Appeal: evidence
From Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity.
- #11151:15:27upheld Daniel Haqiqatjou epainos: evidence (+1)
The council upheld the call: Daniel Haqiqatjou earned 1 point.
“… we have manuscripts, physical manuscripts that archaeologic archaeologists have found that date are radiocarbon dated to the time of the prophet, peace be upon him, that match with what Muslims read, memorize, and recite today.”
Diogenes: He answers a manuscript argument with a manuscript claim of the same type — dated physical evidence set against the fourth-century date of the earliest complete New Testament — which is checkable rather than rhetorical.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: This is consistent with S2's standing argument (also stated in his teammate Ijaz's opening) that Qur'anic manuscript preservation surpasses New Testament preservation by this same dating metric; not a new or shifted claim. Daniel cites a checkable type of evidence (radiocarbon-dated physical manuscripts matching the recited Qur'an) directly comparable to the manuscript-dating standard being used against the New Testament, distinguishing claim from checkable evidence in a like-for-like comparison.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "evidence". Daniel grounds his claim of Qur'anic textual preservation in a specific, checkable type of evidence — radiocarbon-dated physical manuscripts matching the text read today — rather than a bare assertion of reliability. He later substantiates this further with named scholars and books (Sinai, Sadeghi and Goudarzi, Sean Anthony), showing the claim was meant to be, and was, backed by citable material.
- Plato uphold: On the record: S2 has consistently argued (and later specifies with named scholars and books) that physical Qur'anic manuscripts are radiocarbon-dated to the Prophet's lifetime, contrasting this with the New Testament's fourth-century earliest complete manuscript; this quote is part of that same sustained, checkable evidentiary claim. Citing radiocarbon-dated physical manuscripts as a comparative data point is a checkable evidentiary claim (later substantiated with named scholars/books), consistent with S2's sustained argument on manuscript dating.
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