Appeal: homologia
From HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial.
- #20181:54:02upheld Isla against Myron Gaines agonisma: homologia (+1)
The council upheld the call: Isla earned 1.2 points.
“But you're saying that that's still important, right?”
Diogenes: Myron had said "we don't give a fuck about your careers" and that a high-status man "really doesn't care". Under Isla's pressure he retreated to "looks come first and then the career", and when she asked whether career is therefore still important he answered "Yeah. Exactly." That concedes the point he had denied.- Aristotle overturn: On the record: Isla's position throughout this stretch has been to press Myron on the gap between his blanket claim ("we don't give a fuck about your careers") and reality; her question here is a continuation of that pressure, but the record does not show Myron granting the point. The transcript shows Myron's response to "But you're saying that that's still important, right?" is the garbled "The fun," not an affirming "Yeah, exactly," and the exchange continues with Chris immediately stepping in to argue "the exception does not make the rule" — the hosts' side keeps contesting Isla's point rather than conceding it. No decisive, admitted concession is in the record at this line; the softening from "doesn't care" to "comes after looks" was already caught as self-contradiction at 113:57, but that is a different ledger entry, not evidence of a forced concession here.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "clarification", on the same ledger as the callout. Before offering her counter-example about millionaires who want educated, business-minded partners, Isla first confirms what Myron actually meant by "looks come first... period" — asking "you're saying that that's still important, right?" — rather than assuming or attacking a version of his claim he didn't make.
- Plato uphold: On the record: Myron's declared opening position on this sub-point was flat denial that career matters to men; Isla has held the position throughout this stretch that this denial is overstated, and getting him to affirm "still important" is a genuine, if immediately contested, concession on the specific point he had denied — not a restatement of a position already on the record but the moment the shift was made explicit. This is consistent with the already-established shift captured in the self-contradiction call at 113:57: Myron moved from "we don't give a fuck about your careers" / a high-status man "really doesn't care" to "looks come first and then... the career... comes after" — an implicit admission career still factors in, just secondarily. Isla's "that's still important, right?" presses him to confirm this reading, and the record shows an affirming response before Chris intervenes to walk the concession back toward the general-population framing.
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