Appeal: direct answer
From Jay Dyer vs 2 Freemason Christians.
- #12181:03:20upheld Ryan Terbibull epainos: direct answer (+1)
The council upheld the call: Ryan Terbibull earned 1 point.
“… we teach the four carnal [cardinal] virtues. Four to do, prudence, temperance and justice.”
Diogenes: Asked repeatedly what the moral content of the craft actually is, he names it specifically — the cardinal virtues and the liberal arts — instead of retreating again to what Masonry is not.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: Consistent with S2's declared position that Masonry has real moral/philosophical teachings drawn from various traditions; this is a direct substantiation of that claim, not a departure. Pressed repeatedly on what actual moral content the craft teaches, Ryan directly names specifics (the cardinal virtues) rather than continuing to answer in the negative ("what Masonry is not"), addressing the question actually asked.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "direct answer". Pressed on what moral/philosophical teachings Masonry actually uses to "make good men better," Terbibull gives a specific, concrete answer — the four cardinal virtues (prudence, temperance, fortitude, justice) — rather than continuing to speak only in generalities.
- Plato uphold: On the record: S2's position has held that Masonry teaches moral and philosophical content drawn from various traditions; pressed repeatedly for the specific content, he names the cardinal virtues concretely rather than retreating to negative claims about what Masonry is not. This is a genuine direct answer, naming specific moral content (the cardinal virtues) in response to Jay's repeated demand for the substance of Masonic teaching, rather than deflecting.
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