Appeal: evidence
From HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial.
- #20121:47:02upheld Myron Gaines epainos: evidence (+1)
The council upheld the call: Myron Gaines earned 1 point.
“I'll tell you the couple studies. So this what they've done. They looked at Tinder studies. The women find 88% plus of the men is unattractive,…”
Diogenes: After being pressed twice, Myron finally points to a type of source that can be checked (Tinder attractiveness-rating data) and says what it measured. He does not give a specific citation, and the data is about dating-app ratings rather than who is sleeping with whom.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: Myron's declared method throughout is to present claims as "fact-based" studies-backed rather than opinion; when pressed twice by Isla for his sources (105:33, 106:36), this line marks a real (if imperfect) departure from his usual bare assertion toward naming an actual checkable category of data. Unlike his bare "biologically proven" assertions elsewhere, here Myron names an actual checkable genre of research (Tinder attractiveness-rating data) in direct response to being pressed for sources, which distinguishes claim from evidence even though the citation is unspecific and the data measures attractiveness ratings rather than sexual-partner counts — a real but limited step toward evidence, fitting the minor severity given.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "evidence". Pressed directly by Isla's "where are these studies coming from?", Myron for once goes beyond a bare gesture at "studies" or "biology" and names an actual source type (Tinder attractiveness-rating data) with a specific checkable figure (88%+ of men rated below-average), distinguishing this from his earlier unsourced "studies show" assertions.
- Plato uphold: On the record: Myron's declared framework throughout is to claim he argues from checkable facts rather than feelings; this moment, coming only after repeated pressing for sourcing, is a genuine (if imperfect) instance of him actually naming something checkable rather than a mere restatement of his usual vague appeals, so it is not a departure but an improved application of his own stated framework. Pressed twice by Isla for a source, Myron here names a specific source-type (Tinder attractiveness-rating data) and a specific figure (88%), which is a meaningfully more concrete and checkable claim than his earlier bare "there are studies" invocations that were scored as appeal to authority — the Tinder/OkCupid finding that a large majority of men are rated below-average by women on dating apps is in fact a real, documented phenomenon, distinguishable from his unsupported sex-partner-distribution claim at 87:46.
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