28Speaker 2But why why... Else?

1:10:30PenelopeI feel like there would be another reason that you friend zone him besides

1:10:34Penelopethe funniness.

1:10:35KimberlyIt's too much joking, like

1:10:36Speaker 2Yeah.

1:10:37KimberlyYou know,

1:10:37Speaker 2like Yeah.

1:10:37KimberlyNo. Can we save

1:10:38Islathis Keeping for

1:10:39Freshit real.

1:10:40KimberlyYeah. Keep it still, like, not all the time, it gotta be a joke. You could throw in a little something here and there but, like, if every time you gotta be like the center attention... Well, yeah. He's

1:10:48Speaker 2a clown.

1:10:49KimberlyYeah. That's kind of

1:10:49Fresha turn

1:10:50Penelopeoff because you're like,

1:10:50Kimberlykate, we're

1:10:51Freshjust gonna

1:10:51Penelopeget on the stage.

1:10:52FreshYou heard this so far. What's your first reaction to this lady telling everyone to be funny and not smashing on five dates?

1:11:00Speaker 2Five. I thought

1:11:01Mike Rashidshe said okay. I don't think she was saying, you gotta be funny, but I think a fun date is a vibe.

1:11:08Speaker 2You know

1:11:08Mike Rashidwhat saying? Yeah. I like that fun. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm silly, like, I'll be saying silly shit. You know what saying? So... But,

1:11:14Mike Rashidyeah, I'm not gonna be a clown. I'm not trying to present my material to you. You know what saying?

1:11:18Myron GainesRight. Get them right

1:11:19Mike Rashidto see what you think. You know

1:11:20Speaker 2what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like a little

1:11:22Penelopejoke here, a little joke there.

1:11:23Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. Funny, funny, funny, and then a little

1:11:26Mike RashidI understand what she's saying. Alright. A bunch of friends going out the first night. Oh, now it's my birthday. Should I invite him over? I get that. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. And the last one, he probably smashed on that third one, but, you know, she don't wanna say that. You know I'm saying?

1:11:39Speaker 2No. He didn't. Even even

1:11:40Myron Gainesif not. Asked.

1:11:40Mike RashidBut see, here's the thing, like Mhmm. Oh Shit. I don't always wanna smash immediately, personally. Yeah. You know saying? So...

1:11:48Mike RashidBut I don't know. I could keep it on it. When I don't smash immediately,

1:11:53Mike Rashidthey like me even more. You know what

1:11:54Penelopesaying? Mhmm. Yes.

1:11:55Mike RashidAnd my cousin put me up on game a long time ago. She said... I said, what is it? I'm, like, 19. Like, what is it? Like, what are y'all... Like, how do you get a girl to really... She said, when I know it's a vibe,

1:12:06Mike Rashidhe's not really trying to push up. Mhmm. It drives me crazy.

1:12:10IslaYes.

1:12:10Mike RashidAnd that... I tell you that shit works.

1:12:12Myron GainesYou know

1:12:12Mike Rashidwhat saying? Mhmm. So I just never... I'm not thirsty at all. You know what saying? So,

1:12:18Mike Rashidyou know,

1:12:19Mike Rashidit is what it is. But there's, you know, there's been girls that I've chilled with, the vibe was dope,

1:12:26Mike Rashidbeautiful, all of that. But

1:12:28Mike RashidI didn't feel like

1:12:30Mike Rashidit'd be a fly sexual connection. You know what I'm saying? I just don't even go there because I don't want to like not have a championship performance. You know what

1:12:39Myron GainesI'm saying?

1:12:39Mike RashidMhmm. It is what it is. And I don't want to fuck it up because I'm not gonna... You know I'm saying? I'm gonna be sitting at the edge of the bed like, fuck.

1:12:46Mike RashidWhy are you here?

1:12:47Speaker 2You know

1:12:48Mike Rashidwhat I'm saying?

1:12:48ChrisDon't Okay.

1:12:49Mike RashidYou know...

1:12:50BiancaMarian,

1:12:51Freshyou wanna chip in or you wanna

1:12:52Speaker 2wait for

1:12:52Myron Gainesme to... No. We we could keep playing it. Okay. The...

1:12:55FreshSo we heard there... So

1:12:56Myron Gainesthe chats?

1:12:58Myron GainesAll the ladies pretty much feel the same, like, agree in unison, like, make them wait a little bit.

1:13:01FreshChris, how many how many legs we got, Chris?

1:13:03PenelopeI think it's so typical for a guy to

1:13:05Mike Rashidtry to three plus

1:13:05Freshfour k likes?

1:13:06Myron GainesQuickly. Yep.

1:13:07FreshThat's

1:13:08Myron Gainesit? Yep. Yo, guys, get us 5,000 likes, man.

1:13:10Speaker 2At least

1:13:11Myron Gaineswe're not gonna play the video.

1:13:31KimberlyOkay.

1:13:34Myron GainesSo guys, with that said, please like the goddamn video. There's 7,236

1:13:38Myron Gainesyou guys watching right now. Like the goddamn video.

1:13:41FreshAnd also, stop on Twitch, man. Yeah. Come on.

1:13:43Myron GainesYo, I'm gonna like to be... I'm gonna I'm gonna about to stop

1:13:46Speaker 2the show

1:13:46Chrisuntil we have

1:13:46Myron Gaines5,000 likes. Alright.

1:13:47FreshStop the

1:13:48Myron Gainesshow. That's not... I don't wanna... Now I'm gonna play this annoying who wants to be a millionaire song until we get 5,000 likes because you guys think I'm playing around with this stuff. We give you guys this free content. This is excellent stuff. You guys should be taking notes and learning womanese because they're speaking in code right now, which I'm gonna decipher you guys at the end of the show. And I know they're already mad at me saying that.

1:14:06Speaker 2Oh my god. Like,

1:14:07Myron Gainesthis guy's such a misogynist, like... But don't worry. I'm gonna decipher all this for you guys after the fact. But we're not gonna continue to show until you guys get us up to 5,000 likes, goddamn it. Alright? We need 5,000 likes and we're gonna continue to show. I'm gonna play this annoying song right now.

1:14:20FreshShow it to the new member that just joined on on YouTube.

1:14:23Myron GainesAnd we're gonna shamelessly start to sell things. Yep. And we're gonna start right now. Oh, yeah.

1:14:27Speaker 2We'll start

1:14:27Freshover here.

1:14:28Myron GainesWe'll start over here. So give your Instagram and all your social media and whatever else you may be selling, your art, whatever it is.

1:14:34VanessaYou you guys can just follow me on Instagram, vanessa popkins.

1:14:37Myron GainesGotta talk to Michael so they can hear you.

1:14:38VanessaYou guys can follow me on Instagram, Vanessa popkins.

1:14:42VanessaThat's pretty much my only social media that I'm really active on.

1:14:46Myron GainesYou don't sell your art?

1:14:47VanessaI do. You have to message me because I don't promote my art as much as I used to because I'm more so focused on modeling now.

1:14:54VanessaSo, yeah, I do Yep. Video modeling, print modeling,

1:14:58Vanessafreelance.

1:14:59VanessaJust Cool. Hit me up. Cool.

1:15:02Myron GainesAlright. What about you?

1:15:03KimberlyLee. So, Lee underscore sola underscore seven thirty on Instagram.

1:15:08KimberlyI'm not selling nothing but lifestyle. Like, I'm just showing you how to do this thing, like, how to transfer over and just vibe and just whatever. Just follow me so you can figure it out.

1:15:17Myron GainesAlright. Nice.

1:15:18Speaker 2Let me know.

1:15:18Myron GainesBuy the drink though. Yo.

1:15:19Speaker 2Oh, shit. Right now, I'm a better video. You know what? This is free

1:16:29IslaWhat is happening?

1:16:32Speaker 2You

1:16:34Speaker 2broke him. Fresh, you

1:16:35Vanessabroke him.

1:16:35PenelopeFresh, Fresh, fresh? What

1:16:37Speaker 2is he? Fresh

1:16:38Speaker 2fish?

1:16:41Myron GainesGuys, get the

1:16:42Speaker 2lights up. We only have 4.2 k likes. Ladies, put your Instagrams, by

1:16:46Myron Gainesthe way.

1:16:46Speaker 2So who ain't finished yet? Let's go, Bianca.

1:16:48IslaGet the lights

1:16:48Myron Gainesup. What's Instagram.

1:16:50KimberlyWhy are acting like that?

1:16:51Myron GainesI can't breathe with that fucking mask on. Guys wanna like the goddamn video. I feel like

1:16:54Freshit's it's a Okay.

1:16:55Mike RashidBeer bug

1:16:55Freshup

1:16:56Freshand over again.

1:16:57KimberlyThey want us to shoot?

1:16:58Myron GainesAlright. Yeah. I'm sorry. I

1:17:01FreshYo. I'm sorry. Know. I know. No. Yo. You Look at Origen's coming. He said the foot.

1:17:06Myron GainesYo. Alright. Let's continue on with the... Who who are we at?

1:17:08FreshWe like that.

1:17:09Myron GainesRight? We got 4.2. Cool. We're we're stopping the show until we hit until we hit 5,000 likes, man.

1:17:14KimberlyCan rock. I've been crazy.

1:17:16Myron GainesAlright. Go ahead.

1:17:17BiancaOh, okay. My Instagram is bianca.

1:17:20Speaker 2She was like, what's what's going on? Was like,

1:17:23Chrissorry,

1:17:24Chrisguys. We we didn't didn't warn ladies at all.

1:17:27PenelopeYeah. We were were not

1:17:28Speaker 2ready to...

1:17:29PenelopeWere not ready to...

1:17:29Speaker 2Chat all my

1:17:30Freshninjas in the chat. Yeah.

1:17:31Myron GainesAll you ninja watchers. Sorry. Go ahead.

1:17:33BiancaIt's Bianca Michelle

1:17:35Biancadouble e x seven.

1:17:37BiancaSo cute.

1:17:38Myron GainesAlright. You don't sell any... You you don't have like an OnlyFans or anything? You're selling nothing?

1:17:41BiancaI do not have an OnlyFans.

1:17:43Speaker 2No. No

1:17:44Myron Gainesno fat, like a lot

1:17:45Chrisof girls that come

1:17:46Speaker 2on here. So the nine...

1:17:47FreshMister 14, new member.

1:17:48Myron GainesYeah. Thank you very much.

1:17:49FreshThank you, Thank you, Alright.

1:17:50Myron GainesMike, where can the people find you?

1:17:53Mike RashidMike@onlyfans.com.

1:17:58TreyA minute?

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1:18:03Speaker 2Oh, he knows.

1:18:06Myron GainesAlright. All set.

1:18:08JanelliAlright. You can find me on Instagram at jennelly edith, that's j e n e l l y,

1:18:13Penelopeedith. Mhmm.

1:18:14JanelliOr YouTube, I also have a YouTube channel with the same name and Penelope and I just started Patreon.

1:18:19JanelliHey. Today. We'll talk more

1:18:20Speaker 2about that.

1:18:21PenelopeI'm excited.

1:18:21Myron GainesIs that all the spicy content over there?

1:18:23PenelopeYes. Very spicy.

1:18:24Myron GainesYou guys took a page out of our book, see.

1:18:26Speaker 2Uh-huh. Learning from the best.

1:18:27Myron GainesOkay. Here

1:18:28Janelliyou go. Subscribe.

1:18:29JanelliLinks are I'm in my okay.

1:18:32Myron GainesYeah. And Yeah. Guys, like the goddamn video. Like, we're pausing it right now until we get 5,000 likes.

1:18:36FreshThat's it, guys, it's free. Hit the fucking like

1:18:38Myron Gainesbutton, man. Boom. You're done. 5,000 likes. Boom.

1:18:41PenelopeBoom. Okay. I'm gonna shout out my business account, it's Penelope Sloan, s l o a n,

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1:18:52PenelopeI'm also at nella vision, n e l a v I s I o n. And make sure you follow everything in the links in my bio.

1:18:58Myron GainesAlright. Cool.

1:18:59Speaker 2Yeah. Here you go.

1:19:00IslaAlright. And mine is Aylabrama.

1:19:02IslaIt's a j l a b r a m a. And on there, you can see everything, so do your best. Right.

1:19:09KimberlyWas thinking that too. You're see. I'm gonna do it anyway. You're

1:19:11Islagonna search. Yeah. I'm not gonna click it. You lost.

1:19:14Myron GainesAlright.

1:19:15Myron GainesCool. So what what are we at now? 4.4. 4.4?

1:19:20Speaker 2Mhmm.

1:19:20Myron GainesYeah, man. You guys are the worst, bro. We got almost 7,000 new guys in here right now. You guys can't even like the goddamn video. Well, on YouTube

1:19:28PenelopeMaybe they don't really like you.

1:19:28Myron GainesOn YouTube. Oh, we got... Oh, okay. 6,000 on YouTube and a thousand on Twitch?

1:19:40Myron GainesYou go back to the video.

1:19:40FreshWe're almost done.

1:19:41Myron GainesYeah.

1:19:42Myron GainesOkay.

1:19:43Myron GainesSo we're gonna continue playing the video, guys. And just for context, for those that are just joining us, we're asking a girl, hey, what are you aroused by in a guy? And she answers, oh, I like a guy that's funny. And then you guys are gonna continue on. Ask her a few questions about it. Did you sleep with him? Whatever. And we're continuing on.

1:19:57KimberlyAlright. Let

1:20:00Myron Gainesme... We'll address that next. But the the thing is this, because I wanted to really, like, illustrate something here. You said, I like... I'm turned on by a guy that makes me laugh. Mhmm. Right? You gave a politically correct answer about what turns you on. Mhmm. I want a guy that makes me laugh. A lot of women say that. But then I asked you,

1:20:18Myron Gaineswhen... Have you got... Did you guys have sex on three prior meetings meeting? And you said no. Mhmm. And ladies, I hate to sound like an asshole but this podcast is for men. And we teach guys all the time

1:20:27PenelopeTeach them.

1:20:28Myron GainesThat quite frankly, women aren't very honest about what they're aroused by. They're honest about what they like but they're not honest about what they're aroused by. Right. Because if we switch it around, hey, Dave Chappelle walks in here, would you smash him? Uh-uh. That's a yes. And the thing is this.

1:20:42PenelopeI would wanna

1:20:43Myron Gainesdate some some guys... But you dated this guy too. So

1:20:48Myron Gainesthe point is this, there's rules for some guys and there aren't rules for others. So the thing is is that we gotta educate men and let them know... And this... Hate to make it like, oh, I'm gonna use you as a guinea pig to illustrate this. But guys, this is a textbook example of a woman tells you one thing but she's aroused by something else. And that guy fucked up by being a funny nice guy because what happened is he made it very apparent that he's willing to wait for sex from you.

1:21:10PenelopeIf... Which was such a turn on.

1:21:12Myron GainesNo, it is not because you did not fuck him. What you say and what happens are two different things.

1:21:16PenelopeBut we did eventually and it was so... I was about add...

1:21:19Speaker 2Yeah.

1:21:20Speaker 2I'm

1:21:20Myron Gainesglad this way right now. But the point is this. The point is this. Okay. I'll give you an example. Let's say you go to the Gucci store tomorrow. Mhmm. You find a bag for

1:21:29Myron Gainesa thousand dollars, like, damn. This thing is normally $5,000.

1:21:32Myron GainesThis is awesome. Right? You buy it. Think you got a discount. Right? Then you come in the next day and you find out your friend got the bag for a $100. And you go to the receptionist, you're like, what the fuck? I want a I want a refund. I wanna get that credit back on that $900 that I spent.

1:21:45Myron GainesRight? And then they tell you, no. We're not giving you credit because they only pay a 100. You gotta pay a thousand no matter what. How'd that make you feel?

1:21:55KimberlyI'm kinda confused. Yeah. I'm so confused.

1:21:58Speaker 2Okay. I'll

1:21:59Speaker 2see you again.

1:22:00PenelopeBad analogy.

1:22:01Myron GainesYou go to the Gucci store.

1:22:02Speaker 2It's not a turn on by by the way.

1:22:03Myron GainesOh, cool. I'm not trying to bang you. Alright. We can pause it right there. Keep going. I'm trying I'm trying. Do you wanna keep going?

1:22:07FreshNo. Yeah.

1:22:08Myron GainesThat's good enough. So they don't understand the analogy, but... And that's why everyone in the chat was going nuts when you said you made that guy wait thirteen years because, like

1:22:14ChrisSuck to myself.

1:22:15PenelopeDidn't make him wait. He just chose to continue to be my friend because I'm a valuable person to have around as a friend regardless if you're smashing or not. But he always liked me,

1:22:26Penelopeso he always wanted to continue asking once in a while, you know, would I consider dating him or this and that, but we did our own thing. We were actually just really good friends.

1:22:35PenelopeAnd I know you guys don't believe in men and women being friends.

1:22:38Myron GainesNope. It's a fallacy.

1:22:39PenelopeRight? It's not true. But I actually do have real male friends. Same. And I think when you're a woman in business and you're a high value person, I know you guys have your little,

1:22:48Penelopelike,

1:22:49Penelopeyou know, description on what a high value man is, but if you're a valuable person to people, if you have something to offer them, it's not always just about sex. Like, I was there for him between thick and thin for other things, and that's why at the end of the day, he came to me and he was like, I really want you to actually give me a serious chance. I really wanna

1:23:08Penelopepotentially marry you, and I want you to be my woman.

1:23:12PenelopeAnd at that point, I was like, you know what? I've been your friend for thirteen years. I should give you a chance. I didn't really feel the chemistry

1:23:18Penelopeon that level of being like, you know, with him with him, but I wanted to give him the chance so I did and I tried it and unfortunately,

1:23:26Penelopehe still really just wasn't...

1:23:28FreshBut see, you're proving our point even more because think about this, he waited thirteen years.

1:23:32PenelopeHe didn't wait. I didn't make him wait around. It's not like he couldn't date other people, he did his thing. He dated all these girls who used him....

1:23:39FreshHopes of one day and it did happen.

1:23:41PenelopeAnd there's nothing wrong with that.

1:23:43FreshThere is though because he's he's binging on you being at a weak point or you saying, hey, you know what, now it's your turn.

1:23:49PenelopeNo. But listen, we were young when we met and we were...

1:23:51Myron GainesIt doesn't matter.

1:23:52PenelopeWe were not ready to be together, like, if he had come to me then and I hadn't dated him then, we would have broke up

1:23:58Penelopeafter a year or whatever because we weren't ready to really be in, like, committed relationships at that time. So when he was ready to really settle down, I was the one that he came to and chose for that.

1:24:11PenelopeUnfortunately,

1:24:12Penelopefor him,

1:24:13PenelopeI just really couldn't get there with him because I just didn't have that chemistry with him that I needed to feel like it would be worth it for me to give up my life to be with him because he wanted me to also move to a different country

1:24:25Penelopeand give up my career and all these things. And, yeah, he was rich,

1:24:29Penelopeand I could have done that, but, like, I don't only value money, I also value the life that I built for myself.

1:24:35PenelopeAnd if we couldn't integrate that in a way that made sense, then it's not worth it for me because there are other men out there and I have options and he has options and I would rather us just be friends, but he was really scorned by the fact that I didn't wanna go with him to Africa, so feel like it is what

1:24:51Vanessait is.

1:24:51Myron GainesSo

1:24:52Myron Gainesguys, and as you guys know, this

1:24:54Speaker 2I know it have

1:24:54Myron Gainesbeen cool. This is a men's podcast.

1:24:56PenelopeCould be out

1:24:56Biancathere without So

1:24:57Myron Gainesso we... This is a men's podcast, so we we give advice to men in men's best interest.

1:25:02Myron GainesAnd one thing that I've I've noticed is that you mentioned earlier, like, you don't like a guy that overcompliments you.

1:25:08Myron GainesYou're saying the guy waited for you and you gave him

1:25:11Penelopeshot later on.... Waited. I'm saying, like, he was around.

1:25:13Myron GainesAt the top of the show, you did say he waited thirteen years for you.

1:25:16PenelopeOkay. I guess.

1:25:17Myron GainesYou didn't explicitly

1:25:17Speaker 2say that.

1:25:18Myron GainesSo the the point...

1:25:20Myron GainesYou're kind of walking it back to not make him look

1:25:21PenelopeI'm at just saying like, I didn't... I was... It was not like he didn't date other people and he was like exclusively

1:25:27Penelopewaiting for me and didn't try...

1:25:30Myron GainesIt's irrelevant. You know? Because here's the thing, and I tell guys this on this podcast all the time.

1:25:36Myron GainesWomen don't want an equal. Even though society says I want a guy that's a fifty fifty partner, I want my soul mate, all this other bullshit, no. Women want a guy that's better than them. And let me tell you something, men that are better than you don't pedestalize you, and they ain't gonna wait. You know what I'm saying? That's why always laugh when women say I want a guy that's funny and all this other stuff. Women are going to say what's politically correct for them to land a guy so they don't look like hoes or promiscuous because women understand that their sexuality,

1:25:59Myron Gainesif it's out in the open and it's promiscuous, it does lower their value. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Even the most sexually liberated girls are gonna lie about their body count, they're gonna lie about what they've done in their past because they understand on an innate level, their ability to lock down a high value guy is contingent on their ability to sell purity. But here's the thing though, women want to deal deal with a guy that is better than them. Guys that are better than you that have options aren't necessarily gonna wait all the time.

1:26:22PenelopeBut he was better than me in your standards.

1:26:25Myron GainesNo, he didn't because he didn't act like it. No, but And this is why this is why having money isn't enough a lot of the Yeah. Like, yes, having money is good. It gets it gets you a good... I always say, money doesn't solve all problems but it's a damn good down payment. But it's not gonna make you attractive to a woman that is repulsed by you and him, even

1:26:42PenelopeI was allowing repulsed.

1:26:44Myron GainesYes, you were. Your actions dictated that. Were repulsed by him just because... Remember, we're talking sexually here. We're not talking about friend... Friendship here.

1:26:50Mike RashidYeah.

1:26:50Myron GainesWe're not... You're conflating the two. You were repulsed by him sexually because I wasn't

1:26:55Myron Gainessexually. You had... Hold on. Let me just finish. Okay. Because you can say that but your... What you did with him sexually shows otherwise. The thing is this.

1:27:03Speaker 2He just...

1:27:03Myron GainesWhen a man waits for a woman...

1:27:05FreshYou stuck cutting him off, please?

1:27:06Myron GainesGod damn, man.

1:27:08Myron GainesFuck. Yeah. So when a when a man waits for a woman, what he's inadvertently saying is that your value is higher than mine, I am willing to wait for you and see if this works out. Guys that have higher status aren't gonna wait around for a woman. Women want men that other women want, period. It's it's biologically proven, like, women are more attracted to a man that's preselected and has multiple women. That's why rappers, athletes, celebrities, etcetera, they get more girls just by being in a VIP with 20 girls in there because women want guys that other guy... That other women wanna be and

1:27:35Myron Gainesother women wanna be with and other guys wanna be. Period. There's a reason why only like 10 to 20% of men are fucking like 80% of the girls. You know what I'm saying? So when a man waits for a woman, aka the friend zone, which is what we tell guys, never be in the friend zone with a woman Don't

1:27:47Freshdo it.

1:27:47Myron GainesShe's going to lose respect for you. Whether she says I like you as a friend, or we're friends, or whatever, she's gonna lose respect for you from an arousal standpoint. Maybe not a friendship standpoint, but from an arousal standpoint, 100%. And for the ladies out there that say, oh, men and women can be friends. No. It's a lie. Every single time a guy is in a friend zone with you or accepts It's you being a

1:28:06Penelopeopinion.

1:28:06Myron GainesIt's an opinion? Yep. Okay. Most

1:28:10Myron Gainesguys

1:28:11Myron Gainesare not gonna be open about it and tell you, listen, I wanna have sex with you. And they're gonna sit there in the friend zone, and as soon as you let them and as soon as you let them come in and you tell them, hey, I'm horny, come over, nine out of 10 times, they're gonna come over and have sex with you. They're only in the friend zone as a backdoor route to try to get some sex from you. Now, are there exceptions to rule? Maybe one in a 100 guys might actually be a platonic friend with you because of some kind of social situation where you might be married to his brother-in-law or some shit like that, where if you were to bang him, it would be... It would it would cause great chaos. But most guys stay in the friend zone to get laid. And the longer you stay in the friend zone as a guy, the more you decrease your value. Because if you sit there and you wait for a woman in the friend zone, it tells a lot about you as far as your options go. So even if you're a high status guy and a girl friend zones you and you sit there in the friend zone, she's gonna lose respect for you from an arousal standpoint. And I always say it like this,

1:28:59Myron Gainesif a woman is with a guy and they're just fuck buddies, like if you invite a girl over, hey, let's just smash whatever, and then you kick her out your crib every single time. You don't even hang out with her. You don't listen to her problems. You don't take her out for dinner. You don't do nothing except for have sex with her and kick her out your spot. That is exactly what it's like for a guy to be in the friend zone. It's just that it's politically correct and okay for women to friend zone men, but it's not the other... It's not correct to do it the other way around. Because anything that has to do with male sexuality and men having leverage in the sexual marketplace is considered misogynistic or rude. But if a woman exercises her sexual leverage, it's no problem. You could take a guy out on foodie dates. You could take a guy out and friend zone him. Completely, so so acceptable. But if I tell guys, listen, chick doesn't wanna smash you on the first date, kick her out your crib. You're a toxic massages. No. No. I'm just telling guys, you need to put value on your time. And when you sit there and hang out with a girl platonically,

1:29:43Myron Gainesyou're disrespecting yourself. Just like a girl that's fucking a guy and not letting her take him out her on dates or whatever maybe. It's the same thing, it's just that men and women are very differently how we view friendships and sex.

1:29:53PenelopeCan I answer now?

1:29:54BiancaI really like what you have to say. I I have to agree with a lot of what you just said.

1:30:00Speaker 2Oh,

1:30:00Biancathanks.

1:30:01BiancaIf for... At least for me, if you're... If I put you in the friend zone, even if if it's for a day, that's it. You're staying there forever. The moment you're in the friend zone

1:30:11Mike RashidYeah.

1:30:11BiancaYou are not coming out, period.

1:30:14FreshKeeping it real? I like that.

1:30:16JanelliYeah. Mhmm. And...

1:30:17Myron GainesOh, go go ahead. Continue. Then you can go. I know you got something to say.

1:30:20BiancaI also...

1:30:21BiancaGoing back to, like, you saying, you know, you guys smash and then you leave and stuff like that.

1:30:26BiancaWomen,

1:30:28Biancaat least in my opinion, when you have a fuck buddy,

1:30:31Biancaa lot of times,

1:30:33Biancawomen want

1:30:34Biancamore.

1:30:35Myron GainesOf course. Yeah.

1:30:37BiancaSo

1:30:39BiancaI guess you're right when it comes down to you saying like, okay, now leave, that that to me would be a sign that I'm in the friend zone, you don't want anything else with me, I'll probably end things right there and

1:30:48Myron Gainesthat And I say this too, women rarely treat sex for what it is. Sex is really a handshake, it's an equal value exchange. But women almost always treat sex as a value loaded exchange. And what I mean by that is, I'm not gonna have sex with you unless like I'm getting some kind of resource from you, whether it's time, attention, whatever it is. So that's how women treat sex a lot of the time. You know what I mean? But if you treat it for what it is, a value value exchange,

1:31:10Myron Gainesmost chicks aren't gonna be comfortable with that. They're gonna be like, so we're just smashing you, kicking me out? Fuck that. And she's... She might tolerate it for like a month or two, maybe even a year, but at some point, she's gonna get tired of it and then go find a guy that will give her that security to some degree. Because women really like just giving out sex for free. You know what I'm saying? Because we

1:31:26Kimberlyare spiritual beings. I like that.

1:31:28BiancaI have to agree with a lot of what you just said.

1:31:30Myron GainesThanks. But I I got... You got... I know you got a point of contention. Go ahead.

1:31:33Speaker 2Oh, no.

1:31:33PenelopeWas just gonna say, like, you're saying this guy... Like, so the guy that I was talking about

1:31:38Mike RashidMhmm.

1:31:38PenelopeHe is successful.

1:31:40PenelopeHe would go to the club and party and spend lots of money. He would have all the girls in his section. He was that guy.

1:31:46PenelopeBut to me, that wasn't really a turn on. So you're saying, like, oh, girls are turned on by this guy who everybody wants.

1:31:54PenelopeI was like, go do you, boo. Go ahead. Maybe it was because I I only saw him as a friend, and I just didn't really care what he was up to beyond our friendship and, you know, like,

1:32:04Penelopethe relationship that we had. That was really actually just a friendship.

1:32:08PenelopeSo I I don't agree with you because I I think

1:32:12Penelopeevery culture culture and different cities have kind of different vibes. Where I'm from in Vancouver,

1:32:17Penelopethere's a lot of guys and a lot of girls who are actually just friends,

1:32:20Penelopeand we go out, we eat, like, I pay for my own bills, some of my guy friends pay for my bill, they're still not trying to smash me, they are not. Like, I know they're not. Like, maybe they would if I was like, yo, let me throw this at you because they're dudes and they have a dick that they think with, and there's like, you know, a certain like point where they're just like, fuck it, let's just do it. But

1:32:42Penelopeat the same time,

1:32:45Penelopethat is... This guy that you're talking about is not attractive to every woman, like,

1:32:51Penelopeit's not.

1:32:52Myron GainesOh my... Mhmm.

1:32:53PenelopeSo... Even the fact, like, he wanted to buy me designer clothes and and dress head to toe in Gucci to be like, look like him and I was like, I don't want that, like, I have different priorities and different values than you. Mhmm. And it was his integrity as a person and how he

1:33:08Penelopeacted as a person that was the most

1:33:11Penelopeunattractive thing to me.

1:33:13FreshMike, what's your thoughts on this, bro? Real quick.

1:33:15Mike RashidWhat part is that?

1:33:16FreshSo so

1:33:16Speaker 2to me, it's David

1:33:17Freshgoing back and forth but Marian had this stance and I I actually agree with him.

1:33:21Myron GainesBecause the whole purpose of platonic friends means you're not sexual so your whole argument is defeated.

1:33:25IslaNo. But we platonic.

1:33:26PenelopeYeah. But we didn't have sex for... Until the very last

1:33:29Freshtime. It happened though.

1:33:30PenelopeYeah. Because he asked me to give him a chance as like a real,

1:33:34Penelopelike, future thing and I was like, okay, let's see if we have sexual compatibility.

1:33:37KimberlyWhat did he

1:33:38Freshwant all along?

1:33:40PenelopeHe wanted to be my friend. In... Initially, when we met, he hit on me. Oh. Then I friend zoned him.

1:33:45IslaThen we were Bring him on.

1:33:47PenelopeThen we were cool with just being friends. He dated a lot of women but because he was really wealthy and stuff, I think a lot of women used him and I never did that to him. I was literally just there for him, like, never asked him

1:33:57Myron Gainesfor anything.... For his attention.

1:33:59PenelopeNo, I didn't.

1:34:01PenelopeI didn't use him for his attention.

1:34:02Myron GainesOkay. Ladies, whether you want hold accept it or on. Listen. You... I I need you to, like,

1:34:07Myron Gainestake a step out of the female mindset for a second. When a man hangs out with you, talks to you, gives you any type of attention or energy, masculine vibes, whatever it is

1:34:16Speaker 2Uh-huh.

1:34:17Myron GainesHe's... He... On his end, whether you accept it or not, he's investing.

1:34:21Myron GainesHe's gonna he's gonna expect some kind of return on that. So what I'm saying is that

1:34:25Kimberlyit was

1:34:26Myron Gainesnever platonic.

1:34:27PenelopeDon't I don't think there are some men out there who don't have these sexual expectations of women about every single girl that they are talking to or whatever.

1:34:34Myron GainesThis guy was not a platonic friend is what we're trying to tell you.

1:34:36FreshYeah. He wasn't.

1:34:37Myron GainesYou made him a platonic friend.

1:34:38FreshYeah, you did.

1:34:39Myron GainesAnd you enjoyed the attention because I always say it, women love attention from men whether it's sexual or not because it's validation.

1:34:45Myron GainesThe fact that he's able to sit there and wait around and hang out with you and talk to you and give you that boyfriend energy without you fulfilling your end sexually, you're winning.

1:34:52Myron GainesThat's just like I said before, if a dude is smashing you but not taking you out on dates, he's winning.

1:34:56ChrisAnd sorry, to be honest, the way how you cut up Marian off, I'm pretty sure he had no chance to even say anything.

1:35:03Speaker 2Because you cut Marian off left and right. Yeah.

1:35:05ChrisWe've warned you multiple times to stop cutting the host off. I've even warned you, Fanalbi.

1:35:11Myron GainesWe have been... But Mike had something... Mike, sorry. Go ahead, man. But that was the platonic side is what what we're talking about.

1:35:16Mike RashidYeah. I mean, I don't know. I think it is what it is. Like,

1:35:20Mike Rashideverybody's lives is different. You know what I'm saying? If a guy waits

1:35:23Mike Rashidthirteen years...

1:35:25Mike RashidI mean, I guess it's not really waiting.

1:35:27Mike RashidYou know, it just took... Y'all got around to it thirteen years later because y'all was both doing y'all thing. Yeah. Exactly. You

1:35:34Mike Rashidknow,

1:35:35Mike Rashidwe we don't hear... We don't know his side. You know what saying? Because you say you like... You you passed up on the multimillionaire.

1:35:41Mike RashidWe don't know his point of view. You know? That would be fair to hear both sides, but it is what it is. It's fine. You don't you didn't need him. You didn't you didn't.

1:35:49Mike RashidIt sound like you... Like, the things that he had, like, that he had status and money and all of that stuff.

1:35:54Mike RashidYou're like, I don't want that stuff.

1:35:56PenelopeIt's not that

1:35:57Speaker 2I don't

1:35:57Penelopewant it. I just didn't want it with him.

1:35:59Mike RashidOkay. So you're wasn't into him.

1:36:00PenelopeJust the vibe was not there for me, like, spiritually,

1:36:03Penelopewhat he was into day to day, I spent a lot of time with him one on one, like, days at a time, we went on a trip together,

1:36:10Penelopeand it just... It didn't feel right, you know? And so I was like, even though he has x y z,

1:36:15PenelopeI feel like I would have No.

1:36:20Myron GainesLet her finish real quick.

1:36:21PenelopeI would I would have to be sacrificing who I am as a person to be around him and put up with that and it would be jarring

1:36:27Myron GainesI me, you I mean, the thing is this,

1:36:30Myron Gainesyou're giving your female perspective and you're proving my point even further, this is why we tell guys don't wait on girls, don't ever give them that Yeah. That non sexual energy. Don't spend too much time with them. Familiarity breeds contempt.

1:36:41Myron GainesThe thing is this, when I give these uncomfortable truths, you're fighting me back because it reveals unflattering realities about how women make so,

1:36:47Speaker 2like, you

1:36:47Myron Gainesplease let me finish?

1:36:48Speaker 2Yeah. Because I

1:36:48Myron Gaineslet you finish. Mhmm. So the thing is this, fighting me out. What I'm saying is because it's uncomfortably true that I'm revealing unflattering realities

1:36:55Myron Gainesthat men need to know and understand that you don't sit there and let one friend zone. You don't sit there and become familiar with her. If she's not fucking you, you don't talk to her. Period. But you don't want... Like, it sounds fucked up to say that because guess what? If more guys knew their value, they will not sit there and hang out with you and take trips with you and they're not smashing you, and women lose out when guys know their value. That's the truth. And I tell guys all the time, no free attention. This is a men's dating podcast, and that's why I tell guys not to do this. And if anything, this guy is a great example of why you never ever court a woman that you're not having sex with, period. Ever. Ever. You know what saying?

1:37:28FreshWe got two polls on Twitch real quick.

1:37:29Mike RashidLet me say something real quick. Yeah. Go ahead. Ahead. Real shit. It could have been a situation to where you was just a jump off to him to him.

1:37:37Mike RashidAnd your perspective was like, this guy was in love with me.

1:37:40PenelopeWas trying to buy

1:37:41Mike Rashidme a I

1:37:42Mike Rashidcan assure... As he's rich, that's nothing to him. Yeah. You know

1:37:45Myron Gaineswhat I'm saying?

1:37:45PenelopeNo. But I

1:37:46Speaker 2know what

1:37:46Mike Rashidhe is. I know girls who've

1:37:49Mike Rashidcapped they fucking soul out on dudes, you know what I'm saying? Because it didn't work out, you know what mean? Or they just got smashed and moved on, you know I'm saying? So it's happened to me. I'm like, really? She said what? Look at these texts, you know what I'm saying? So it's not always... It's always... It's two sides. It's four sides of every story. You know what I mean? But multi

1:38:10Mike Rashidmillionaire, you got it to... I don't know. Just for him He to get this

1:38:14Penelopewasn't like that

1:38:14Speaker 2when I

1:38:15Mike Rashidmet him.

1:38:15PenelopeBecame like

1:38:16Mike Rashidthat. But when you got with him, he was. Right?

1:38:18PenelopeHe was. But that's not why I gave him a chance. I was like, he's been a real friend to me for this long and he... He's been a loyal friend to me and we've been there for each other and I have to just point out one thing because I know you guys mentioned this before about like, I help to make money. Like, we work together, so we had that

1:38:34Penelopeas a reason to be connected,

1:38:37Penelopenot just, like, I'm just hanging out with him and letting him taking me out for dinner and whatever and just using him as, like, a a dude to take me out and not fucking him because I'm not interested. It was like, there's a reason why he was seeing me on a consistent basis and why we maintained that friendship for so long and then why he saw me as so valuable because I added a lot of value to his life.

1:38:57Myron GainesOh, yeah. What's up, Chris? No. Oh,

1:39:00Myron Gainesno. No. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Alright. So we're reading the super chat profiles.

1:39:02FreshTwo polls on Twitch. Yeah. First one is, do women really like funny guys? 51% said, all cap.

1:39:09FreshSecond poll, can women and men be friends? Answer is no, 92%.

1:39:14Myron GainesYeah. It it it just can't be done because one party almost always... One party. Yeah. And it's usually the man wants the woman and the woman friends owns him. Yeah. Because guys, make no mistake about it on this podcast, we tell you all all the time. Men want sex, women want attention. They don't care how they get your attention, they just want it. You know what I'm saying? Whether you take them out on dates, whether you talk to them, whatever it is, because women get validation from you talking to them without fucking them, bro, because that puts them on on a pedestal. You know what I'm saying? Period. But that's just the way

1:39:41Freshit goes. Okay. Super close, real quick. Okay.

1:39:44FreshSuper Super

1:39:45Freshreal

1:39:53Freshreal quick. Super

1:39:54Myron Gainesthen we'll let the ladies grill us and ask a question because... Can you guys... Can't make it one-sided.

1:39:58FreshCan you guys and ladies talk more about average guys? Say if we make 45 k a year and are able to pay bills and rent so our priorities are taken care of. What expectations and boundaries should average men have for someone there in a relationship?

1:40:09Myron GainesI'm gonna keep it a stack with you, bro. I'm not gonna let the ladies answer that because I'm gonna tell you right now.

1:40:13FreshYeah.

1:40:13Myron GainesIf you're an average guy, you're invisible to most women, bro. I if see they're you. See I I

1:40:19Kimberlysee y'all invisible men, ninjas and whoever.

1:40:22PenelopeShe's spiritual, so she's looking beyond...

1:40:24VanessaShe sees everything.

1:40:25Mike RashidShe... Keep in

1:40:26Myron Gainesmind that she grew up with a guy that didn't buy her a drink at a club. So... Okay.

1:40:29KimberlyI bought my own drink. I wasn't mad at the stuff.

1:40:32Speaker 2Don't know about the... It's not

1:40:35Penelopea bad thing.

1:40:35Myron GainesNo, bro.

1:40:36KimberlyY'all taking it because

1:40:37Speaker 2It used...

1:40:37Mike RashidIt was a bad thing for him.

1:40:38Speaker 2It was triggering.

1:40:39KimberlyMean, y'all... That's y'all triggering.

1:40:41Myron GainesI'm I'm

1:40:43Myron Gainesjust... Remember remember, guys, this podcast is for men.

1:40:46KimberlySo on my card.

1:40:47Myron GainesI'm telling him that most women don't see average dudes. They... They're invisible. $45 a year? Somehow it's gonna laugh

1:40:52Kimberlyat average women. So it's like...

1:40:54Speaker 2Yeah. They can't Women

1:40:55Freshdon't settle. Think about it. Right?

1:40:57IslaYes, they do.

1:40:58PenelopeYeah. They do all the time.

1:40:59FreshNo. No. No. They settle for a little bit No. And they relate it's not worth it, and then they leave the guy. So off road...

1:41:04Speaker 2Is that what happened to you? Is that... No. I'm

1:41:05Myron Gainesnot gonna

1:41:06Speaker 2do that. No.

1:41:06FreshI'm just saying that... Think about this. Right? The guys that you want, six feet tall, make a certain amount of money or they're successful in in their own rights. Me... Average guy, you you gonna look at him and like, okay, what what you got to offer me?

1:41:17KimberlyYeah. Let me tell you what hurts most. When you say, yo, this guy, he's vibes, he look good. He's not really my type. I like tall dudes, whatever, but vibe. I go talk to him,

1:41:27Kimberlythen we're vibing, whatever the case may be, and then you're talking to 10 other bitches, like, you wasn't even my type in the... To start with. I just said, you know what, I like your vibe and I'm gonna... And I get it, it could go vice versa. I'm just speaking from my point of view, like,

1:41:41Kimberlywomen will go after somebody who's just into them or whatever the case may be. But then it's kind of like a shot in your freaking back when it's like you wasn't even my type to begin with, and I gave you a chance, and then you just took my energy basically because

1:41:54KimberlyI'm pretty sure... I'm not pretty sure, but it's just like you took my energy or whatever the case may be, and you took that to go and back other bitches. Because let's keep it real, like, a ugly ass dude could have a pretty ass girl. Somebody was never paying no attention to that dude until he comes with a certain female in his arm.

1:42:12KimberlyPeriod. Like, I don't care. Like, nobody could look at this dude for, like, a whole month, and then he'll pop up on social media with somebody and then it's just, like, all women are attracted to him not because it's... I mean, yes, some of it is because of him.

1:42:22Myron GainesYour statement literally proves what we're saying. Exactly. You have a guy that's not that attractive a k a average and or maybe on your level and you feel insulted that he's even talking to other women. That's what I'm trying

1:42:32Speaker 2to say....

1:42:33KimberlyBut

1:42:33Kimberlythen you disrespect me.

1:42:35Myron GainesHold on. Hold on. He's not disrespecting you because I guarantee that you were talking to other dudes too. Women play the game too. No. It's just that women have a serious problem when men play the game as well, especially if the guy is average and or worse looking than her. Here's the thing. You guys might not like hearing this, but a woman will 100% tolerate cheating and a dude smashing other chicks if his value is high enough. If it's ugly dude, that's a bum. She's gonna feel some type of way. I took a chance on you. You're not even my type. Yep. I was your girl, and you cheat on me. I'm pissed. But if... Let it be Drake. Let it be future. Let it be a professional athlete. He smashed another chick. You know what? It is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Women will share

1:43:08Speaker 2you when your high value is. I mean,

1:43:10Myron Gainescould.

1:43:11Myron GainesWomen will share you. Women will share you when you're high value enough. On this podcast, we tell guys, listen. You could be average to get chicks, but understand that most women that are average want a guy that's exceptional. Period. Women day up. That's how it is. She makes $50 a year, she wants a guy that makes at least 75 to a $100 a year. So you need to become better because being average,

1:43:31Myron Gainesyou ain't gonna... You're not gonna stand out.

1:43:33FreshOr get it.

1:43:34Myron GainesSo so... Chuck's dumb.

1:43:36Myron GainesAnyway, going back to what I was saying.

1:43:37FreshThat that