Appeal: evidence
From Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity.
- #109640:18upheld Daniel Haqiqatjou epainos: evidence (+2)
The council upheld the call: Daniel Haqiqatjou earned 2 points.
“… look at what Luke nineteen forty says. I tell you, he replied, if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out. Stones will cry out according to the New Testament. Do the stones have minds?”
Diogenes: He supplies three cited biblical parallels of speech ascribed to mindless things, putting the burden on Sam to show why the Qur'anic case is different rather than merely denying the charge.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: This continues S2's standing defense (since his opening) that personification/attributes do not entail separate minds or persons, now marshalling specific textual evidence against Sam's parallel argument; it is not a departure from his position. Daniel cites a specific, checkable verse (Luke 19:40) as evidence that speech/personification is ascribed to non-minded things in the Bible too, directly countering Sam's inference from the Qur'anic hadith. This distinguishes claim from checkable evidence and shifts the argumentative burden appropriately.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "evidence". Daniel again grounds his rebuttal in a specific, checkable citation (Luke 19:40) rather than bare assertion, using the biblical parallel of stones "crying out" to press his point that personification does not entail minds — directly engaging Sam's earlier challenge with textual evidence from the opposing side's own scripture.
- Plato uphold: On the record: S2's sustained rebuttal to Sam's "interceding suras" argument is to cite scriptural personification parallels; this is another instance of that same method, citing a specific checkable verse (Luke 19:40) consistent with his position throughout this round. Citing a specific, checkable New Testament verse to press an internal-critique disanalogy is a clear instance of evidence, consistent with the same tactic S2 uses repeatedly and consistently across this exchange.
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