The Record — Elenchus

Person	Philosopher	Sophist	Net	Soundness	Sage	Standing	Points per hour	Debates
Matt SlickProtestant apologist; runs carm.org. Religio (Worldview) Protestant (Five-point Calvinist) 5 Philosopher, 8 Sophist, 38% soundness +1.6 sage, Sophist Credentials Master of Divinity Affiliations Runs carm.org Argues by Presuppositionalist who holds evidence and reason may still be used, Tests every claim against scripture as the only infallible authority, Presuppositionalist who tests every claim and tradition against scripture, and 2 more Style Returns over and over to one demand, that they open the text, Complains loudly to the moderators about interruption and unfairness, Cites chapter, verse and Greek vocabulary from memory in rapid strings, and 5 more Points per hour 6.1 Philosopher, 9.8 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 919 turns averaging 3.2 seconds, longest 27 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: evidence (1), explicit argument (1), fallacy spotted (1) Caught at: ad hominem (5), misrepresentation (1) 1 debate (Neos): Fr. Ananias and Jay Dyer vs Matt Slick: Orthodoxy vs Protestantism Debate The whole record Matt SlickWithered wreath	5	8	−3	38%	7	Sophist 40%	6.1 / 9.8	1 debate Neos
Myron GainesMyron Gaines is a 36-year-old streamer and author whose viral tweet said Muslims in America should behave more strategically and that the US is a Christian country. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam 16.6 Philosopher, 25 Sophist, 39% soundness +2.5 sage, Sophist Affiliations Rumble channel rumble.com/marranojoux, Fresh Fit podcast (host), Fresh Fit Podcast (co-host) Argues by says he argues from statistics and generalities "on a balance of probability", not from exceptions Style walks the audience through arguments step by step and asks chat to answer along the way, argues through household analogies about guests and hosts, keeps time strictly and reshapes the format mid-debate to stop crosstalk, and 3 more Points per hour 6.8 Philosopher, 10.3 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 1927 turns averaging 4.5 seconds, longest 68 seconds, across 3 debates Best at: evidence (4), explicit argument (4), aporia (1) Caught at: ad hominem (5), self-contradiction (4), appeal to authority (3) 2 debates (Neos): HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial; Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity; Muslim Twitter Triggered, Middleast Wars, Is America A Christian Country Debate With Sneako! The whole record Myron GainesWithered wreath	16.6	25	−8.4	39%	12	Sophist 42%	6.8 / 10.3	2 debates Neos
PedroPedro is a young Reformed Southern Baptist who says this was one of his first big theology debates. Religio (Worldview) Protestant (Southern Baptist / Reformed Calvinist) 11 Philosopher, 15 Sophist, 42% soundness +1.2 sage, Sophist Affiliations Southern Baptist, submits to the elders of his local church, The Crucible (debate channel), per the host's introduction Argues by sola scriptura as defined by the 1689 London Baptist Confession Style cites patristic quotes with volume and page references, concedes errors quickly and apologises with "my bad", builds his cross-examination as a string of leading questions, each answered with "Perfect" Points per hour 11.9 Philosopher, 16.2 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 933 turns averaging 3.6 seconds, longest 24 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), concession (2), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), dodge (2), ad hominem (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Pedro from Crucible Debate: Sola Scriptura and Protestantism The whole record PedroWithered wreath	11	15	−4	42%	5	Sophist 43%	11.9 / 16.2	1 debate Neos
Ijaz AhmadA Muslim debater from EF Dawah and the I3 Institute who filled in for Jake at the last minute on the Muslim team. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam (Sunni) 7 Philosopher, 8 Sophist, 46% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations EF Dawah and the I3 Institute Argues by Qur'anic exegesis plus internal critique of the New Testament text, authenticity judged by traceable chain of…, Divine unity with attributes not distinct persons, and 1 more Style argues from New Testament textual criticism, citing manuscripts, scribal changes and named textual critics, turns to personal insinuation about his opponent in the later rounds Points per hour 15.7 Philosopher, 18.0 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 353 turns averaging 4.5 seconds, longest 37 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), evidence (1), explicit argument (1) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), ad hominem (1), loaded question (1) 1 debate (Neos): Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity The whole record Ijaz Ahmad	7	8	−1	46%	9	Rhetorician 48%	15.7 / 18.0	1 debate Neos
Timothy GordonCatholic commentator who argued, on legal standards of reasonable suspicion, that Israel's possible role in Charlie Kirk's killing warranted investigation. Religio (Worldview) Roman Catholic 7 Philosopher, 7 Sophist, 50% soundness +1.2 sage, Rhetorician Credentials Thomist philosopher with graduate philosophy training; has taught theology for many years, States he is a trained attorney Affiliations Hosts the podcast Rules for Retrogrades Argues by Thomist and Aristotelian: argues from act and potency and analogical predication of being, and reduces arguments to syllogisms Style repeatedly accuses his opponent of equivocation and tells the audience to check his claims, answers cross-examination with long defensive explanations and asks questions back, which the moderator had to rule out Points per hour 4.6 Philosopher, 4.6 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 1635 turns averaging 3.4 seconds, longest 29 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: evidence (2), direct answer (1), explicit argument (1) Caught at: false dilemma (1), misrepresentation (1), self-contradiction (1) 1 debate (Neos): The Catholicism or Orthodoxy DEBATE: Tim Gordon vs. Jay Dyer \| The Rift The whole record Timothy Gordon	7	7	0	50%	5	Rhetorician 51%	4.6 / 4.6	1 debate Neos
Mike LowryHe was raised a born-again evangelical in California and went through atheism and psychedelics in his twenties. Later he came back to Christianity through the Urantia Book. Religio (Worldview) Urantian 9.4 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 51% soundness +1.2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Channel on DLive Argues by Appeals first to personal spiritual experience Style asks to take one point at a time, poses hypothetical thought experiments, sets challenges aside to think about later Points per hour 16.2 Philosopher, 15.5 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 706 turns averaging 3.0 seconds, longest 20 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (2), explicit argument (2), clarification (1) Caught at: ad hominem (1), equivocation (1), no true Scotsman (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Mike Lowry Urantia Debate: Christianity vs Urantianism The whole record Mike Lowry	9.4	9	+0.4	51%	5	Rhetorician 52%	16.2 / 15.5	1 debate Neos
Ryan DawsonA political commentator who says he is deplatformed nearly everywhere and now publishes from his own site Religio (Worldview) Other (Not against theology; still attends church weekly, objecting to religion's political and financial uses rather than its) 12 Philosopher, 10 Sophist, 54% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Runs the website ancreport.com (the Anti-Neocon Report), Streams at Cozy TV slash Dawson Argues by Argues from pragmatism and empirical testing: beliefs are justified because they work, Self-described consequentialist about the value of beliefs Style Concedes ignorance as an answer, repeating that we cannot know, Presses moral intuition and accuses his opponent of feigning ignorance, Apologises mid-debate for being unprepared and unwell, and 1 more Points per hour 13.1 Philosopher, 10.9 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 935 turns averaging 3.5 seconds, longest 25 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), concession (2), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), argument from ignorance (1), begging the question (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Ryan Dawson Debate: Theism vs Anti-Theism, Christianity vs Nihilism, Relativism, Atheism The whole record Ryan Dawson	12	10	+2	54%	9	Rhetorician 56%	13.1 / 10.9	1 debate Neos
Austin PetersonAustin Peterson is a libertarian from Missouri who hosts a daily morning talk show and once ran for president. Religio (Worldview) not stated 17 Philosopher, 13 Sophist, 56% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Hosts the Wake Up America show at rumble.com/apforliberty ("AP for Liberty") Argues by triangulation: gathering facts first rather than starting from revealed truth Style answers challenges with personal insults, declines metaethical questions as boring, argues through long runs of historical examples Points per hour 27.5 Philosopher, 21.1 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 572 turns averaging 3.9 seconds, longest 29 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (6), evidence (3), explicit argument (3) Caught at: ad hominem (2), dodge (2), self-contradiction (2) 1 debate (Neos): Debate MELTDOWN: Worst Opponent Yet: Austin Peterson Libertarian Debate Vs Jay Dyer The whole record Austin Peterson	17	13	+4	56%	9	Rhetorician 58%	27.5 / 21.1	1 debate Neos
CB RobertsonA married construction worker who says he has studied philosophy for nine years and has written a book with arguments against Christianity. Religio (Worldview) Pagan ((non-), per the debate framing) 13.4 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 59% soundness +1.2 sage, Dialectician Argues by Builds his worldview organically from the bottom up, without a top-down system, and prefers a cooperative, conversational kind of inquiry Style apologizes and concedes points openly, including admitting he came unprepared, supports his points by naming sources and books instead of formal arguments, stops to ask clarifying questions about his opponent's terms Points per hour 15.0 Philosopher, 10.1 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 1164 turns averaging 2.8 seconds, longest 17 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: concession (4), direct answer (1), escape between the horns (1) Caught at: ad hominem (2), appeal to authority (1), dodge (1) 1 debate (Neos): Debate! Pagan vs. Orthodox: Logos, Language & Metaphysics - Jay Dyer Vs CB Robertson The whole record CB Robertson	13.4	9	+4.4	59%	5	Dialectician 60%	15.0 / 10.1	1 debate Neos
Muslim LanternMuslim Lantern is a Muslim debater with his own channel who argued Tawheed against Jay Dyer's Trinity, after an earlier exchange with Andrew Wilson that same night. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam (Sunni) 17.6 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 66% soundness +1.2 sage, Dialectician Affiliations runs a channel with videos on evidence for Islam Argues by judges earlier scripture by the Quran: accepts what agrees with it, rejects what contradicts it, stays agnostic on the rest Style reads scholars' quotations with titles and page numbers, answers challenges by asking his opponent to define the terms, asks the moderators to enforce turns and mute his opponent Points per hour 45.8 Philosopher, 23.4 Sophist Measured speaks in measured turns, asks often: 255 turns averaging 5.4 seconds, longest 62 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), clarification (3), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (2), ad hominem (1), equivocation (1) 1 debate (Neos): FULL Muslim Lantern Vs Jay Dyer Debate / SNEAKO - Islam / Christianity The whole record Muslim Lantern	17.6	9	+8.6	66%	5	Dialectician 67%	45.8 / 23.4	1 debate Neos

Matt SlickProtestant apologist; runs carm.org. Religio (Worldview) Protestant (Five-point Calvinist) 5 Philosopher, 8 Sophist, 38% soundness +1.6 sage, Sophist Credentials Master of Divinity Affiliations Runs carm.org Argues by Presuppositionalist who holds evidence and reason may still be used, Tests every claim against scripture as the only infallible authority, Presuppositionalist who tests every claim and tradition against scripture, and 2 more Style Returns over and over to one demand, that they open the text, Complains loudly to the moderators about interruption and unfairness, Cites chapter, verse and Greek vocabulary from memory in rapid strings, and 5 more Points per hour 6.1 Philosopher, 9.8 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 919 turns averaging 3.2 seconds, longest 27 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: evidence (1), explicit argument (1), fallacy spotted (1) Caught at: ad hominem (5), misrepresentation (1) 1 debate (Neos): Fr. Ananias and Jay Dyer vs Matt Slick: Orthodoxy vs Protestantism Debate The whole record Matt SlickWithered wreath

−3

38%

Sophist 40%

6.1 / 9.8

1 debate Neos

Myron GainesMyron Gaines is a 36-year-old streamer and author whose viral tweet said Muslims in America should behave more strategically and that the US is a Christian country. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam 16.6 Philosopher, 25 Sophist, 39% soundness +2.5 sage, Sophist Affiliations Rumble channel rumble.com/marranojoux, Fresh Fit podcast (host), Fresh Fit Podcast (co-host) Argues by says he argues from statistics and generalities "on a balance of probability", not from exceptions Style walks the audience through arguments step by step and asks chat to answer along the way, argues through household analogies about guests and hosts, keeps time strictly and reshapes the format mid-debate to stop crosstalk, and 3 more Points per hour 6.8 Philosopher, 10.3 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 1927 turns averaging 4.5 seconds, longest 68 seconds, across 3 debates Best at: evidence (4), explicit argument (4), aporia (1) Caught at: ad hominem (5), self-contradiction (4), appeal to authority (3) 2 debates (Neos): HEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro Choice ft. @MikeRashidOfficial; Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity; Muslim Twitter Triggered, Middleast Wars, Is America A Christian Country Debate With Sneako! The whole record Myron GainesWithered wreath

16.6

−8.4

39%

Sophist 42%

6.8 / 10.3

2 debates Neos

PedroPedro is a young Reformed Southern Baptist who says this was one of his first big theology debates. Religio (Worldview) Protestant (Southern Baptist / Reformed Calvinist) 11 Philosopher, 15 Sophist, 42% soundness +1.2 sage, Sophist Affiliations Southern Baptist, submits to the elders of his local church, The Crucible (debate channel), per the host's introduction Argues by sola scriptura as defined by the 1689 London Baptist Confession Style cites patristic quotes with volume and page references, concedes errors quickly and apologises with "my bad", builds his cross-examination as a string of leading questions, each answered with "Perfect" Points per hour 11.9 Philosopher, 16.2 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 933 turns averaging 3.6 seconds, longest 24 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), concession (2), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), dodge (2), ad hominem (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Pedro from Crucible Debate: Sola Scriptura and Protestantism The whole record PedroWithered wreath

−4

42%

Sophist 43%

11.9 / 16.2

1 debate Neos

Ijaz AhmadA Muslim debater from EF Dawah and the I3 Institute who filled in for Jake at the last minute on the Muslim team. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam (Sunni) 7 Philosopher, 8 Sophist, 46% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations EF Dawah and the I3 Institute Argues by Qur'anic exegesis plus internal critique of the New Testament text, authenticity judged by traceable chain of…, Divine unity with attributes not distinct persons, and 1 more Style argues from New Testament textual criticism, citing manuscripts, scribal changes and named textual critics, turns to personal insinuation about his opponent in the later rounds Points per hour 15.7 Philosopher, 18.0 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 353 turns averaging 4.5 seconds, longest 37 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), evidence (1), explicit argument (1) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), ad hominem (1), loaded question (1) 1 debate (Neos): Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity The whole record Ijaz Ahmad

−1

46%

Rhetorician 48%

15.7 / 18.0

1 debate Neos

Timothy GordonCatholic commentator who argued, on legal standards of reasonable suspicion, that Israel's possible role in Charlie Kirk's killing warranted investigation. Religio (Worldview) Roman Catholic 7 Philosopher, 7 Sophist, 50% soundness +1.2 sage, Rhetorician Credentials Thomist philosopher with graduate philosophy training; has taught theology for many years, States he is a trained attorney Affiliations Hosts the podcast Rules for Retrogrades Argues by Thomist and Aristotelian: argues from act and potency and analogical predication of being, and reduces arguments to syllogisms Style repeatedly accuses his opponent of equivocation and tells the audience to check his claims, answers cross-examination with long defensive explanations and asks questions back, which the moderator had to rule out Points per hour 4.6 Philosopher, 4.6 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 1635 turns averaging 3.4 seconds, longest 29 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: evidence (2), direct answer (1), explicit argument (1) Caught at: false dilemma (1), misrepresentation (1), self-contradiction (1) 1 debate (Neos): The Catholicism or Orthodoxy DEBATE: Tim Gordon vs. Jay Dyer | The Rift The whole record Timothy Gordon

50%

Rhetorician 51%

4.6 / 4.6

1 debate Neos

Mike LowryHe was raised a born-again evangelical in California and went through atheism and psychedelics in his twenties. Later he came back to Christianity through the Urantia Book. Religio (Worldview) Urantian 9.4 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 51% soundness +1.2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Channel on DLive Argues by Appeals first to personal spiritual experience Style asks to take one point at a time, poses hypothetical thought experiments, sets challenges aside to think about later Points per hour 16.2 Philosopher, 15.5 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 706 turns averaging 3.0 seconds, longest 20 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (2), explicit argument (2), clarification (1) Caught at: ad hominem (1), equivocation (1), no true Scotsman (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Mike Lowry Urantia Debate: Christianity vs Urantianism The whole record Mike Lowry

9.4

+0.4

51%

Rhetorician 52%

16.2 / 15.5

1 debate Neos

Ryan DawsonA political commentator who says he is deplatformed nearly everywhere and now publishes from his own site Religio (Worldview) Other (Not against theology; still attends church weekly, objecting to religion's political and financial uses rather than its) 12 Philosopher, 10 Sophist, 54% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Runs the website ancreport.com (the Anti-Neocon Report), Streams at Cozy TV slash Dawson Argues by Argues from pragmatism and empirical testing: beliefs are justified because they work, Self-described consequentialist about the value of beliefs Style Concedes ignorance as an answer, repeating that we cannot know, Presses moral intuition and accuses his opponent of feigning ignorance, Apologises mid-debate for being unprepared and unwell, and 1 more Points per hour 13.1 Philosopher, 10.9 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 935 turns averaging 3.5 seconds, longest 25 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), concession (2), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (3), argument from ignorance (1), begging the question (1) 1 debate (Neos): Jay Dyer vs Ryan Dawson Debate: Theism vs Anti-Theism, Christianity vs Nihilism, Relativism, Atheism The whole record Ryan Dawson

54%

Rhetorician 56%

13.1 / 10.9

1 debate Neos

Austin PetersonAustin Peterson is a libertarian from Missouri who hosts a daily morning talk show and once ran for president. Religio (Worldview) not stated 17 Philosopher, 13 Sophist, 56% soundness +2 sage, Rhetorician Affiliations Hosts the Wake Up America show at rumble.com/apforliberty ("AP for Liberty") Argues by triangulation: gathering facts first rather than starting from revealed truth Style answers challenges with personal insults, declines metaethical questions as boring, argues through long runs of historical examples Points per hour 27.5 Philosopher, 21.1 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts, asks often: 572 turns averaging 3.9 seconds, longest 29 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (6), evidence (3), explicit argument (3) Caught at: ad hominem (2), dodge (2), self-contradiction (2) 1 debate (Neos): Debate MELTDOWN: Worst Opponent Yet: Austin Peterson Libertarian Debate Vs Jay Dyer The whole record Austin Peterson

56%

Rhetorician 58%

27.5 / 21.1

1 debate Neos

CB RobertsonA married construction worker who says he has studied philosophy for nine years and has written a book with arguments against Christianity. Religio (Worldview) Pagan ((non-), per the debate framing) 13.4 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 59% soundness +1.2 sage, Dialectician Argues by Builds his worldview organically from the bottom up, without a top-down system, and prefers a cooperative, conversational kind of inquiry Style apologizes and concedes points openly, including admitting he came unprepared, supports his points by naming sources and books instead of formal arguments, stops to ask clarifying questions about his opponent's terms Points per hour 15.0 Philosopher, 10.1 Sophist Measured speaks in short bursts: 1164 turns averaging 2.8 seconds, longest 17 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: concession (4), direct answer (1), escape between the horns (1) Caught at: ad hominem (2), appeal to authority (1), dodge (1) 1 debate (Neos): Debate! Pagan vs. Orthodox: Logos, Language & Metaphysics - Jay Dyer Vs CB Robertson The whole record CB Robertson

13.4

+4.4

59%

Dialectician 60%

15.0 / 10.1

1 debate Neos

Muslim LanternMuslim Lantern is a Muslim debater with his own channel who argued Tawheed against Jay Dyer's Trinity, after an earlier exchange with Andrew Wilson that same night. Religio (Worldview) Sunni Islam (Sunni) 17.6 Philosopher, 9 Sophist, 66% soundness +1.2 sage, Dialectician Affiliations runs a channel with videos on evidence for Islam Argues by judges earlier scripture by the Quran: accepts what agrees with it, rejects what contradicts it, stays agnostic on the rest Style reads scholars' quotations with titles and page numbers, answers challenges by asking his opponent to define the terms, asks the moderators to enforce turns and mute his opponent Points per hour 45.8 Philosopher, 23.4 Sophist Measured speaks in measured turns, asks often: 255 turns averaging 5.4 seconds, longest 62 seconds, across 1 debate Best at: direct answer (4), clarification (3), explicit argument (2) Caught at: misrepresentation (2), ad hominem (1), equivocation (1) 1 debate (Neos): FULL Muslim Lantern Vs Jay Dyer Debate / SNEAKO - Islam / Christianity The whole record Muslim Lantern

17.6

+8.6

66%

Dialectician 67%

45.8 / 23.4

1 debate Neos

Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: To the unknown god. What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. Paul, on the Areopagus. Acts 17:22–23

Palaismata (kill shots)

The throws that ended an exchange: an argument turned, a question forced, a point settled, each one upheld by the bench as decisive.

1 of 4

“… if the son is not equal to the father because he doesn't spirate, then the spirit has to also spirate. But nobody teaches the the spirit spirates or generates a person. So by your own argument, you subordinated the spirit…”

— Jay DyerantistrephonThe Catholicism or Orthodoxy DEBATE: Tim… at 1:32:38

1 of 4

“But you say you know how females think though. You did say that.”

— KimberlyperitropeHEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro… at 2:59:03

1 of 4

“Same thing but flips for your end. No offense. Whatever you guys have is invisible.”

— IslaperitropeHEATED Debate w/ Feminists. Wage Gap, Pro… at 2:19:05

Skōmmata (zingers)

The most quotable gibes, and each one scored on the Sophist ledger. Sharp, and beside the point.

1 of 4

“I believe that God has confirmed and blessed the choice of those books.”

— Pastor Pbegging the questionJay Dyer vs Pastor P Debate Orthodoxy vs… at 44:31

1 of 4

“That's you you got the mindset of a woman. Women believe in intuition.”

— Cooleyad hominem@deanwithrs Gets DESTROYED In Heated Debate… at 23:32

1 of 4

“That's a p and also not p. You just contradicted yourself. That's what I said. We just didn't understand what I No. I did understand what you just said. You you just said that the laws of logic is conceptual.”

— Cooleymisrepresentation@deanwithrs Gets DESTROYED In Heated Debate… at 19:12

Stoa of fallacies (hall of fallacies)

Every fallacy the referee has caught across all debates, ranked by how often it turns up, with the worst example of each.

misrepresentation

1 of 60

“Jay refuses to condemn Thomas Aquinas as a pedophile. That's shocking. I hope all the Christian listeners, especially the Protestants listening, note that these heretics, Sam and Jay, are down with pedophilia.” — Daniel Haqiqatjou
Religion Debate: Islam vs Christianity, watch at 2:40:29. All 60 instances

ad hominem

1 of 49

“I don't call you, like, a basement dwelling retard that looks like you smell bad and you haven't taken a shower in a month. ... If you're gonna throw me your TV, you should take a shower, retard.” — Austin Peterson
Debate MELTDOWN: Worst Opponent Yet: Austin…, watch at 1:13:28. All 49 instances

straw man

1 of 24

“I don't care about your definition of power.” — Jake the Muslim Metaphysician
HEATED DEBATE: Jay Dyer Vs Jake Muslim…, watch at 1:27:50. All 24 instances

dodge

1 of 17

“No. I don't. Because I think that shit's boring, bro.” — Austin Peterson
Debate MELTDOWN: Worst Opponent Yet: Austin…, watch at 57:36. All 17 instances

self-contradiction

1 of 16

“I can't [can] be arbitrary when I wanna be arbitrary. I can't [can do] whatever the fuck. ... It's not a it's not a hard debate format, so I can do whatever I want.” — Austin Peterson
Debate MELTDOWN: Worst Opponent Yet: Austin…, watch at 1:00:26. All 16 instances

begging the question

1 of 14

“I believe that God has confirmed and blessed the choice of those books.” — Pastor P
Jay Dyer vs Pastor P Debate Orthodoxy vs…, watch at 44:31. All 14 instances

hasty generalisation

1 of 11

“… every Protestant does this gnostic anti matter [anti-material] reading into these texts. I know I used to be a Protestant.” — Jay Dyer
FULL SAVAGE DEBATE: Jay Dyer Vs Indiana…, watch at 33:47. All 11 instances

non sequitur

1 of 10

“That's not my position. When did I ever say that I'm an empiricist? Well, if you're a nominalist, you're an empiricist.” — Jay Dyer
HEATED DEBATE: Jay Dyer Vs Jake Muslim…, watch at 1:15:41. All 10 instances

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Bill: So-crates. The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
Ted: That's us, dude.
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, 1989

Elenchus

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Palaismata (kill shots)

Skōmmata (zingers)

Stoa of fallacies (hall of fallacies)

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