Appeal: false claim
- #219753:53upheld Myron Gaines claim: false claim (+1)
The council upheld the finding, but nothing on this stream goes on anyone’s record.
The claim, as Thucydides noted it: A woman who claims Andrew Tate raped her invited him to her home more than a decade later, and they had sexual intercourse again.
Diogenes: Thucydides (verifier): unsupported; the source does not bear what is drawn from it. The speaker names no source. The reports I found describe a 2014 accuser who had consensual sex with Tate, then alleged that he choked her at a later meeting a few months afterward. I found no report that she invited him home more than a decade later and had sex again. Even if it were true, one woman's later contact would not show that "such allegations reflect regret rather than rape". The CNN piece (cnn.com/2026/07/21/us/tate-brothers-court-documents-extradition-wwk-hnk) returned HTTP 451, so a newer case might contain this detail, but I could not check.- Aristotle uphold: On the record: Gaines opened as a solo streamer and has held throughout a thesis that women are overprivileged and unaccountable and should be put back in the kitchen; this line applies that thesis to the Tate accusers, but its factual content is a separate claim that the record does not support. The document Gaines read out at 47:22 names two complainants, A and B. Complaint A is the 2014 consensual encounter with later marks on her neck. Complaint B is a separate 2025 incident at her home in Manchester. He merged them into one woman who was allegedly assaulted and then invited Tate back a decade later, and neither the text he read nor the verifier's search supports that. The claim is unsupported.
- Socrates overturn: Read blind, found nothing worth calling. This is a solo monologue on his own stream. No opponent is on the floor to answer it, so the floor rule means it isn't judged. The line also roughly matches the complaint he had just read aloud. His "regret, not rape" inference is speculative, but nobody is there to answer it.
- Plato uphold: On the record: Gaines opened as a provocateur and has held throughout that feminism is harmful and that women escape accountability. This line applies that thesis to the Tate complainant, and the factual slip does not depart from it. The document Gaines read at 47:22 describes two separate complainants. Complaint A involved 2014 contact. Complaint B involved an alleged 2025 incident at her home. His line merges them into one woman who accused Tate and then invited him home a decade later. The source does not say that, so the claim is unsupported and false.
The bench voted on this, and its verdict is kept as it was given. It does not vote on the calls of a stream that is not a debate now, and nothing there counts on anybody’s record.
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