Appeal: direct answer
From Jay Dyer vs 2 Freemason Christians.
- #12451:54:11upheld Chase Geyser epainos: direct answer (+1)
The council upheld the call: Chase Geyser earned 1 point.
“… there are some brothers in the fraternity for example, who I would not consider brothers in Christ, because we don't share the same theological, well, I wouldn't take communion with these people, but what we're doing in the in the Masonic Lodge is not it's not like a religious sacrament…”
Diogenes: He meets the "unequally yoked" objection by distinguishing fraternal from sacramental brotherhood and marks the line he would not cross, rather than blurring the terms.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: S3 has held from the opening that Masonry is a civic-fraternal, non-metaphysical institution rather than a rival religion; this answer applies that same framework consistently to the "unequally yoked" challenge rather than departing from it. Asked why he fraternizes with those holding an antichrist deity given Paul's "unequally yoked" warning, Chase directly answers by distinguishing fraternal association (Lodge brotherhood) from sacramental religious communion, explicitly marking a line he would not cross (no communion with non-Christian brothers), which is a direct, substantive response to the question posed.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "clarification", on the same ledger as the callout. Responding to the "unequally yoked" challenge, Chase distinguishes being a fraternal "brother" (a civic/social bond) from being a "brother in Christ" (a communion-level theological bond), splitting the equivocal sense of fellowship the question assumed rather than simply asserting there's no problem. This is a substantive attempt to answer a real biblical objection rather than deflect it.
- Plato uphold: On the record: S3 has held since the opening that Masonry is a civic-fraternal, non-metaphysical institution rather than a rival religion or sacramental body; this answer is a direct application of that standing distinction, not a new position. Directly addressing the "unequally yoked" challenge about fraternizing with non-Christians as "brothers," Chase draws a clear distinction between fraternal association (Masonic brotherhood) and sacramental/spiritual communion (Christian brotherhood), explicitly marking that he would not take communion with such members. This is a substantive, on-point answer to the question asked rather than an evasion.
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