Appeal: misrepresentation
From @deanwithrs Gets DESTROYED In Heated Debate On God Then RUNS.
- #195029:14upheld Cooley psogos: misrepresentation (+2)
The council upheld the call: Cooley gave away 2 points.
“He says, well, it exists with my intuition. But then he walks it back and he says, no, I access it with my intuition. So he never actually answered the question of where it exists…”
Diogenes: In his after-call recap he gives Dean a claim Dean never made (that logic exists "with" his intuition) and says Dean never answered "where," though Dean answered twice (22:01, 27:05) that abstract objects have no location in space and time.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: Cooley has held throughout this debate a pattern (already upheld at 10:51, 24:10, 25:24) of recasting Dean's stated positions into cruder or reversed versions during his recap monologues; here, in his post-exchange recap, he attributes to Dean a claim ("it exists with my intuition") Dean never made and declares Dean "never actually answered" where logic exists, though Dean twice gave that same answer on the record (22:01, 27:10-27:22). The verifier confirms the phrase "exists with my intuition" belongs to Cooley's own recap, not to anything Dean said, and confirms Dean twice answered the "where" question (platonic objects have no spatiotemporal location); this squarely fits misrepresentation, and given it forms part of the victory-declaring recap central to Cooley's framing of the whole exchange, major severity is well supported.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "misrepresentation". This recap, given right after Dean leaves the floor, restates the same false narrative already flagged twice in the live exchange (24:10, 25:24): that Dean first said logic "exists with my intuition" and then "walked it back" to say he merely accesses it that way. The transcript shows Dean never claimed intuition was the location of logic — from his first answer (22:55-23:27) he held that platonic objects have no spatiotemporal location and that intuition is simply how he comes to know facts about them; there was no reversal to walk back, only a clarification of a position Cooley had already misread.
- Plato uphold: On the record: S0 (Cooley) has repeatedly (at 24:10, 25:24, and now here) attributed to Dean the claim that intuition is the location/existence-site of logic, when Dean's consistent, twice-repeated answer (22:01, 27:10) was that platonic objects have no spatiotemporal location at all, with intuition serving only as epistemic access to that abstract object. The verifier confirms the phrase "it exists with my intuition" is Cooley's own words, never spoken by Dean, and that Dean did in fact answer the "where" question twice; recapping this to the chat as Dean never having answered, after inventing a claim to "walk back," is misrepresentation, and doing so in a summary delivered to the audience makes it a clear, load-bearing instance.
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