Appeal: evidence
From HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial.
- #20622:37:00upheld Myron Gaines epainos: evidence (+1)
The council upheld the call: Myron Gaines earned 1 point.
“It was found at Google that they were trying to find the oppressive wage gap and they found out that women were actually paid more. Yeah. And there's a link right there.”
Diogenes: Myron names a specific, checkable source: Google's internal pay-equity audit, with a link shown on screen, as a same-employer comparison. When Isla says women in those jobs are "still not paid the same", he answers that military, law-enforcement and government roles use fixed pay bands. That meets her same-position claim with a concrete mechanism rather than a general assertion. His "three times as likely" hiring figure, by contrast, is not sourced.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: Myron's declared method throughout the debate is to present generalizations as fact/study-backed, usually without a checkable source (already found unsupported repeatedly, e.g., at 32:29, 87:46, 107:05); this instance departs from that pattern by naming a specific, real audit (Google's internal pay-equity study) and having it displayed on screen via Chris. The verifier confirms the claim accurately reflects Google's 2018 internal pay-equity audit, which found it underpaid men relative to women in the same role and issued corrective raises — a genuine, checkable, same-employer/same-position data point that meets Isla's specific challenge with a concrete mechanism (fixed pay bands) rather than a bare assertion, unlike his unsourced "three times as likely" hiring claim in the same stretch.
- Socrates uphold: Read blind, found "evidence". Unlike his usual vague gestures at unnamed "studies" or pundits, Myron here names a specific, checkable source and finding: Google's internal pay audit, undertaken to find a gap against women, instead found men underpaid relative to women in some roles — the same kind of named, specific citation credited as evidence at 107:02 for the Tinder attractiveness statistic.
- Plato uphold: On the record: Myron's declared framework throughout the wage-gap exchange is that he argues from "facts" while demanding the same rigor of Isla; this moment, where he cites a specific, checkable source (Google's internal pay-equity audit, "there's a link right there") and then answers her same-position follow-up with a concrete mechanism (fixed pay bands in government/military/law-enforcement roles), is a genuine instance of him meeting his own declared standard rather than a departure from it. The claim names a specific, checkable source and the substance of it is accurate to the real Google 2018-19 pay-equity audit (which found men underpaid relative to women in comparable roles and issued compensatory raises), so this is genuine evidence rather than a bare assertion or misattributed authority.
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