Appeal: concession

From Jay Dyer vs Pedro from Crucible Debate: Sola Scriptura and Protestantism.

• #145341:18upheld Pedro epainos: concession (+1)
  The council upheld the call: Pedro earned 1 point.
  “It was not mine. It was the Apocrypha…”
  Diogenes: He concedes at once, against his own interest, that his patristic witness held a canon he rejects, rather than evading the question.
  • Aristotle uphold: On the record: Pedro has held throughout that scripture (his Protestant canon) is the final authority; admitting his own key patristic witness held a different canon runs against his own interest and is a genuine concession, not a restatement of his position. Pedro had been quoting Augustine as backing his sola scriptura position; here, pressed on Augustine's actual canon, he immediately and directly admits it included the Apocrypha (a canon he himself rejects), which works against his own use of Augustine as a supporting witness rather than evading or minimizing the problem.
  • Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "concession". Having earlier quoted Augustine as an ally for his own view of scripture's authority, Pedro here candidly admits that Augustine's actual canon (including the Apocrypha) was not his own canon, conceding a fact that undercuts his prior appeal to Augustine rather than dodging or minimizing it.
  • Plato uphold: On the record: Pedro's position was that scripture (his Protestant canon) is the sole infallible rule and that patristic witnesses like Augustine support sola scriptura in essence; admitting Augustine held a different canon is a concession that complicates that use of Augustine, not a departure into a new framework. Pedro directly and honestly admits that Augustine's canon (including the Apocrypha) differs from his own Protestant canon, which undercuts his own earlier use of Augustine as a supporting witness — this is a genuine concession against his interest rather than an evasion.
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