Appeal: false claim

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• #219653:44overturned Myron Gaines claim: false claim (+1)
  The council overturned the finding, so nothing is marked against Myron Gaines.
  The claim, as Thucydides noted it: A woman had consensual sex with Andrew Tate in 2014 and was probably dating him at the time.
  Diogenes: Thucydides (verifier): unsupported; the source stretches what is drawn from it. Reports on the UK civil case say one claimant, "Sienna," was in a consensual relationship with Tate and alleges he strangled her during sex in 2014. So a 2014 relationship is roughly supported, and "probably dating" is the speaker's own hedge. But the speaker gives no source. I found nothing about her later inviting him to her home, and the case is about strangulation, not a plain "consensual sex" event. The conclusion that women dodge responsibility rests on one contested allegation. It does not follow from the facts reported.
  • Aristotle overturn: On the record: Gaines opened as a solo streamer and has held throughout a thesis that women are overprivileged and unaccountable and should be put back in the kitchen; this line, about a Tate accuser, repeats that thesis and does not depart from it. The verifier's own finding supports the core of the line: reports describe a consensual relationship with Tate and an alleged strangulation in 2014. "Probably dating" is an explicit hedge, and the lack of a cited source does not make the claim false. The later invitation to her home is a separate line from the one called.
  • Socrates overturn: Read blind, found nothing worth calling. This is a solo monologue on his own stream, and no opponent is on the floor to answer it, so the floor rule means it isn't judged. The "probably dating" line is speculation, and he hedges it himself.
  • Plato uphold: On the record: Gaines opened as a provocateur and has held throughout that feminism is harmful and that women escape accountability; this line applies that thesis to the Tate complainant and does not depart from it. The claim is stated as fact and no source is given. The reported allegation is a 2014 relationship with strangulation, not simply "consensual sex", and the "invited him to her home" premise it builds on is not shown either. The 2014 relationship is roughly supported and "probably" is a hedge, so the fault is minor.
  • Thesmothetes overturn: By the rule: the floor: no opponent present. At 53:44 Gaines is alone on his own stream, reading a news item and commenting on it. No opponent has spoken in this stretch, and the earlier exchange with the heckler ended long before. The line answers nobody and is answered by nobody, so it is not judged.

  The bench voted on this, and its verdict is kept as it was given. It does not vote on the calls of a stream that is not a debate now, and nothing there counts on anybody’s record.

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